Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

the rock29 wrote: »

Sorry I also forgot to say can some reporter not put them on the spot and ask to explain why food pubs can open and wet pubs can't open and not back down exaplain to me like I am a child and not back down make show what fools there are people will open there eyes very quickly and protest

I’m not a reporter but it’s because people get less drunk when they are eating as well as drinking. When people get drunk, they become less inhibited and less likely to obey social distancing and other precautions.

This is the same reason people will only be allowed to stay in a restaurant or gastropub for a limited period of time.

The people to blame for this are the minority who cannot drink and behave responsibly at the same time. We all know these people, they are too self-centred to limit their alcohol intake and we all have to suffer because of it.

Licensed Vintners Association
Government can't hide behind NPHET when they decide to single out wet pubs
Government can’t hide behind NPHET now
Any decision to keep wet pubs closed while other parts of hospitality open will be political decision based on zero evidence made by FF, FG and Green Party
The Government can’t hide behind NPHET now and any move to separate out ‘wet’ pubs will be a political decision made by members of Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Green Party which is not backed up by any evidence, according to the Licensed Vintners Association (LVA).

Zero evidence exists that ‘wet’ pubs carry a greater risk than other hospitality venues such as restaurants or gastropubs. Any ‘risk’ is the same for all venues where alcohol is served, with zero distinction being made between these different types of outlets.

The same time limits apply in wet pubs, gastropubs and restaurants. The same social distancing requirements apply. Table service is also compulsory in all these venues.

The Gardaí also have the same powers to shut down on the spot any of these venues who are not complying with the regulations.

As Donall O’Keeffe, Chief Executive of the LVA says, the Government are now exposed if they choose to single out one part of the hospitality sector:

“The Government can’t hide behind NPHET now if they decide to single out the ‘wet’ pubs and keep them closed. It will now be quite clear this is a decision that is only being made by members of Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Green Party and they will have to own that decision. NPHET didn’t tell them that only the ‘wet’ pubs should be kept closed. There is no evidence which exists that ‘wet’ pubs pose a greater risk than restaurants or gastropubs. The same regulations and enforcements are in place for all these types of venue – the same social distancing and the same time limits. We welcome restaurants and gastropubs being allowed to trade, but if the Government allows them to open while keeping the wet pubs closed, it will be exposed as simply their political choice. And that is a choice the individual TDs in Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and the Green Party can expect to pay their own political price for,” Mr. O’Keeffe concluded.



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I am not sure if people have posted this already but looks like Dice bar in dublin is closed permanently.


I would have huge sympathy...but ....seeing some of their facebook posts comparing their plight to that of people being taken to concentration camps...yeah...feck em

Open the Pubs wrote: »

It was posted on Famous Dublin pubs that are no more thread, which will probably becoming more active

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115430118

I don't think I ever drank in it. The Globe Bar and Ri Ra are also gone to be replaced by....another hotel

I drink in it the odd time it is as a bit of a kip, but always sad to see a business close.

Another fecking hotel....great..

Leinster90 wrote: »

I’m not a reporter but it’s because people get less drunk when they are eating as well as drinking. When people get drunk, they become less inhibited and less likely to obey social distancing and other precautions.

This is the same reason people will only be allowed to stay in a restaurant or gastropub for a limited period of time.

The people to blame for this are the minority who cannot drink and behave responsibly at the same time. We all know these people, they are too self-centred to limit their alcohol intake and we all have to suffer because of it.

So because a minority can't drink responsibility, and a minority of the population are high-risk, the majority are made suffer either through lack of social interaction (a huge issue in rural Ireland and probably as dangerous to the elderly) or a loss of livelihood.

It's a warped way of handling things.

MrStuffins wrote: »

The weird thing is, these lads are going on like "People will have house parties anyway, so we should be allowed have a free for all in the pubs".

I might as well go rob a week's shop from my local Aldi. "Here, people are robbing stuff in loads of other shops, so I should be able to do it here".

Or perhaps, I like to beat my wife at home, why can't I hit her a rap in the pub, she'll only get it at home anyway.

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Most of the best pubs in Dublin are "wet pubs" that haven't even been allowed open since March. It could be next March for them! They probably got the rawest deal of all, totally discriminated against.

One stat I am trying to find is what proportion are owner-ran vs. tenanted (my wild guess is 30:70). The former will tend to re-open whereas the latter....

There was a big slip up in an RTE interview today. It showed the Palace bar and talked to an owner and a LVA rep. indoors They said that Gov should trust them.



Nobody shown was wearing a mask!

saabsaab wrote: »

There was a big slip up in an RTE interview today. It showed the Palace bar and talked to an owner and a LVA rep. indoors They said that Gov should trust them.



Nobody shown was wearing a mask!

Were they more than 2 metres away from each other?

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Maybe they weren't sick.

Maybe they were