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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #4532
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    He's waffling, didn't say anything of the sort. GPs are reporting no clear increase in test requests, HSE swab data suggests no increase in demand over the weekend. Average number of contacts hasn't increased in 3 weeks.

    And most young people fall in to the asymptomatic or very mild symptoms category. In other words they fall in to the barely noticeable category in terms of having the virus. Join the dots from there...


  • #4533
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,226 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Busi_Girl08 wrote: »
    Some businesses like wet pubs haven't opened at all in Dublin. It's always been under some tighter restriction than everywhere else

    So just wet pubs closed longer?
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  • #4534
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭poppers


      Deleted User wrote: »
      All border counties reasonable numbers today. 11 donegal, 5 or less for Cavan, Monaghan and Leitrim and Sligo.

      Louth 17 too.

      the donegal number looks low as there were 10 additional cases found in the hospital yesterday after 2pm
      https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-20-00-15-november-2020.pdf


    1. #4535
      Tpcl20
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


      The key thing that will stop that over the coming days will be people's behaviour.

      Although we won't see it slowing down if it isn't already until two weeks from now.

      So basically the questions we should be asking now are "what happens when we don't meet the target" and "why are we not taking more targeted measures to achieve this".


    2. #4536
      Polar101
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


      Pretty good questions and answers tonight, I was expecting it's going to be "are you cancelling Christmas?" or "will you be banning street parties"?

      Edit: Of course now someone asks about takeaway pints.


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    4. #4537
      nofools
      Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


      Antares35 wrote: »
      Wow, so much truth and sense. I think a lot of anti vaxxers are just band wagon jumpers. They're all in the same group - water is poison, sugar is cancer, except when they're mixed in a homeopathic remedy. We've one in our family. I wish there was a vaccine against her tbh.

      It's maddening to think there are highly educated and qualified people in labs all over the world working day and night to get a vaccine for covid so that a cohort of the knit your own teapot brigade can refuse to take it.

      I completely agree but at the same time some appropriate skepticism around a novel technology and rushed approval process and unprecedented motivation to get it across the line is logical.


    5. #4538
      Busi_Girl08
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,528 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


      JP Liz V1 wrote: »
      So just wet pubs closed longer?

      Yes. Just a few hundred businesses closed and few thousand people out of work.


    6. #4539
      Tpcl20
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


      Great question by Hosford from the Examiner.

      The outbreaks in the community aren't necessarily being caused by takeaway pints.

      Ronan Glynn says the he doesn't have specific evidence that it's even led to a case.

      The more people do that, the more likely there'll be a case and cluster.

      But repeatedly going into school buildings and doing all the associated activity is not regarded as a risk in this respect.

      I get demoralised when we're being lied to repeatedly.


    7. #4540
      Roger_007
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


      Has there been any time during this pandemic when the next two weeks were not critical?


    8. #4541
      screamer
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


      Leilani Proud Hockey wrote: »
      No further guidance on how to make indoor places of gathering safer. We are going around in circles, a complete and utter embarrassment.

      How about avoiding indoor gatherings.... what else can we do to protect ourselves


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    10. #4542
      Arghus
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


      Tpcl20 wrote: »
      Great question by Hosford from the Examiner.

      The outbreaks in the community aren't necessarily being caused by takeaway pints.

      Ronan Glynn says the he doesn't have specific evidence that it's even led to a case.

      The more people do that, the more likely there'll be a case and cluster.

      But repeatedly going into school buildings and doing all the associated activity is not regarded as a risk in this respect.

      I get demoralised when we're being lied to repeatedly.

      Everyone knows schools are a risk, but they are considered a more essential thing to try to keep functional for the good of society.

      Unfortunately takeaway pints on the street can't be justified on those same grounds.


    11. #4543
      JP100
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


      Icyseanfitz wrote: »
      i suppose they needed something to take away from schools reopening after midterm possibly causing an increase again, take-away pints it is! :D

      Yep, and that kind of stuff is mama from heaven to the media and in particular social media and the politicians will lap it up - faux outrage over takeaway points.


    12. #4544
      Polar101
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


      Roger_007 wrote: »
      Has there been any time during this pandemic when the next two weeks were not critical?

      Today Dr. Glynn said people should look at their behaviour today, and not think about what happens in two or six weeks.

      The next two weeks are not crucial.


    13. #4545
      Tpcl20
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


      I've a question.

      Do NPHET feel disappointed with themselves and ashamed of their failing the entire country when they look at how long we've been locked down for relative to the rest of the world and the rubbish outcomes we've still had?

      When I see gatherings happening around the world it makes me want to throttle Holy Tony and little Glynner. Abject failures.


    14. #4546
      lalababa
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭lalababa


      Remember the heated debates where the 'experts' with their graphs said covid was not here or Europe until January/Feb. Well they just discovered that it was circulating in Italy in September 2019. Breaking news.ie.
      But..but..de graphs Saoirse ...


    15. #4547
      Eod100
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,181 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


      Roger_007 wrote: »
      Has there been any time during this pandemic when the next two weeks were not critical?

      In fairness, that's their job. I think they and we'd all love to say the virus has been eliminated but not going to happen today or tomorrow unfortunately. But easing of restrictions possible if people do follow guidelines as best they can and this hasn't changed since day 1


    16. #4548
      screamer
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


      Leilani Proud Hockey wrote: »
      avoid them for good?

      Avoid them until the vaccine is available. Unless you absolutely have to be in an indoor setting with a load of people, why would this even be a question?


    17. #4549
      Jinglejangle69
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,133 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


      Tpcl20 wrote: »
      I've a question.

      Do NPHET feel disappointed with themselves and ashamed of their failing the entire country when they look at how long we've been locked down for relative to the rest of the world and the rubbish outcomes we've still had?

      When I see gatherings happening around the world it makes me want to throttle Holy Tony and little Glynner. Abject failures.

      We are doing brilliant when you compare us to other countries numbers.

      Not that I agree with any of this lockdown.


    18. #4550
      Arghus
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


      Roger_007 wrote: »
      Has there been any time during this pandemic when the next two weeks were not critical?

      It wasn't repeated as much during the low case days of the Summer.

      But people don't seem to understand that the next two weeks are crucial, as will the two weeks after that as will be the two weeks after that... the message is never going to change until the virus goes away.


    19. #4551
      prunudo
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,115 ✭✭✭prunudo


      Leilani Proud Hockey wrote: »
      Meeting outdoors is way safer than meeting indoors in pubs/restaurants/cafes or going to a gym. Outrage over outdoor congregation nothing on what to do going forward for these businesses that need people inside their premises.

      And any of the footage I've seen consists of less people than you'd see in a school yard at break time. But the outrage must continue.


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    21. #4552
      Eod100
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,181 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


      lalababa wrote: »
      Remember the heated debates where the 'experts' with their graphs said covid was not here or Europe until January/Feb. Well they just discovered that it was circulating in Italy in September 2019. Breaking news.ie.
      But..but..de graphs Saoirse ...

      So conclusions changed based on new evidence? That's as it should be. Science can't be based on guestimating or speculating


    22. #4553
      Polar101
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


      Tpcl20 wrote: »

      But repeatedly going into school buildings and doing all the associated activity is not regarded as a risk in this respect.

      I get demoralised when we're being lied to repeatedly.

      Isn't it more like everyone knows there will be cases in schools, but they will be kept open so society can function as normally as possible? The same with healthcare - from a pandemic point of view it would be safer to shut down some services, but that's definitely not something that should be done.


    23. #4554
      Tpcl20
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


      Arghus wrote: »
      Everyone knows schools are a risk, but they are considered a more essential thing to try to keep functional for the good of society.

      Unfortunately takeaway pints on the street can't be justified on those same grounds.

      He just admitted there's no evidence that they're even contributing to spread.

      There are cases and clusters increasing in schools every single day. They're one of the primary sources of spread (if you believe that "household" spread does not include at least a huge proportion of people with school-aged children then you're kidding yourself) and we're allowing it to continue and ignoring it.


    24. #4555
      landofthetree
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


      Wait till the All Ireland celebrations start.

      Then all the people returning home over Xmas.

      It will be lockdown till late April.


    25. #4556
      spookwoman
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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    26. #4557
      lemonTrees
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭lemonTrees


      This is what happens when people can't act responsibly. The "ah sur it be grand like" pig ignorant Irish attitude.


    27. #4558
      froog
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


      nice presser. no graphs, none of the NPHET heavyweights. just ro ro straight talking.


    28. #4559
      Tpcl20
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


      Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
      We are doing brilliant when you compare us to other countries numbers.

      Not that I agree with any of this lockdown.
      The results have not been proportional to the action taken.


    29. #4560
      UrbanFret
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


      Back in march and April Ireland and Poland were on a similar trajectory. In fact Poland has less case than us. Just Look at where the respective Numbers are now.
      Ireland has done well to be where we are. There's no way the numbers are going to get much lower than what wer


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    31. #4561
      prunudo
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,115 ✭✭✭prunudo


      Schools aren't the problem, little Johnny has covid but is asymptomatic so nobody knows. He brings it home and infects mammy or daddy. They inturn go to work and infect Mick and Mary.
      So therefore it has to be the workplaces, nphet proclaim we're not doing enough and the next 2 weeks are critical.


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