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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #6242
    agoodpunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭agoodpunt


    nphet have a lock down following the sort that do not go to pubs and are comfortable with the quite life those who dont will party xxxxxxxxxxxxmas


  • #6243
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Might be an idea for the mods to open an "I hate NPHET and it's all their fault" Thread, because this thread is just about that now.


  • #6244
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    aziz wrote: »
    fixed that for you
    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Regardless of NPHET's motives, you're naive if you think they aren't influenced heavily by the government and the HSE to message things in whatever way suits them.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ahoy captain, deflection over there.

    No mention of hundreds of thousands of people forced out of work? Retail and hospitality sectors on their knees? Gross mismanagement of nursing homes and hospitals leading to numerous clusters? I thought not.
    niallo27 wrote: »
    You do know nphet is made up largely of members of the HSE, the same HSE who according to people on here are in charge of the most dysfunctional health service in all of Europe despite being well funded, we keep hearing we need the harshest lockdown as we have the worst health system in Europe. So should we trust people that have failed us over and over again blindly or should we question them.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Spoken as though Covid is the only issue in society...
    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Exactly. Screw the unemployed and all the businesses that’ll never open again.

    It’s all political now and hence the unrest within government over NPHET and other ‘experts’ like mcdonkey who are pulling fear inducing figures from there holes!!

    i think you're in the wrong thread guys.


  • #6245
    SecretsOfEarth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭SecretsOfEarth


    Verona Murphy undermining her argument on Prime Time with the argument that "NPHET predicted x amount of deaths and it didn't happen!!! People don't believe them!"

    Why do people fail to understand (or wilfully ignore) the fact that these predictions are based on nothing being done?


  • #6246
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-could-have-2-coronavirus-vaccines-in-december-says-von-der-leyen/

    Jesus if Tony sees this he’ll go into hiding!


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  • #6247
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Aoife McLysaght is a gowl!! Wants level 5 until we get to single digits and screw the unemployment

    She actually said (and I had to rewind back just be sure)
    we will never see our pubs and restaurants open again, if we open retail now


  • #6248
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Might be an idea for the mods to open an "I hate NPHET and it's all their fault" Thread, because this thread is just about that now.

    Or open up a I love Tony and thou shalt not ever question nphet for yourself.


  • #6249
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,216 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ahoy captain, deflection over there.

    No mention of hundreds of thousands of people forced out of work? Retail and hospitality sectors on their knees? Gross mismanagement of nursing homes and hospitals leading to numerous clusters? I thought not.

    The only thing, though, that is going to get retail and hospitality back on their feet is getting the virus under control.


  • #6250
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Might be an idea for the mods to open an "I hate NPHET and it's all their fault" Thread, because this thread is just about that now.

    It’s not hating NPHET it’s the way they’re going about this.
    The language they’re using etc. We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...


  • #6251
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    froog wrote: »
    i think you're in the wrong thread guys.

    What's your problem?


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  • #6252
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    froog wrote: »
    i think you're in the wrong thread guys.

    Your some man for deflecting questions, might be a job in the HSE at the end of all this for you.


  • #6253
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Arghus wrote: »
    The only thing, though, that is going to get retail and hospitality back on their feet is getting the virus under control.

    Hospitality yes obviously but no reason retail can't get back on their feet and keep this virus under control.


  • #6254
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,216 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    It’s not hating NPHET it’s the way they’re going about this.
    The language they’re using etc. We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...

    How would you prefer them to deliver the message?


  • #6255
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Jesus if Tony sees this he’ll go into hiding!

    Not if he reads beyond the headline. The full interview matches his view on vaccine availability.


  • #6256
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Tony’s going to be calling the numbers next week wearing a fur coat,after they gas all the minks he gave the death sentence to.
    Waste not want not and all that


  • #6257
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    ...We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...

    Do you really think some of the actions of adults in the past few weeks were the right thing to do? Lord help us if it was.


  • #6258
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    What’s the story Bertie.
    Did you back the Percy today in thurles.
    GO ON THE PERCY


  • #6259
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭Russman


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Regardless of NPHET's motives, you're naive if you think they aren't influenced heavily by the government and the HSE to message things in whatever way suits them.

    C’mon, do you really think any of this suits anyone ? It’s sh1t for everyone, some way more than others but it’s not like it’s contrived. There’s no objectively “fair” way to manage this.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ahoy captain, deflection over there.

    No mention of hundreds of thousands of people forced out of work? Retail and hospitality sectors on their knees? Gross mismanagement of nursing homes and hospitals leading to numerous clusters? I thought not.

    I think everyone is well aware of the hundreds of thousands out of jobs and sympathises massively with them. They should absolutely be given every support possible by government and importantly the banks. Yes, hospitality has taken the brunt but it’s the only way of dealing with this thing because we’d never accept the kind of monitoring they have in the Far East if we went with their models. No one is ordering businesses to shut for sh1ts and giggles. It’s economy Vs health and health is winning, rightly or wrongly.


  • #6260
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    It’s not hating NPHET it’s the way they’re going about this.
    The language they’re using etc. We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...

    Every wonder why there are warning labels on items, like the warning Contents are Hot on the disposable cups you get your coffee or hot drink in or washing liquid pods are not for consumption. Might like common sense but there are plenty of idiots out there in the world that need things spelled out to them.


  • #6261
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    marno21 wrote: »
    I am beyond caring about what NPHET are saying or the soul destroying discourse about restrictions and what not.

    What I want to hear now is how this country is gearing up for the massive vaccination challenge ahead. The vaccine debate now has to move onto deployment with the positive news from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna this week. It is coming and we need to be ready for it. The general public are sick to shít of this and just want it over. The vaccine will finish this period of ****e off for once and for all.

    Getting this right is beyond important. Every day in this mess we have people unemployed, locked in their houses, losing the run of themselves. We will very soon have the weapon to end this, and focus needs to completely switch to how they can to this without ****ing it up. Every day in this purgatory is a step closer to the end but the country can end this quicker by doing this successfully.

    There's a lot coming out from countries such as the US and UK about how they will pull this off but unfortunately not too much from Ireland. Which is worrying because a lot of people in the country laugh at those two countries being run by imbeciles but they seem awake and tuned in to the sound of the oncoming vaccine train.

    Exactly. The seeds of damage were sown in March, in my opinion unavoidable, but every single day we are in this situation we are causing more damage, as businesses and people are stretched to their limit. There is another side to the coin, whereby the sooner we get out, the quicker our recovery will be.

    There’s a tsunami of issues headed towards us from physical and mental health issues, economic issues, we’ll be hearing about it for years to come. Tribunals, scandals, etc, all to look forward to.

    While a vaccine won’t eliminate covid instantly, any sort of confidence booster for the public, and business sectors such as retail and travel, will do wonders.

    At this point it’s about damage limitation. I understand prudence in talking about or putting an over reliance on vaccines during briefings, but they’d want to be doing some serious planning in the background.

    I would hope they will consider, or are considering, support from outside the HSE with regards to innovative planning around vaccine distribution.


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  • #6262
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Arghus wrote: »
    How would you prefer them to deliver the message?

    A positive message? You know something like to boost morale within the country but they don’t seem to be capable of that. I’ll go back to late June when we had 3/4 cases a day and no deaths but they were still very concerned. No wonder people switched off


  • #6263
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,587 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The government must be loving that NPHET are taking all the flack for their decisions and their leaks to the press.

    Unbelievable how an advisory group are the bad guys.


  • #6264
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    eagle eye wrote: »
    The government must be loving that NPHET are taking all the flack for their decisions and their leaks to the press.

    Unbelievable how an advisory group are the bad guys.

    They certainly don’t help themselves going on radio telling people ye are being very bold and lockdown will need to continue. I posted Dr Mary Faviers interview on morning ireland on Tuesday. It was a disgrace the way she spoke.


  • #6265
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Interesting from FG...

    https://twitter.com/MurphyEoghan/status/1329529739770535939


  • #6266
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    They certainly don’t help themselves going on radio telling people ye are being very bold and lockdown will need to continue. I posted Dr Mary Faviers interview on morning ireland on Tuesday. It was a disgrace the way she spoke.

    Not for the first time. I think this level 5 circuit breaker was a good idea but the messaging is all over the place.


  • #6267
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Handed in my last docket years ago. That McDonkey is a lame one, isn't he. Who would ever dream of backing him, except the perennial losers that are RTÉ.




    He ran a blinder today lad.Elliot has him on track for cheltenham


  • #6268
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,488 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The medical dictatorship in Ireland is getting some hammering on the radio and TV lately. The tide certainly is turning against NPHET.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #6269
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Sure here are some:
    1. Close your business indefinitely and we won’t give you any idea whatsoever when you can reopen so you can be totally unprepared when we drop the bomb at the 11th hour. Or better still, you won’t be able to reopen at all as we’ll make sure these lockdowns keep rolling on with no alternative plan.

    I'm not an angry man myself, so no comment on the rest of the points, but the opening/closing businesses point is definitely something I'd completely agree with. It hasn't been handled well at all.


  • #6270
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Tony’s going to be calling the numbers next week wearing a fur coat,after they gas all the minks he gave the death sentence to.
    Waste not want not and all that

    They'll be able to keep all the windows open.


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  • #6271
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    The medical dictatorship in Ireland is getting some hammering on the radio and TV lately. The tide certainly is turning against NPHET.

    You could sense that a small bit with Miriam on prime time. She wasn’t letting the very forceful Aoife McLysaght speak over your man(can’t think of his name) she was on his side about letting retail trade open. I think Kieran Cuddihy on newstalk is probably the most balanced and talks the most sense about the situation as did Ivan Yates when he was on air love him or hate him!


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