General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

Father Hernandez wrote: »

I really don't understand how people can be so salty about United getting a legitimate penalty for them and a penalty against them correctly disallowed.

Conspiracy theories, "Keep Ole in the job", potential meltdowns, referee is a United fan.

Yes United were shyte, yes they won 1-0, yes they're nowhere near title contenders but folks get so worked up about hating United and go out of their way it's embarassing. It looks like they hate the club more than they actually follow the football. It's sad and I don't really get it, maybe just me. Appreciate it works other ways too.

Utd are a huge club with a huge fan base, of course they will be talked about more than other clubs. You have to admit the amount of pens they get is slightly on the high side.

I don't understand penalty calls like this how they ain't a foul

So say Fernandes gets a slight touch on the ball and kicks attacker

But Fernandes touch on ball isn't what loses possession for the attacker, it's the physical contact. I don't get how slightest of touch on the ball negates a foul in cases such as these

I think the defender should have to make sufficient contact with the ball and for that to be the reason attacker loses possession

Cases where defender grazes a stud on the ball and moves it a mm and gets away with foul makes no sense to me

niallo27 wrote: »

Utd are a huge club with a huge fan base, of course they will be talked about more than other clubs. You have to admit the amount of pens they get is slightly on the high side.

Completely get that but there's some amount of faux outrage because mostly it's United v Liverpool stuff that I don't get involved in myself, it's petty and as I said I don't get it, don't see what the point is.

United penalties awarded absolutely on the high side but is it down to dodgy reffing, attacking side who happen to be in the penalty box or conspiracy theories?

Leicester have had 8 penalties this season in 8 games but it's all about United? Look through the comments and you'll see it's all about United and folks getting upset.

The amount of players that tell the ref to go look at VAR is mad isn't that supposed to be a bookable offence?

I don't think I have seen one player booked for it.

Deleted User wrote: »

Like Man Utd fans who know their team has little to play for, so instead of enjoying wins they start railing against other fans who are enjoying their slide into mediocrity?

Don't be remotely embarrassed about the other fans, it's not sad at all, they're laughing. Loosen up, join the fun.

My point was that there are many United fans on Twitter or otherwise who will act the bóllox and look to wind up fans of other clubs. Similar to the salty fans on this thread earlier who are more ABU that anything.

United are in a horrible position no two ways about it, look into the United thread any day of the week and we're all on the same page pretty much. We know it's not where they want to be or nowhere near the SAF days.

I'm a football fan first and foremost like many on here and I have allegiances. I'll openly credit teams or players where they're playing well and they're entertaining whether deep down I like it or not.

My point is that you get salty 'fans' who look to derail threads with nonsense or trolling comments on a pretty much daily basis to make themselves feel superior rather than actually adding to the discussion, would that be fair?

MD1990 wrote: »

It is the inconsistency.
I felt the penalty for West Brom was a pen as Fernandes got the player first & not enough of the ball.

For example do you think Sheff Utd's penalty(Fabinho challenge) a few weeks was correct.

Everton game another joke too.

Ever since the Livarpool social media outrage after pens against Leicester & Spurs a year ago.

Bar the the disallowed Wolves goal for offside I cant think of Liverpool benefiting from VAR at all & so many calls going against Liverpool.

The positive out of the game tonight is surely Coote is gone from the League now & Ole getting more time.

Leicester to score a penalty at 6.00 tomorow looks a great bet.

I'd somewhat agree but felt it wasn't a penalty for WBA as Fernandes won the ball. But appreciate my bias might be to blame.

Fabinho challenge a couple weeks ago wasn't a peno, nor a free kick. Nonsense decision.

The Coote 'conspiracy' is a conspiracy I don't buy into, he's more than likely just not very good at his job?

I'm firmly in the Ole Out camp so not a big deal but agree that it's Leicester's to win. 14/5 Leicester to win but I wouldn't put money on it personally. Liverpool are in that winning mentality it wouldn't surprise me if they pulled it out of the bag.

Father Hernandez wrote: »

I'd somewhat agree but felt it wasn't a penalty for WBA as Fernandes won the ball. But appreciate my bias might be to blame.

Fabinho challenge a couple weeks ago wasn't a peno, nor a free kick. Nonsense decision.

The Coote 'conspiracy' is a conspiracy I don't buy into, he's more than likely just not very good at his job?

I'm firmly in the Ole Out camp so not a big deal but agree that it's Leicester's to win. 14/5 Leicester to win but I wouldn't put money on it personally. Liverpool are in that winning mentality it wouldn't surprise me if they pulled it out of the bag.

I dont think he is corrupt.

But he may have an unconscious bias towards Liverpool after Robertson & Klopp had a go at him after a bad game vs Burnley last season.

Anyway I think he is done as a PL ref now.

I really do think the PL need to look abroad for better officials

Coote isn't corrupt he's just useless.

Just seen the West Brom 'penalty', should never have been overturned, got very little of the ball if anything then made contact with the player.

Another weekend of var controversy with inept officials. Roll on tomorrow's craic.

monkey9 wrote: »

Just catching up with Match of the Day and was looking forward to seeing the controversial West Brom penalty because everyone was going on about it and i really don't get the controversy.

It's clearly not a penalty. Fernandez has won the ball. I completely understand the ref awarding the penalty as it looked like one in real time, but every replay shows Fernandez winning the ball. The ref has had the chance of seeing those replays for himself and has rightly overturned his decision.

VAR has worked a charm in the case, that's what it's there for.

Dunno what you are seeing. Ball has back spin from the West Brom players touch, ball is spinning, hits the ground , STOPS SPINNING and moved back a tad through the back spin motion.. Looks like a touch from Fern, but there wasn't one. He kicked him in the shin, as the ball hit the ground, it stopped spinning once it hit ground, but it looked like a touch as ball stopped spinning, and you read that as a touch.


Look at it again. Ferns kick is above the ball also, clearly not kicking it


https://twitter.com/ALBIONFANTV/status/1330256671185248256

Father Hernandez wrote: »

Leicester have had 8 penalties this season in 8 games but it's all about United? Look through the comments and you'll see it's all about United and folks getting upset.

It's funny you mention that.

There was a video clip of a Leicester fan on a radio station talking about how annoying the noise is about Liverpool Injuries in comparison to Leicesters.

I thought he was dead right and didn't even realize the amount of injuries they have

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Dunno what you are seeing. Ball has back spin from the West Brom players touch, ball is spinning, hits the ground , STOPS SPINNING and moved back a tad through the back spin motion.. Looks like a touch from Fern, but there wasn't one. He kicked him in the shin, as the ball hit the ground, it stopped spinning once it hit ground, but it looked like a touch as ball stopped spinning, and you read that as a touch.


Look at it again. Ferns kick is above the ball also, clearly not kicking it


https://twitter.com/ALBIONFANTV/status/1330256671185248256

Maybe i'm going mad, but that still looks like he's won ball. He's clearly got a touch on it.

monkey9 wrote: »

And to back up your point, I'm a Liverpool fan and i think Fernandez has got a touch on the ball all day long.

To be honest, this is one of those where the ref has a chance to look at the replays like the viewers and he's made the decision. Deal with it, that's what he's there for.

I can’t fully grasp the whole referee having to go to the monitor thing. If the guy in the booth isn’t willing to overrule the ref without him seeing it himself, then surely it isn’t clear and obvious?

If we’ve moved to re-refereeing the games for big decisions rather than only changing clear errors, that feels like something that should have been clearly clarified in advance, rather than randomly cropping up out of nowhere today in the Villa and United games.