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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #6252
    Cork2021
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ahoy captain, deflection over there.

    No mention of hundreds of thousands of people forced out of work? Retail and hospitality sectors on their knees? Gross mismanagement of nursing homes and hospitals leading to numerous clusters? I thought not.

    Exactly. Screw the unemployed and all the businesses that’ll never open again.

    It’s all political now and hence the unrest within government over NPHET and other ‘experts’ like mcdonkey who are pulling fear inducing figures from there holes!!


  • #6253
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-could-have-2-coronavirus-vaccines-in-december-says-von-der-leyen/


  • #6254
    agoodpunt
    Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭agoodpunt


    nphet have a lock down following the sort that do not go to pubs and are comfortable with the quite life those who dont will party xxxxxxxxxxxxmas


  • #6255
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,988 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Might be an idea for the mods to open an "I hate NPHET and it's all their fault" Thread, because this thread is just about that now.


  • #6256
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    aziz wrote: »
    fixed that for you
    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Regardless of NPHET's motives, you're naive if you think they aren't influenced heavily by the government and the HSE to message things in whatever way suits them.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ahoy captain, deflection over there.

    No mention of hundreds of thousands of people forced out of work? Retail and hospitality sectors on their knees? Gross mismanagement of nursing homes and hospitals leading to numerous clusters? I thought not.
    niallo27 wrote: »
    You do know nphet is made up largely of members of the HSE, the same HSE who according to people on here are in charge of the most dysfunctional health service in all of Europe despite being well funded, we keep hearing we need the harshest lockdown as we have the worst health system in Europe. So should we trust people that have failed us over and over again blindly or should we question them.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Spoken as though Covid is the only issue in society...
    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Exactly. Screw the unemployed and all the businesses that’ll never open again.

    It’s all political now and hence the unrest within government over NPHET and other ‘experts’ like mcdonkey who are pulling fear inducing figures from there holes!!

    i think you're in the wrong thread guys.


  • #6257
    SecretsOfEarth
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭SecretsOfEarth


    Verona Murphy undermining her argument on Prime Time with the argument that "NPHET predicted x amount of deaths and it didn't happen!!! People don't believe them!"

    Why do people fail to understand (or wilfully ignore) the fact that these predictions are based on nothing being done?


  • #6258
    Cork2021
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-could-have-2-coronavirus-vaccines-in-december-says-von-der-leyen/

    Jesus if Tony sees this he’ll go into hiding!


  • #6259
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,483 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Aoife McLysaght is a gowl!! Wants level 5 until we get to single digits and screw the unemployment

    She actually said (and I had to rewind back just be sure)
    we will never see our pubs and restaurants open again, if we open retail now


  • #6260
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,066 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Might be an idea for the mods to open an "I hate NPHET and it's all their fault" Thread, because this thread is just about that now.

    Or open up a I love Tony and thou shalt not ever question nphet for yourself.


  • #6261
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,744 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ahoy captain, deflection over there.

    No mention of hundreds of thousands of people forced out of work? Retail and hospitality sectors on their knees? Gross mismanagement of nursing homes and hospitals leading to numerous clusters? I thought not.

    The only thing, though, that is going to get retail and hospitality back on their feet is getting the virus under control.


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  • #6262
    Cork2021
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Might be an idea for the mods to open an "I hate NPHET and it's all their fault" Thread, because this thread is just about that now.

    It’s not hating NPHET it’s the way they’re going about this.
    The language they’re using etc. We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...


  • #6263
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    froog wrote: »
    i think you're in the wrong thread guys.

    What's your problem?


  • #6264
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,066 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    froog wrote: »
    i think you're in the wrong thread guys.

    Your some man for deflecting questions, might be a job in the HSE at the end of all this for you.


  • #6265
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,066 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Arghus wrote: »
    The only thing, though, that is going to get retail and hospitality back on their feet is getting the virus under control.

    Hospitality yes obviously but no reason retail can't get back on their feet and keep this virus under control.


  • #6266
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,744 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    It’s not hating NPHET it’s the way they’re going about this.
    The language they’re using etc. We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...

    How would you prefer them to deliver the message?


  • #6267
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    Jesus if Tony sees this he’ll go into hiding!

    Not if he reads beyond the headline. The full interview matches his view on vaccine availability.


  • #6268
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Tony’s going to be calling the numbers next week wearing a fur coat,after they gas all the minks he gave the death sentence to.
    Waste not want not and all that


  • #6269
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    ...We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...

    Do you really think some of the actions of adults in the past few weeks were the right thing to do? Lord help us if it was.


  • #6270
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    What’s the story Bertie.
    Did you back the Percy today in thurles.
    GO ON THE PERCY


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  • #6271
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭Russman


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Regardless of NPHET's motives, you're naive if you think they aren't influenced heavily by the government and the HSE to message things in whatever way suits them.

    C’mon, do you really think any of this suits anyone ? It’s sh1t for everyone, some way more than others but it’s not like it’s contrived. There’s no objectively “fair” way to manage this.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ahoy captain, deflection over there.

    No mention of hundreds of thousands of people forced out of work? Retail and hospitality sectors on their knees? Gross mismanagement of nursing homes and hospitals leading to numerous clusters? I thought not.

    I think everyone is well aware of the hundreds of thousands out of jobs and sympathises massively with them. They should absolutely be given every support possible by government and importantly the banks. Yes, hospitality has taken the brunt but it’s the only way of dealing with this thing because we’d never accept the kind of monitoring they have in the Far East if we went with their models. No one is ordering businesses to shut for sh1ts and giggles. It’s economy Vs health and health is winning, rightly or wrongly.


  • #6272
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,988 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    It’s not hating NPHET it’s the way they’re going about this.
    The language they’re using etc. We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...

    Every wonder why there are warning labels on items, like the warning Contents are Hot on the disposable cups you get your coffee or hot drink in or washing liquid pods are not for consumption. Might like common sense but there are plenty of idiots out there in the world that need things spelled out to them.


  • #6273
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    marno21 wrote: »
    I am beyond caring about what NPHET are saying or the soul destroying discourse about restrictions and what not.

    What I want to hear now is how this country is gearing up for the massive vaccination challenge ahead. The vaccine debate now has to move onto deployment with the positive news from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna this week. It is coming and we need to be ready for it. The general public are sick to shít of this and just want it over. The vaccine will finish this period of ****e off for once and for all.

    Getting this right is beyond important. Every day in this mess we have people unemployed, locked in their houses, losing the run of themselves. We will very soon have the weapon to end this, and focus needs to completely switch to how they can to this without ****ing it up. Every day in this purgatory is a step closer to the end but the country can end this quicker by doing this successfully.

    There's a lot coming out from countries such as the US and UK about how they will pull this off but unfortunately not too much from Ireland. Which is worrying because a lot of people in the country laugh at those two countries being run by imbeciles but they seem awake and tuned in to the sound of the oncoming vaccine train.

    Exactly. The seeds of damage were sown in March, in my opinion unavoidable, but every single day we are in this situation we are causing more damage, as businesses and people are stretched to their limit. There is another side to the coin, whereby the sooner we get out, the quicker our recovery will be.

    There’s a tsunami of issues headed towards us from physical and mental health issues, economic issues, we’ll be hearing about it for years to come. Tribunals, scandals, etc, all to look forward to.

    While a vaccine won’t eliminate covid instantly, any sort of confidence booster for the public, and business sectors such as retail and travel, will do wonders.

    At this point it’s about damage limitation. I understand prudence in talking about or putting an over reliance on vaccines during briefings, but they’d want to be doing some serious planning in the background.

    I would hope they will consider, or are considering, support from outside the HSE with regards to innovative planning around vaccine distribution.


  • #6274
    Cork2021
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Arghus wrote: »
    How would you prefer them to deliver the message?

    A positive message? You know something like to boost morale within the country but they don’t seem to be capable of that. I’ll go back to late June when we had 3/4 cases a day and no deaths but they were still very concerned. No wonder people switched off


  • #6275
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,160 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The government must be loving that NPHET are taking all the flack for their decisions and their leaks to the press.

    Unbelievable how an advisory group are the bad guys.


  • #6276
    Cork2021
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    eagle eye wrote: »
    The government must be loving that NPHET are taking all the flack for their decisions and their leaks to the press.

    Unbelievable how an advisory group are the bad guys.

    They certainly don’t help themselves going on radio telling people ye are being very bold and lockdown will need to continue. I posted Dr Mary Faviers interview on morning ireland on Tuesday. It was a disgrace the way she spoke.


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  • #6277
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Interesting from FG...

    https://twitter.com/MurphyEoghan/status/1329529739770535939


  • #6278
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    They certainly don’t help themselves going on radio telling people ye are being very bold and lockdown will need to continue. I posted Dr Mary Faviers interview on morning ireland on Tuesday. It was a disgrace the way she spoke.

    Not for the first time. I think this level 5 circuit breaker was a good idea but the messaging is all over the place.


  • #6279
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Handed in my last docket years ago. That McDonkey is a lame one, isn't he. Who would ever dream of backing him, except the perennial losers that are RTÉ.




    He ran a blinder today lad.Elliot has him on track for cheltenham


  • #6280
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,006 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The medical dictatorship in Ireland is getting some hammering on the radio and TV lately. The tide certainly is turning against NPHET.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #6281
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭Polar101


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Sure here are some:
    1. Close your business indefinitely and we won’t give you any idea whatsoever when you can reopen so you can be totally unprepared when we drop the bomb at the 11th hour. Or better still, you won’t be able to reopen at all as we’ll make sure these lockdowns keep rolling on with no alternative plan.

    I'm not an angry man myself, so no comment on the rest of the points, but the opening/closing businesses point is definitely something I'd completely agree with. It hasn't been handled well at all.


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  • #6282
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Tony’s going to be calling the numbers next week wearing a fur coat,after they gas all the minks he gave the death sentence to.
    Waste not want not and all that

    They'll be able to keep all the windows open.


  • #6283
    Cork2021
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    The medical dictatorship in Ireland is getting some hammering on the radio and TV lately. The tide certainly is turning against NPHET.

    You could sense that a small bit with Miriam on prime time. She wasn’t letting the very forceful Aoife McLysaght speak over your man(can’t think of his name) she was on his side about letting retail trade open. I think Kieran Cuddihy on newstalk is probably the most balanced and talks the most sense about the situation as did Ivan Yates when he was on air love him or hate him!


  • #6284
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,160 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote:
    The medical dictatorship in Ireland is getting some hammering on the radio and TV lately. The tide certainly is turning against NPHET.
    It's people who haven't any foresight who are against them. I'm happy to live safely until we have a vaccine and can get back to a real normal.


  • #6285
    gipi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭gipi


    Another hospital confirms an outbreak - Loughlinstown, South Dublin

    Asymptomatic patient on a ward developed symptoms, tested positive and over 20 patients are now positive.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/more-than-20-patients-in-south-dublin-hospital-test-positive-for-covid-19-1.4414171


  • #6286
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,744 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    A positive message? You know something like to boost morale within the country but they don’t seem to be capable of that. I’ll go back to late June when we had 3/4 cases a day and no deaths but they were still very concerned. No wonder people switched off

    But the thing is they do say positive things in the briefings. Professor Nolan was pointing out that while the numbers have stalled that, relative to where we were, that's an amazing achievement and indicates a huge effort and sacrifice.

    Tony Holohan talked at length about how were one of the best performing countries in Europe in terms of incidence of the virus and once acknowledged that it was down to huge public effort. They do thank the public and acknowledge the efforts A LOT. Seriously, next time look out for it - you'll be surprised.

    Both of them were insistent that we can reduce the incidence further with sustained efforts over the next two weeks - at no time did they paint a negative outcome as a foregone conclusion.

    A morale boost? A morale boost was surely saying to people, come on, we need to redouble our efforts and try to bring this thing down to a manageable and sustainable level for December - they've always led with the message that this can be achieved by people being proactive and they've never been fatalistic in their message about this.

    What else can they say? Relax lads, we're doing well, everybody forget about restrictions? Is that what people want to hear - great, but it isn't true. They simply have to keep on message about sticking to the advice.

    Okay, I'll admit that the pressers aren't laugh a minute and there are a lot of sentences prefaced with the words "Don't", "Can't" or "Shouldn't" - but there's always nuance and praise, alongside the advice, in what they say.


  • #6287
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭Polar101


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Interesting from FG...

    Interesting, it's good to have debate on possible actions on how to manage this pandemic.

    But I do find it disingenuous when FG acts like they are the opposition.


  • #6288
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,483 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Arghus wrote: »
    But the thing is they do say positive things in the briefings. Professor Nolan was pointing out that while the numbers have stalled that, relative to where we were, that's an amazing achievement and indicates a huge effort and sacrifice.

    Tony Holohan talked at length about how were one of the best performing countries in Europe in terms of incidence of the virus and once acknowledged that it was down to huge public effort. They do thank the public and acknowledge the efforts A LOT. Seriously, next time look out for it - you'll be surprised.

    Both of them were insistent that we can reduce the incidence further with sustained efforts over the next two weeks - at no time did they paint a negative outcome as a foregone conclusion.

    A morale boost? A morale boost was surely saying to people, come on, we need to redouble our efforts and try to bring this thing down to a manageable and sustainable level for December - they've always led with the message that this can be achieved by people being proactive and they've never been fatalistic in their message about this.

    What else can they say? Relax lads, we're doing well, everybody forget about restrictions? Is that what people want to hear - great, but it isn't true. They simply have to keep on message about sticking to the advice.

    Okay, I'll admit that the pressers aren't laugh a minute and there are a lot of sentences prefaced with the words "Don't", "Can't" or "Shouldn't" - but there's always nuance and praise, alongside the advice, in what they say.

    How is it an amazing achievement to reduce case numbers in a Level 5 lockdown?


  • #6289
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    A positive message? You know something like to boost morale within the country but they don’t seem to be capable of that. I’ll go back to late June when we had 3/4 cases a day and no deaths but they were still very concerned. No wonder people switched off

    I don't know if the message is the issue - it's just that a lot of people don't want to listen to authorities. It's the same with people we don't like - because by default we take a dislike to them, if they say or do something even a little negative we focus on that.

    I'm not a communications expert, so I wouldn't know how to present what NPHET is trying to communicate in a way that would make people listen to them, or in a way that would stop offending people - because clearly a lot of people are offended by anything they say. Just to exaggerate a little, anything dr Holohan or dr Nolan says will offend someone enough that they'll post about it in this thread.

    I take it "positive message" doesn't mean something like "today's best county is again Longford, only 2 cases - well done Longford. Keep it up!" - at least I won't need that kind of stuff. Just wondering what it is that is missing? Or is it just that they're not saying "that's it, we're done with restrictions now"?


  • #6290
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    I know it's an incredibly childish reaction, literally the definition of petulance and immature lashing out, and it's probably just because he's the visible public face of the whole thing but..

    I'd really like to do a big open hand slap down on top of Tony holohans stupid bald head. Not even particularly hard, and it would be a mostly comedic moment.

    Just can't wait to not have to see his sour face on every bit of media.


  • #6291
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,879 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Will Yam wrote: »
    What nphet (nor anyone else) has satisfactorily explained is why the numbers upturned after 4 weeks of decline.

    We have been told that when the R number is below 1 it reduces the spread of the virus. It came down, significantly, to somewhere in the region of 0.5 or 0.6.

    So if the R number goes down why do the numbers go up?

    Something doesn’t add up here.
    Asymptomatic cases that haven't been counted in the numbers as they haven't been tested but have unfortunately been spreading.
    That's the most obvious answer but there are plenty other caveats/variables involved.


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  • #6292
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,280 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Might be an idea for the mods to open an "I hate NPHET and it's all their fault" Thread, because this thread is just about that now.

    There is a thread centered on NPHET already

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058110181

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



  • #6293
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,744 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    robbiezero wrote: »
    How is it an amazing achievement to reduce case numbers in a Level 5 lockdown?

    Well we're in a level 5 lockdown now and the numbers have levelled off, so it isn't a foregone conclusion that numbers will fall away to nothing even at level 5 - you still need a basic buy in from people limiting their contacts etc, etc and that's what Nolan was acknowledging, to go from 1200 cases a day to 400, is, regardless of the level of lockdown, built on people making individual decisions to do the right thing to try to contain the virus - and that does involve sacrifice. He acknowledged that.


  • #6294
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Heavily front loaded with the death rate with Covid ..

    Fact is the IFR is rapidly decreasing and verging toward flu - new paper was stating around 0.14% IFR for CV19 - flu is ~0.1% .. other papers are showing around 0.2% ... Covid is more dangerous - but not as more as originally thought.

    Facts are flu is MORE dangerous for kids then covid - check the numbers.
    About the same for young healthy adults and a lot worse for older compromised people - and these accounts for vast majority of deaths...

    I know that dissapoints people like you, but these are the facts!!

    FFS, that is exactly what I am talking about. :confused:
    2000 US citizens are going to be dead in 24 hours today from COVID19. So are you saying there is going to be a similar number of deaths from flu today in the US because of this "vergency"?


  • #6295
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,879 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    It’s not hating NPHET it’s the way they’re going about this.
    The language they’re using etc. We are adults and will do what is right but they’ll keep harping on about how concerned they are and we need to do better...

    Unfortunately you just need to read a few threads on here to see that it is very difficult to keep everyone focused and/or caring.


  • #6296
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Some people really need to grow up and be mature and patient.

    Nphet are advising Gov, so Gov are taking their advice. Bring your anger back to Gov now.

    But it’s really not worth it anymore, the myriad of vaccines is trundling towards us. Might not be tomorrow. But it is giving people a lot of hope.

    Bide your time, be the adult in the room and look forward to a Covid free future.


  • #6297
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,702 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Polar101 wrote: »
    I don't know if the message is the issue - it's just that a lot of people don't want to listen to authorities. It's the same with people we don't like - because by default we take a dislike to them, if they say or do something even a little negative we focus on that.

    I'm not a communications expert, so I wouldn't know how to present what NPHET is trying to communicate in a way that would make people listen to them, or in a way that would stop offending people - because clearly a lot of people are offended by anything they say. Just to exaggerate a little, anything dr Holohan or dr Nolan says will offend someone enough that they'll post about it in this thread.

    I take it "positive message" doesn't mean something like "today's best county is again Longford, only 2 cases - well done Longford. Keep it up!" - at least I won't need that kind of stuff. Just wondering what it is that is missing? Or is it just that they're not saying "that's it, we're done with restrictions now"?

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1329496235431129094?s=09

    This is a perfect example of my issue with Tony Holahan and his messaging.
    We have health care, schools, construction, manufacturing, some retail and a limited public transport. Yet he is blaming busy roads as proof that we're not doing our bit.
    He just fires out remarks without realising that there are plenty of people who have genuine reasons to be doing whatever his latest gripe is.
    All that does is alienate your audience and people just loose interest in what he has to say.


  • #6298
    Whitters22
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Whitters22


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Or open up a I love Tony and thou shalt not ever question nphet for yourself.

    .


  • #6299
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    gipi wrote: »
    Another hospital confirms an outbreak - Loughlinstown, South Dublin

    Asymptomatic patient on a ward developed symptoms, tested positive and over 20 patients are now positive.


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/more-than-20-patients-in-south-dublin-hospital-test-positive-for-covid-19-1.4414171

    Those hospitals are bringing the country to it's knees, absolute scandal

    What the hell are they doing in there?

    12,000 cases out of 70,000 Covid cases in Ireland are health care workers

    In that article it says health care workers are self isolating over that patient.

    Why are they self isolating?

    Are they not wearing PPE all day?

    PPE not fit for purpose?

    Or are those eejits having chats to each other and socialising on site in the hospital's with no PPE?

    If a health care worker is getting Covid at work they should be disciplined, simple as

    If PPE works, no excuse for catching it at work.


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    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,879 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    prunudo wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1329496235431129094?s=09

    This is a perfect example of my issue with Tony Holahan and his messaging.
    We have health care, schools, construction, manufacturing, some retail and a limited public transport. Yet he is blaming busy roads as proof that we're not doing our bit.
    He just fires out remarks without realising that there are plenty of people who have genuine reasons to be doing whatever his latest gripe is.
    All that does is alienate your audience and people just loose interest in what he has to say.

    He made a complete hames of this....totally agree.


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  • #6301
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    What do people want? A pat on the head? A lollipop maybe? NPHET are not your parents, they give data and public health recommendations during a global pandemic that is killing 5000+ people a day.


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