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Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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  • #652
    Glebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Glebee wrote: »
    Think ill chance a mini pallet of those rocker blaze to try them out.. They seem great. Using timber and briquettes in a double sized stove at the moment. Burning wet timber is just a complete waste of time. Better off to store it up for a few years and get really benefit out of it then. Anyone able to recommend a good hoover unit for removing ashes? had a few different ones over the years and they were all crap..

    Was going to get some of those rocket blazers to give them a try out. Was in Topline earlier and picked up two of these Thornton Eco blaze packs just to try. I presume these along the same lines as the Rocket Blaze? Bit of a price difference, Thorntons Ecoblaze 10 for 2, Rocket blaze 20 euro for 2(sample pack offer).


  • #653
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    If you are in Cork then these guys have 1.2m3 of ash or oak for 230 which is a very decent price, everywhere else seems to be about 250, some even 270.

    https://www.coughlanfuels.com/kiln-dried-logs.html

    The oak is very good and 7% moisture

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  • #654
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    How does €232 delivered for a 1m crate of Birch sound?

    Also this wood will be kept outdoors under a lean too, so while not rained on, may absorb moisture, does this defeat the purpose of buying kiln dried?

    Thanks for humoring this newbie!


  • #655
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Stallingrad wrote: »
    How does €232 delivered for a 1m crate of Birch sound?

    Not the best as Monahans do 1.2m3 of birch for 250 so 20% more wood for just 18 quid extra. Read back up the thread though, birch burns pretty fast compared to oak/ash. Its always worth spending the little extra on oak or ash imo.
    Also this wood will be kept outdoors under a lean too, so while not rained on, may absorb moisture, does this defeat the purpose of buying kiln dried?

    Thanks for humoring this newbie!

    yeah they will absorb some moisture in our damp climate and the logs close to the ground can get wet if there is rain bouncing up and splashing against them. The trick to counter that is to have a decent sized inddor log store and dry them out further by having them indoors for 2-3 weeks before burning them. See this post for more info
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115178851&postcount=606
    Its not a problem if you have them indoors for a bit before burning, it would be if you took them from outside that night to burn them.


  • #656
    tinner777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    If you are in Cork then these guys have 1.2m3 of ash or oak for 230 which is a very decent price, everywhere else seems to be about 250, some even 270.

    https://www.coughlanfuels.com/kiln-dried-logs.html

    They don't come as far out as me :mad:


  • #657
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    tinner777 wrote: »
    They don't come as far out as me :mad:

    Did you ring them ?
    I’m not on their route either but for a big order they will make an exception

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  • #658
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    Did you ring them ?
    I’m not on their route either but for a big order they will make an exception

    How big an order?


  • #659
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    bailey99 wrote: »
    How big an order?
    I got the 1.2m of oak and a few bags of sticks, they were very nice to deal with on the phone

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  • #660
    bailey99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭bailey99


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    I got the 1.2m of oak and a few bags of sticks, they were very nice to deal with on the phone

    That's hardly a big order. I thought you ordered a few crates hence why they delivered to you.


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  • #661
    tinner777
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭tinner777


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    I got the 1.2m of oak and a few bags of sticks, they were very nice to deal with on the phone

    Ballyvourney?? Similar distance for you?


  • #662
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    tinner777 wrote: »
    Ballyvourney?? Similar distance for you?

    Give them a call they are nice people to deal with

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  • #663
    chris_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    Jees lads! I've decided to try and move from coal to wood for our stove but I didnt realise it was going to be this tricky :D

    We have a Stanley Erin stove with a back boiler. Been burning coal for long time but its just a mess. Coal dust in the garage, coal dust in the house at times, pretty bad suit build up in stove and chimney.

    So figure its time to give wood a shot. Always had it in my head that wood would burn too quick and not give us the same heat to the water and the room, and would be more expensive. We usually get 12 x 40kg bags of coal for around €190 and light the fire nearly every day at the minute.

    What I want to do is get a small enough order initially to see how we get on and then order a bigger crate if we're happy with it. Storage isnt much of an issue as we have a big enough shed.

    Some great advice on this thread. Gearing towards Ash and some Rocket Blaze logs. Just need to find the best place to order now. We're based up outside Letterkenny.


  • #664
    Glebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Used some of the Thorntons Eco Blaze logs last night in the big stove. Great heat of them and quick to take off but the dont last long. Great for getting a fire going and when water temp in back boiler is up, switch to dry timber and briquettes to keep the heat going. I would not likme to see 5-6 of those Eco logs ablaze in a stove, id say they would be lethal.


  • #665
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Ordered the hardwood option here for €245 delivered.

    https://surefirewood.ie/collections/surefire-special-offers/products/kiln-dried-firewood-super-jumbo-4-kindling-savers?variant=30983665516598

    Just built a firewood rack under the outdoor lean to, €20 for the timber and an hour putting it together. Job done!


  • #666
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    chris_ie wrote: »

    What I want to do is get a small enough order initially to see how we get on and then order a bigger crate if we're happy with it. Storage isnt much of an issue as we have a big enough shed.

    Some great advice on this thread. Gearing towards Ash and some Rocket Blaze logs. Just need to find the best place to order now. We're based up outside Letterkenny.

    The company Surefirewood is in Fermanagh and have lots of different sizes of bags of ash if you just want to start off with a test order. They deliver nationally anyway. If you look back up the thread from about 2 weeks back theres a few suppliers of rocket blazers mentioned too.


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  • #667
    chris_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    The company Surefirewood is in Fermanagh and have lots of different sizes of bags of ash if you just want to start off with a test order. They deliver nationally anyway. If you look back up the thread from about 2 weeks back theres a few suppliers of rocket blazers mentioned too.

    Cheers, I see the bags they have seem to be mixes? I've seen that Birch can be quite sparky therefore not ideal for stoves (how true that is, I'm not sure).

    I've ordered the sample pack of Rocket Blaze from EcoLogs.


  • #668
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    chris_ie wrote: »
    Cheers, I see the bags they have seem to be mixes? I've seen that Birch can be quite sparky therefore not ideal for stoves (how true that is, I'm not sure).

    I've ordered the sample pack of Rocket Blaze from EcoLogs.

    yeah I think they are mixes but there isnt a lot between oak and ash when it comes to the heat it produces and how long it burns. And yeah birch can be sparky when the bark of it burns and it burns quicker than oak or ash. If you want ash only then the likes of Co-op, Topline, Monahans seem all to deliver nationally. Avoid buying net bags from petrol stations or garden centres as a tester, they are typically not the best wood and wont give you a good idea of whats what.


  • #669
    deisedav
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭deisedav


    chris_ie wrote: »
    Cheers, I see the bags they have seem to be mixes? I've seen that Birch can be quite sparky therefore not ideal for stoves (how true that is, I'm not sure).

    I've ordered the sample pack of Rocket Blaze from EcoLogs.

    The mix that I got from surefire wood contained no birch whatsoever . Ash, beech, oak and chestnut, all good quality


  • #670
    5500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭5500


    Would anyone take a guess at the weight of the 80x80 bags from monahans? I've been buying 10kg bags of Ash at 6euro a bag but they were going quickly testing out the fire recently. I would only tend to light it one or 2 nights a week and would easily use a bag and a bit over an evening.

    Rather than having a heap sat up that might not be used for over a year I was thinking of the 80x80 but trying to compare it v buying the 6euro 10kg bags as needed, or should I just be looking at the 1.2m crate and figuring out where to store it


  • #671
    Heighway61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    2.2 arrived from Bio Glow this morning. All stacked in the garage now. Deluge came on as soon as the driver left so some got a bit wet.

    Internal dimensions 175 x 99 x 101. I had imagined there would be more in the load. They're good at the camera angles in the promo shots.

    The vary in size. About a third, possibly up to half are too big for my stoves, which is a problem.

    That's 96 bales of Rocket Blaze and the 2.2 of oak in. We'll see how that goes, hopefully it's enough.

    Same delivery driver for both. Fair play to him, he drove down the steep incline into my driveway with this forty foot and had a difficult turning but he got the pallets right to my garage door.

    Thanks to everyone in here who gave adivce. First time going with wood and got great help.


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  • #672
    Cloudio9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    Got 1.2m of kiln dried beech from tj omahony. €220 delivered. Looks like they deliver to about a dozen counties. Normally get ash but am happy with this. Also the logs have a lovely golden colour when stacked inside the house.

    Would echo what previous posters have said that birch burns very well but quickly and the bark peels all over the place.
    Not a huge fan of oak because the flame is not as bright as ash or beech and oak seems to splinter a lot.


  • #673
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Heighway61 wrote: »
    2.2 arrived from Bio Glow this morning. All stacked in the garage now. Deluge came on as soon as the driver left so some got a bit wet.

    Internal dimensions 175 x 99 x 101. I had imagined there would be more in the load. They're good at the camera angles in the promo shots.

    The vary in size. About a third, possibly up to half are too big for my stoves, which is a problem.

    That's 96 bales of Rocket Blaze and the 2.2 of oak in. We'll see how that goes, hopefully it's enough.

    Same delivery driver for both. Fair play to him, he drove down the steep incline into my driveway with this forty foot and had a difficult turning but he got the pallets right to my garage door.

    Thanks to everyone in here who gave adivce. First time going with wood and got great help.

    Did you pay €390 for the timber? I calculated that at 1.74 cbm, I think that’s expensive v Monahan’s

    Can I ask where you got the rocket blaze? Cheers


  • #674
    5500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭5500


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    Got 1.2m of kiln dried beech from tj omahony. €220 delivered. Looks like they deliver to about a dozen counties. Normally get ash but am happy with this. Also the logs have a lovely golden colour when stacked inside the house.

    Would echo what previous posters have said that birch burns very well but quickly and the bark peels all over the place.
    Not a huge fan of oak because the flame is not as bright as ash or beech and oak seems to splinter a lot.

    In terms of burning how does beech compare to ash?


  • #675
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    5500 wrote: »
    Would anyone take a guess at the weight of the 80x80 bags from monahans? I've been buying 10kg bags of Ash at 6euro a bag but they were going quickly testing out the fire recently. I would only tend to light it one or 2 nights a week and would easily use a bag and a bit over an evening.

    Rather than having a heap sat up that might not be used for over a year I was thinking of the 80x80 but trying to compare it v buying the 6euro 10kg bags as needed, or should I just be looking at the 1.2m crate and figuring out where to store it

    This is only a rough guess and I would ring up Monahans to ask them the weight so you can be sure on your comparison. But some fuel sites advertise a Im3 crate as being 400kg of logs. An 80x80x80 bag is 0.5m3. But I think its best to ring up to get a weight as there are variables such as how much fresh air is in the bag due to the logs not being hand stacked and they would be with a crate.

    I think though you need more wood that a 80cm bulk bag. I burn two fires a week with three the odd week if its very cold and last winter I had a 1.2m3 crate which just lasted me until Paddys Day and then I didnt buy anymore. I think if burning two fires a week then you will need a crate, if you order a bulk bag you'll be ordering another one in mid January or so.


  • #676
    5500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭5500


    Thanks for the advice, crate it is so, just need to decide between Tj's beech for 220 or monahans ash/oak at 270


  • #677
    Heighway61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Did you pay €390 for the timber? I calculated that at 1.74 cbm, I think that’s expensive v Monahan’s

    Can I ask where you got the rocket blaze? Cheers
    Yep, 390. Could have got it cheaper had I been quicker, or probably elsewhere but needed to buy.


    Got the Rocket Blaze from ecologs.ie

    .


  • #678
    chris_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    Thats one thing I have a slight concern over, is delivery. We have plenty space in the garage for a pallet. We have gravel driveway (poor shape at the bottom) but concrete around the house. If they can get to the concrete then all is good. Depends on the size of the lorry delivering!


  • #679
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Has anyone tried these all star premium stove logs

    https://www.allstarheating.ie/collections/eco-fuel

    I got a starter pack from topline out of boredom, the heat output wasn’t great and the log didn’t last long at all, it reminded me of the euro fire logs from spar

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  • #680
    Heighway61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    chris_ie wrote: »
    Thats one thing I have a slight concern over, is delivery. We have plenty space in the garage for a pallet. We have gravel driveway (poor shape at the bottom) but concrete around the house. If they can get to the concrete then all is good. Depends on the size of the lorry delivering!
    Had the same concern. Both places I bought from said no unusual driveways/spaces etc, that the pallet would be left at the kerb in that case. I have a steep incline down into my gravel drive and was resigned to having the pallet left on the road.


    The driver was great and drove his 40-foot down and got the pallets right next to my garage door. He did have a bit of bother with the fork lift on the gravel for a bit.


    You're in Donegal? Duffy's will probably be delivering to you. That's who delivered to me and they were great, as above.


  • #681
    ciarsd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭ciarsd


    Any recommendations for 1m3 of kiln dried oak delivered? My usual two suppliers are out of stock and I'm hesitant in taking a gamble elsewhere without a recommendation, given some terrible experiences in the past with poor quality fuel. I am based in Dublin if that makes a difference. Thanks


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  • #682
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    ciarsd wrote: »
    Any recommendations for 1m3 of kiln dried oak delivered? My usual two suppliers are out of stock and I'm hesitant in taking a gamble elsewhere without a recommendation, given some terrible experiences in the past with poor quality fuel. I am based in Dublin if that makes a difference. Thanks

    Would you go 2cbm? If so then monahans


  • #683
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Or Monahans also has 1.2m3 crates of oak or ash for 270, I would recommend them for wood quality anyway, had no problems with how the order last winter burnt


  • #684
    ciarsd
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    Thanks I will give them a call tomorrow


  • #685
    ablelocks
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    ablelocks wrote: »
    doesn't seem to be online, but the limerick coopstore had 2 of these for €360

    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Crate-Of-Kiln-Dried-Beech-Logs-430kg-0051916

    this is still available


  • #686
    Cloudio9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    5500 wrote: »
    In terms of burning how does beech compare to ash?

    Seems similar to me. The logs are a little smaller so have to turn down the air a bit


  • #687
    Fine Cheers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Stallingrad, how did your rack for holding timber turn out, any photos ?


  • #688
    masterboy123
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    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Garden/Garden-Storage/Outdoor-Storage/Toomax-Storer-Plus-Xl--1270l-1799445

    Bought this yesterday.

    Is it safe to order 1.3 m3 of woods for this box?


  • #689
    cyborg
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    masterboy123 wrote: »
    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Garden/Garden-Storage/Outdoor-Storage/Toomax-Storer-Plus-Xl--1270l-1799445

    Bought this yesterday.

    Is it safe to order 1.3 m3 of woods for this box?

    If stacked carefully it should be OK, I wouldn't be throwing the blocks into it as you will damage the sides


  • #690
    deadduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭deadduck


    masterboy123 wrote: »
    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Garden/Garden-Storage/Outdoor-Storage/Toomax-Storer-Plus-Xl--1270l-1799445

    Bought this yesterday.

    Is it safe to order 1.3 m3 of woods for this box?

    Dimensions translate to roughly 1.5m3, so like cyborg said, stacked neatly should fit easy enough


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  • #691
    Skippy along
    Registered Users Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Skippy along


    masterboy123 wrote: »
    https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Garden/Garden-Storage/Outdoor-Storage/Toomax-Storer-Plus-Xl--1270l-1799445

    Bought this yesterday.

    Is it safe to order 1.3 m3 of woods for this box?

    Have the keter version great job for storing blocks but some advice try and stack as much as you can with the doors closed because when you go higher the blocks will widen the structure doors wouldn't close for me.. Had to empty and re stack with doors closed


  • #692
    masterboy123
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    Thanks a million. :)
    cyborg wrote: »
    If stacked carefully it should be OK, I wouldn't be throwing the blocks into it as you will damage the sides


  • #693
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,637 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    I had one of those and the sides went after a while and the lid blew off with a storm, be very careful with it they aren’t as strong as they look

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  • #694
    Mickeroo
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    Is there a shortage on kindling or something this year? I notice tesco don't seem to have any this year. Used to pick up a back every week. Maybe it's just my local?


  • #695
    5500
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    Try your local Aldi, mine has had a load of it in the middle isle for a few weeks now


  • #696
    Mickeroo
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    5500 wrote: »
    Try your local Aldi, mine has had a load of it in the middle isle for a few weeks now

    Cheers, yeah maybe my local tesco just aren't stocking it this year.


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  • #697
    vicwatson
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    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Is there a shortage on kindling or something this year? I notice tesco don't seem to have any this year. Used to pick up a back every week. Maybe it's just my local?




    Lidl middle aisle have it


  • #698
    chris_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    Have many on here switched completely from coal to wood in their stove? If so how did you find that transition? Do you still use a mix of coal and wood?

    We have a Stanley Erin with back boiler. I know the heat output won't be the same with the wood, but coal is such a mess and we'd usually be up and down at the damper controls when the fire gets too hot. Hoping the wood will give us a good steady heat tow the boiler and the room.


  • #699
    Mickeroo
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    Only burn wood here. Find there's much less ashes than with coal.

    Even though wood probably technically doesn't give off as much heat, I can't say I've noticed a difference and it feels like the wood has the advantage of getting the stove up to heat quicker, so if you're like us where it's mostly lit in the evening you will have a hot stove and rads quicker than with coal (in my experience at least).


  • #700
    mjp
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    I know it depends on how well they packed but on average what cubic metre would be in 1 tonne bags of wood. Quoted €60 for tonne bag of softwood. Dried but not kiln dried. Could I leave it in shed to dry out further and would that dry to kiln dried level of moisture in year or so? Paying €130 for crate of 1.2 cubic metres of kiln dried ash. Seller also has crate of kiln dried teak wood for about €80. Anyone know what it's like to burn in wood burning stove.


  • #701
    bailey99
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    mjp wrote: »
    I know it depends on how well they packed but on average what cubic metre would be in 1 tonne bags of wood. Quoted €60 for tonne bag of softwood. Dried but not kiln dried. Could I leave it in shed to dry out further and would that dry to kiln dried level of moisture in year or so? Paying €130 for crate of 1.2 cubic metres of kiln dried ash. Seller also has crate of kiln dried teak wood for about €80. Anyone know what it's like to burn in wood burning stove.
    Where are u getting 1.2 cubic metres of kiln dried ash for 130. It should be double the price!!!!


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