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Why is it so complicated to daily find out the ages of those who passed?

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    #122
    lawred2
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    They asked Glynn about this already and he said he didn’t want to give out the information because it might send out the wrong message.

    He also said median age of deaths was late 80s.

    The wrong message being?

    I didn't realise nphet were empowered to massage and control any message!?


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    #123
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They asked Glynn about this already and he said he didn’t want to give out the information because it might send out the wrong message.

    He also said median age of deaths was late 80s.


    Code for "we know exactly how hard this country is going to party if we say every day that its largely over 70s passing away from this"


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    #124
    PowerToWait
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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Code for "we know exactly how hard this country is going to party if we say every day that its largely over 70s passing away from this"

    Yeah, fúck the over 70s. Smelly has beens. They had their fun, now it's our turn.

    YOLO.


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    #125
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    PowerToWait wrote: »
    Yeah, fúck the over 70s. Smelly has beens. They had their fun, now it's our turn.

    YOLO.


    That is not what I said, nor what I think



    It's what you chose to get angry about


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    #126
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    03-11-2020-p3.jpg


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    #127
    spookwoman
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    #128
    spookwoman
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    #129
    spookwoman
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    #130
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    cso updated. quick comparison to last one right column on date is increase

    1.jpg
    2.jpg


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    #131
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,496 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    I see a healthcare worker died in October. Surprised that wasn't reported? Or not to my knowledge anyway


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    #132
    CalamariFritti
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    They asked Glynn about this already and he said he didn’t want to give out the information because it might send out the wrong message.

    He also said median age of deaths was late 80s.

    Nphet, not just an advisory board to the government. But also the makers of lockdowns and guardians of this country's morality. Aren't we lucky to have them.


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    #133
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I see a healthcare worker died in October. Surprised that wasn't reported? Or not to my knowledge anyway

    Noticed that myself. Healthcare worker covers roles of
    Healthcare assistant
    Nurse
    Admin/Clerical worker
    Doctor
    Social Worker
    Catering/Kitchen worker
    Homecare
    Radiographer
    Cleaning/household
    Pharmacy worker
    Porter
    Paramedic/ambulance service
    Mental health
    Other

    List taken from hpsc report
    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-19casesinhealthcareworkers/HCW_report_12%2010%202020_0.1_web.pdf


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    #134
    ShineOn7
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    Laura on Reddit Ireland https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/jqcy9p/covid_19_deaths_in_october/

    I'll try paste the tables in tomorrow, they're not formatting properly here at the moment


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    #135
    bodhrandude
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    The report from Northern Ireland today was freaky, 10 deaths reported 8 of them occurring over the 24 hour period. Sounds like it could be a case of triage to me considering the state of the region at the moment.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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    #136
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    It still won't format for me in a table. Best I can do but hopefully you can read the data

    More here https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/

    October

    One unfortunate passing aged 25-34

    And another 8 people aged under 65


    Age Female Male Total

    15-24 0 0 0

    25-34 0 1 1

    35-44 0 0 0

    45-54 0 1 1

    55-64 1 6 7

    65-74 6 19 25

    75-84 16 20 36

    85+ 23 23 46

    Unknown <5 <5 2 [

    B]Total[/B]

    118


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    #137
    ShineOn7
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    Yikes @ the amount who sadly passed in today's numbers. That's the highest I can remember in a long time

    Yet again though, some clarity on ages and/or underlying symptoms from them should've been given


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    #138
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    The Health Protection Surveillance Centre has today been notified of 16 additional deaths related to COVID-19. Of the deaths reported today, 14 occurred in November, 1 in October and 1 remains under investigation.
    From yesterdays epi report
    10-11-2020-p3.jpg


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    #139
    ShineOn7
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    The CSO website was only previously updated with data upto October 14th, but has now been updated upto the end of October



    Too many tables to paste in here, there's mountains of data https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries15/


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    #140
    ShineOn7
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    It's not just data on mortalaties at the briefings that they're not forthcoming with



    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1328055653559132163


    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1328057071410024448


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    #141
    zerosugarbuzz
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    What is the most up to date yearly death toll for Ireland to date? Just wondering if it has balanced out somewhat since mid year.


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    #142
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    https://twitter.com/astaines/status/1329122147118292994




    Release the ages and/or under-lying conditions daily you scheming cowards

    We're 8 months into this and shouldn't be treated like kids anymore


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    #143
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Epi reports are down to 1 week now and missing loads

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/epidemiologyofcovid-19inirelandweeklyreports/COVID-19%20Weekly%20Report_%20Week%2046_HPSC_website.pdf


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    #144
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    107 backlog cases added today and the stat manipulation continues

    They must think we're all eejits


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    #145
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    107 backlog cases added today and the stat manipulation continues

    They must think we're all eejits

    If the testing process is now testing less and therefore on top of things why is there a backlog?


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    #146
    Dr. Greenthumb
    Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭Dr. Greenthumb


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Completely disagree with this. Its absolutely abhorrent to me that anyone would discuss what a life is worth or put a value on anyone's life based on their age.

    Is this not what the art of triage is about? So it happens quite regularly.


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    #147
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Seen via Norman in the main thread

    According to this, only 64 of Our current hospitalised cases came into Hospital with covid.

    The other 211 acquired it in hospital.

    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1330122887785828352


    How reliable is this Conor fella on Twitter?

    If the above is true then it only adds credence to them taking us for idiots

    You'll never get a journalist asking questions about the above at the briefings because they are as controlled as everything else going on with these figures

    Sound crazy? Then why does Zara "can we have weddings yet?" King usually get the first question?


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    #148
    Thierry12
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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Seen via Norman in the main thread



    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1330122887785828352


    How reliable is this Conor fella on Twitter?

    If the above is true then it only adds credence to them taking us for idiots

    You'll never get a journalist asking questions about the above at the briefings because they are as controlled as everything else going on with these figures

    Sound crazy? Then why does Zara "can we have weddings yet?" King usually get the first question?

    That's been the case from the very start

    26% of Covid cases were health care workers in April

    https://www.inmo.ie/Home/Index/217/13581#:~:text=Ireland%20faces%20one%20of%20the,cases%20are%20in%20healthcare%20workers.%E2%80%9D

    Walk into any hospital in Ireland right now and they'll put that RTE photo controversy to shame

    Coffees together on breaks, eating in canteens, maskless in corridors talking

    Its like they don't realise virus is airborne


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    #149
    normanoffside
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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    How reliable is this Conor fella on Twitter?

    This is what i would like to know.
    In all areas his stats seems well worked out and he doesn't seem to have any agendas.

    I'd like to know if this figure is true.
    It would simply take a journalist to put the question to NPHET at one of the press conferences and we would find out if it's right or not.

    He's been putting these stats out for months now and sadly none of the journalists has every picked up on any of the obvious questions much less asked them.

    George Lee last Thursday was positively excited about the graph showing a marginally higher rate of close contacts per infected person over the last week. Clearly it never dawned to ask how many contacts an average Healthcare worker has given so many of them were infected last week in hospital outbreaks...


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    #150
    ShineOn7
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    Thierry12 wrote: »
    That's been the case from the very start

    26% of Covid cases were health care workers in April


    Now at about 1 in every 6 though

    Let's not get as bad as the "government" in using the stats to suit ourselves ;)


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    #151
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    That Conor lad on Twitter's bio

    Financial Supply Chain Process Leader/ Process Mining /Chemical Engineer. Walker, Runner, Skier.


    Nothing Medical in there

    Perhaps his number crunching needs to be looked into more before we say it's gospel?

    Rule number one of all stats: check your sources


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