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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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    #6122
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    The journos are all rimming Hoolihan and Co because they want to ghost write his inevitable book which will be on the shelves next Christmas.

    Specially selected Book stores will of course be exempt from restrictions.

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    #6123
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Arghus wrote: »
    She wasn't even a journalist. The paper she said she was from didn't exist - she's from a family of fundamentalist Christian nutters that are always on the receiving end of persecution that requires media attention.

    Yeah thats what I'm saying, probably a bit more stringent who gets in after that


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    #6124
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,135 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Stheno wrote: »
    Data from the HSE earlier on hospital ACQUIRED infections, up 160% the first week of this month alone



    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/a-further-four-deaths-from-covid-19-and-429-new-cases-recorded-1.4413946

    At least somebody is actually putting in print where the issues are even if nphet won't acknowledge it.


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    #6125
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    UHL group had said it was 221 total between cases and those isolating

    Ah ok, if it was 221 confirmed it would be massive negligence.


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    #6126
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    George Lee is a grovelling cretin. Stealing a living.


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    #6127
    Stheno
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Did someone post here last night about an outbreak in Vincents ? I remember seeing something about it.

    Anyway just heard a family member went in today for a consultants visit, the family member was wearing their mask, the consultant wasn't, even said you can take your mask off if you want while they were in the office.

    Unbelievable

    From the article I linked up above
    Some 65 per cent of the hospitalised cases are spread across seven hospitals — Letterkenny, University Hospital Limerick, Tallaght, St James’s, St Vincents, Drogheda and Beaumont — all of which have outbreaks to “various different degrees”.


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    #6128
    MOR316
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    Gotten to a point where health is my 2nd priority now.

    My number one priority now is getting that insect, George Lee, off the TV


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    #6129
    davemckenna25
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes there is, by yesterday evening 221 healthcare workers in University Hospital Limerick were identified as having Covid. All originating from a single cluster. Why the journalists present won't address this beggars belief.

    I do believe its 221 are off work due to covid19. Some are off due to testing positive and some are off due to be deemed close contacts. Not 221 positive cases in staff.
    Lets stick to the facts.


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    #6130
    mloc123
    Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Deleted User wrote: »
    George Lee is a grovelling cretin. Stealing a living.

    Remember when he went into politics... for 6 months


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    #6131
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭Allinall


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    George Lee is a grovelling cretin. Stealing a living.

    Everyone is stealing a living, according to boards.


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    #6132
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Yeah thats what I'm saying, probably a bit more stringent who gets in after that

    It's the only gig in town at the moment. The tickets must be like gold dust.

    Seriously though there is a conflict of interest in terms of the HSE representation on NPHET. They won't be going out of their way to draw attention to hospitals. Dr Tony mentioned that people were going to work while ill in healthcare settings when they were clearly not well.

    That's a bit of a deflection. I'm sure you do get people like that but outbreaks on wards are only sourced from this. HSE is not an organisation known for rewarding whistleblowers.

    Edit: Having read the Irish times article posted below they are acknowledging it and trying to fix it.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/a-further-four-deaths-from-covid-19-and-429-new-cases-recorded-1.4413946
    Earlier, new figures from the HSE were presented which showed hospital-acquired cases of Covid-19 increased by more than 160 per cent in the first week of this month, with 100 patients contracting the virus in acute hospitals in one week alone.
    Health officials have warned that outbreaks in health care settings are of particular concern moving into the winter period.
    At the weekly HSE briefing on Thursday afternoon, Martin Cormican, national lead for associated infection and antimicrobial resistance, said there were 38 incidences of patients acquiring Covid-19 while in hospital the week ending November 1st, and this rose to 100 in the week ending November 8th.
    Prof Cormican said preventing the spread of infection in hospitals “is always hard” because it is a setting which requires “intense person-to-person interaction”.
    “When a hospital has an outbreak you can get a large number of cases in a very short space of time. We know that Letterkenny, Limerick and Naas have been struggling with large outbreaks and so the numbers came up quite quickly,” he said.

    Prof Cormican added that healthcare workers are asked to clean their hands 10 times an hour and that “one lapse in a 12-hour shift can spread infection”.

    “Nobody is happy about the number going up, we’re not saying anyone is to blame, but we, as the HSE, are responsible and we are going to do everything we can to get those numbers better,” he added.


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    #6133
    rob316
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    Dec 1st open up and no more NPHET media briefings please. We shouldn't be giving this lot the time of day.


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    #6134
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,135 ✭✭✭prunudo


    davemckenna25 wrote: »
    I do believe its 221 are off work due to covid19. Some are off due to testing positive and some are off due to be deemed close contacts. Not 221 positive cases in staff.
    Lets stick to the facts.

    Yes, and while I haven't seen numbers for Vincents, I believe it was the same there. A department (could be more than one) having to close due to a combination of some staff testing positive and other staff having to self isolate.


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    #6135
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Date Announced Swabs
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    #6136
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,638 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The CMO really isn’t helping end all this antivax ****e by constantly downplaying the vaccine


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    #6137
    [Deleted User]
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    I haven't watched this in a long time, but happen to be working at my desk right now so turned to the presser.

    Jesus Christ. It just goes on and and on and on and on and on. Repeating the same stuff over and over. With sycophantic journos asking questions that have already been answered.

    Is it seriously like this every time? What a waste of everybody's time


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    #6138
    bikeman1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    Whatever about the stuff coming out from Dr Doom, 2nd best in Europe and still miserable and downbeat.

    But who are those people asking questions? Certainly not journalists? The most useless bunch of questions that could be asked. It’s like they are getting their ideas from their Instagram or Twitter, oh wait they are.

    No tough questions whatsoever. What happened to go old investigating questions.

    Lee was a laugh, oooh ahhh that’s a striking graph ooh aahhh


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    #6139
    irishguy1983
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭irishguy1983


    What do people want NPHET/govt to do? Genuine question....I just see a lot of people complaining about numbers but not really sure what they want to actually happen....


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    #6140
    giveitholly
    Registered Users Posts: 5,571 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    What do people want NPHET/govt to do? Genuine question....I just see a lot of people complaining about numbers but not really sure what they want to actually happen....

    Be more transparent about what is going on in hospitals would be one thing and stop blaming house parties and takeaway pints for these outbreaks


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    #6141
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,135 ✭✭✭prunudo


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The CMO really isn’t helping end all this antivax ****e by constantly downplaying the vaccine

    As I've said before its like they don't understand human behaviours or how words and actions can sometimes have unintended consequences.


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    #6142
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    It's the only gig in town at the moment. The tickets must be like gold dust.

    Seriously though there is a conflict of interest in terms of the HSE representation on NPHET. They won't be going out of their way to draw attention to hospitals. Dr Tony mentioned that people were going to work while ill in healthcare settings when they were clearly not well.

    That's a bit of a deflection. I'm sure you do get people like that but outbreaks on wards are only sourced from this. HSE is not an organisation known for rewarding whistleblowers.

    Yeah would agree with all of that really.

    The HSE representation hadn't really crossed my mind until you mentioned it there and that makes sense, why draw attention to ourselves, group it all under work places, a very general term


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    #6143
    Benimar
    Registered Users Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Benimar


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Date Announced Swabs
    19 429 390
    18 379 389
    17 366 364
    16 456 491
    15 378 374
    14 456 388
    13 482 523
    12 395 423
    11 362 418
    10 270 284
    9 270 327
    8 542 315
    7 335 428
    6 499 502
    5 591 450
    4 444 617
    3 322 391
    2 767 394
    1 552 539
    31 416 674
    30 772 684
    29 866 783
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    27 720 535
    26 939 738
    25 1025 922
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    23 777 1036
    22 1066 1035
    21 1167 1112
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    18846 18063

    783

    In the 15 days prior to that swabs were 857 higher. It all comes out in the wash.

    They might be delaying the numbers (I still don't think its deliberate) but they aren't creating cases.


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    #6144
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    prunudo wrote: »
    As I've said behaviour its like they don't understand human behaviours or how words and actions can sometimes have unintended consequences.

    like for example saying we've a vaccine, we're all saved leading to people completely disregarding all current public health measures months before we actually get it?


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    [Deleted User]
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The CMO really isn’t helping end all this antivax ****e by constantly downplaying the vaccine

    Do you have trouble understanding? The vaccine will not be in play until next year. Of course he must down play if idiots are think it is reason to forget the rules NOW


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    #6146
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,720 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    rob316 wrote: »
    Dec 1st open up and no more NPHET media briefings please. We shouldn't be giving this lot the time of day.

    I do agree there should be no press briefing but then what no number at all only at weekends, Imagine if you hear instead 400 you hear 2800. Lets just ignore it nothing to see here


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    #6147
    Arghus
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    giveitholly wrote: »
    Be more transparent about what is going on in hospitals would be one thing and stop blaming house parties and takeaway pints for these outbreaks

    But there's never going to be a situation, even if we are down to 50 cases a day, where they won't be conveying the same message: limit your contacts etc, etc - that's the message, it isn't going to change.


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    #6148
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    irishguy1983 wrote: »
    What do people want NPHET/govt to do? Genuine question....I just see a lot of people complaining about numbers but not really sure what they want to actually happen....

    they want them to align with whatever armchair epidemiology they've scribbled on the back of a fag packet that day. when that doesn't happen they get upset.


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    #6149
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    giveitholly wrote: »
    Be more transparent about what is going on in hospitals would be one thing and stop blaming house parties and takeaway pints for these outbreaks

    The Irish time article was good in that some doctor at their press conference acknowledged it and say they are responsible and will do everything to fix.

    Would be hard to get those words out of Tony. You don't get to the top here by acknowledging failings and trying to fix them.


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    #6150
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭screamer


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Did someone post here last night about an outbreak in Vincents ? I remember seeing something about it.

    Anyway just heard a family member went in today for a consultants visit, the family member was wearing their mask, the consultant wasn't, even said you can take your mask off if you want while they were in the office.

    Unbelievable

    same thing happened to my dad yesterday in waterford regional or whatever its called these days..,,


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    #6151
    martingriff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,720 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The CMO really isn’t helping end all this antivax ****e by constantly downplaying the vaccine

    Didn't see it tonight what did he say exactly


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