Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

political analyst · 10-11-2020 12:03AM

Ah, now, will the High Court ever get on with adjudicating on the challenge taken by Press Up Ltd against the restrictions?!

Widdensushi · 10-11-2020 12:06AM

s1ippy wrote: »

Yep it's all down to them and not covid.

But the vaccine is no good good, the sky is falling down

ACitizenErased · 10-11-2020 12:06AM

HSE daily operations update
265 in hospital, decrease of 20.
15 confirmed cases in hospital today.
40 in ICU, increase of 1 with 0 deaths in ICU today.
26 ventilated, increase of 1.

Rob A. Bank · 10-11-2020 12:07AM

A great day...

14 of the 26 counties with less than 5 cases.

Excellent news on the vaccine front... 90% effective and I fervently hope that claim holds up when more cases are reported.

The numbers seem a little thin on the ground at present " This interim analysis, from an independent data monitoring board, looked at 94 infections recorded so far in a study that has enrolled nearly 44,000 people in the U.S. and five other countries."

We live in hope.

Widdensushi · 10-11-2020 12:10AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

HSE daily operations update
265 in hospital, decrease of 20.
15 confirmed cases in hospital today.
40 in ICU, increase of 1 with 0 deaths in ICU today.
26 ventilated, increase of 1.

Thought you were with paddy, thank you for your great posts, ps obviously very different to paddy

ACitizenErased · 10-11-2020 12:12AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Thought you were with paddy, thank you for your great posts, ps obviously very different to paddy

I’d love to go for a drink with paddy tbh

endacl · 10-11-2020 12:18AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Coupled with the vaccine news this is one of the most bright covid related news days in a long time. You'd have to be a real hardcore pessimist to see negativity in today's outlook!

Looks like rain.

podgeandrodge · 10-11-2020 12:20AM

Perhaps we can do a few "relax restrictions, party, bring back in restrictions" etc. etc. for a little while now to get us up to vaccine time!

Widdensushi · 10-11-2020 12:24AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d love to go for a drink with paddy tbh

I meant banned BTW, sure paddy wouldn't be socialising with the likes of us, I wouldn't know one end of a truffle from the other

political analyst · 10-11-2020 12:25AM

Obviously, nobody wants to have Covid. But nobody wants to have chickenpox either, yet outbreaks of it didn't lead to lockdowns.

Polar101 · 10-11-2020 12:38AM

political analyst wrote: »

Obviously, nobody wants to have Covid. But nobody wants to have chickenpox either, yet outbreaks of it didn't lead to lockdowns.

Yes, and when was the last chickenpox outbreak that killed over a million people?

When I had chickenpox 35 years ago, I don't remember passing it on to anyone else, either.

Cork2021 · 10-11-2020 12:42AM

Possibly off topic but it’s been great not to be listening or seeing Matt Ó'Tuathail commenting on COVID.
Now of only a few others would fûck off as well.. ie Staines et al!

Seems that MrMcDonkey has been quiet lately too.

The vaccine news will put them on viagra!!

MrMusician18 · 10-11-2020 12:46AM

Stheno wrote: »

Are you being deliberately obtuse with your comments in your previous post? Its clear from the article that some people in government did not believe a national level 3+ was given time to work

Cases have been coming down significantly now for at least 16 days, I.e. prior to level 5 having an effect whatsoever

Level 3 had been shown to be ineffective and the country was within two to three weeks at the projected rate of increase from becoming overwhelmed. At the time there was no evidence that level 3+ would do anything other than slow or sustain the virus at a high level. 3+ was introduced on the 15 Oct, yet we had over 1000 cases a day on 25th Oct. The virus only appeared to be stalling or falling slowly until L5 kicked in.

In any case, it's somewhat beside the point. The article states that many in government didn't think that level 3 was properly enacted until they went to level 3+, so the question has to be asked, what was going on for the previous two weeks. The article also states that many don't believe that L5 is working, i.e. it's not the cause of the fall in cases. So if many in government believe this, why are we in L5? Why is there no agitation for early loosening?

It's easy to brief off the record, in fact it seems it the one thing this cabinet excels at. It's easy to say but none of them are willing to put their arse on the line for their hunch.

Widdensushi · 10-11-2020 12:48AM

Polar101 wrote: »

Yes, and when was the last chickenpox outbreak that killed over a million people?

When I had chickenpox 35 years ago, I don't remember passing it on to anyone else, either.

The elephant in the room is that there are too many people in the world, a population explosion but as the population gets older % they have more control over the government etc, if people don't produce enough offspring to support them they import young people, a pyramid scheme which refuses to realise that the population cannot continually increase because the older generation have the attitude that once I am out etc.

DebDynamite · 10-11-2020 01:03AM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Possibly off topic but it’s been great not to be listening or seeing Matt Ó'Tuathail commenting on COVID.
Now of only a few others would fûck off as well.. ie Staines et al!

Seems that MrMcDonkey has been quiet lately too.

The vaccine news will put them on viagra!!

Yup, agreed. Hopefully the whole debacle will be the end of his career in media. Mad too that he’s only a qualified GP for two years - at least Staines and the likes have years of experience in a relevant field and are highly regarded, whether we agreed with them at times or not.

nofools · 10-11-2020 01:25AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Now UK not allowing even hauliers in from Denmark who are not resident in UK. The actions being taken are belying that this is nothing to worry about.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1325689037429018624?s=20

Nice precedent for a zero covid strategy. 1 pin down

caveat emptor · 10-11-2020 10:09AM

nofools wrote: »

Nice precedent for a zero covid strategy. 1 pin down

Eh not sure that's what they are going for. The hauliers being blocked shows how serious they take the mutation thing.

Rob A. Bank · 10-11-2020 10:47AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Eh not sure that's what they are going for. The hauliers being blocked shows how serious they take the mutation thing.

Eamon Ryan needs to take the threat seriously and tighten things up... when you compare what the UK are doing and what we are doing. It will be unforgivable if we import a strain of the virus which reduces the effectivness of the vaccines.

The Minister for Transport confirmed that anyone arriving into Ireland from Denmark would have to restrict their movements for 14 days over concerns about the mutated strain of Covid-19 in mink that has spread to humans. Eamon Ryan said there will be no exemptions to the measure, even for people travelling for essential purposes.

The British government has introduced an immediate ban on visitors from Denmark, with exemptions for British nationals or residents who will have to self-isolate for two weeks along with all members of their household.

wakka12 · 10-11-2020 11:16AM

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1326105580046585857
Anybody surprised :pac:

is_that_so · 10-11-2020 11:18AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Eamon Ryan needs to take the threat seriously and tighten things up... when you compare what the UK are doing and what we are doing. It will be unforgivable if we import a strain of the virus which reduces the effectiveness of the vaccines.

We have never banned anyone coming here, certainly not from a fellow EU country.

is_that_so · 10-11-2020 11:19AM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1326105580046585857
Anybody surprised :pac:

It's happened to a few of the others so it's not surprising.

stephenjmcd · 10-11-2020 11:21AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Eamon Ryan needs to take the threat seriously and tighten things up... when you compare what the UK are doing and what we are doing. It will be unforgivable if we import a strain of the virus which reduces the effectivness of the vaccines.

WHO don't sound too worried whatever that's worth, ECDC due to make reference in the next few days. The Danes are yet to publish much data on this and alot has been fueled by journalists, what we do know is there has been 12 cluster 5 cases in September, none recorded since. The other cases related to mink aren't anything new and have been reported as far back as April by the Dutch and don't appear to be a cause for concern. As I said in a previous post it seems like the Danes just took the sledgehammer approach.

"Dr Nabarro also said the discovery of coronavirus cases linked to mink farms is of concern but, as of now, he has not heard that a mutation of the virus is necessarily one that will cause trouble when it comes to a vaccine. "

Edit: For what its worth the cull in Denmark has now been dropped. No evidence put forward of the cluster 5 strain in more than a month. The only cull will be on farms with confirmed cases and those within the exclusion zones.

wakka12 · 10-11-2020 11:33AM

So much for low density populations being spared, North Dakotan hospitals have reached 100% capacity
https://www.inforum.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6753876-With-North-Dakota-hospitals-at-100-capacity-Burgum-announces-COVID-positive-nurses-can-stay-at-work

USA's 5th least densely populated will have among the highest death rates per capita in the country in a few days time

seamus · 10-11-2020 11:35AM

It's the same old routine now;

1. New Information about Covid
2. Panic about the consequences of this information
3. Celebrity doctors and talking heads tell us why it's very concering
4. Experts tell us it's of little concern
5. Forget about it
6. (Optional) Return to step 2 in a few months.

ACitizenErased · 10-11-2020 11:40AM

Not sure if anyone posted this but the Danish cull is off. Only affected region is having a cull.

gozunda · 10-11-2020 11:42AM

Hospitals in Europe now under increasing strain for available resources

https://amp.independent.ie/world-news/europe-running-low-on-intensive-care-beds-amid-virus-spike-39728661.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=upday

Cork2021 · 10-11-2020 12:04PM

The Grinch (Dr Tony) has spoken on Newstalk, doesn’t expect there to be any Christmas drinks in pubs this year.

I’m sick of all this head teacher and is being bold pupils crap from NPHET!! Give it a fûcking rest. Yesterday’s press conference was a farce they actually sounded down beat about the vaccine news and I know they can come into it with tassels swinging from their nipples with party poppers but **** it give us some sort of optimism. Even when looking at the papers this morning, it’s a side headline on the front page. Christ this is huge news. People will not tolerate another lock down and I can business giving the middle finger eventually. Our hospital numbers have been driven by outbreaks in hospitals mostly this has not once been acknowledged in any way by NPHET or the HSE, but it’s our fault that’s happened etc...

We need a break the vaccine has given that to us. I’ve followed the rules from the start but my patience is wearing thin now and the fact the amount of people unemployed is going to soar even further now is crazy!!! Feel so sorry for all those businesses and employees who are constantly left in limbo.
This bull**** about making a decision closer to the 1st of December is a joke. Business needs at least 10 days to get their houses in order.

Funsterdelux · 10-11-2020 12:04PM

Matt Hancock has told the NHS to get ready to start vaccine rollout at the start of December

stephenjmcd · 10-11-2020 12:12PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

The Grinch (Dr Tony) has spoken on Newstalk, doesn’t expect there to be any Christmas drinks in pubs this year.

I’m sick of all this head teacher and is being bold pupils crap from NPHET!! Give it a fûcking rest. Yesterday’s press conference was a farce they actually sounded down beat about the vaccine news and I know they can come into it with tassels swinging from their nipples with party poppers but **** it give us some sort of optimism. Even when looking at the papers this morning, it’s a side headline on the front page. Christ this is huge news. People will not tolerate another lock down and I can business giving the middle finger eventually. Our hospital numbers have been driven by outbreaks in hospitals mostly this has not once been acknowledged in any way by NPHET or the HSE, but it’s our fault that’s happened etc...

We need a break the vaccine has given that to us. I’ve followed the rules from the start but my patience is wearing thin now and the fact the amount of people unemployed is going to soar even further now is crazy!!! Feel so sorry for all those businesses and employees who are constantly left in limbo.
This bull**** about making a decision closer to the 1st of December is a joke. Business needs at least 10 days to get their houses in order.

Just for the avoidance of doubt he wasn't on newstalk, its a clip of yesterday's press conference.

Whatever about CMO & NPHET at the end of the day its governments call, I don't know if the restaurant association or the vintners have got some sort of heads up from government but they've both been out today saying they expect to be open in December.

seamus · 10-11-2020 12:13PM

It's a rather bizarre twist of fate that come December we could be offering to help out other EU countries because we have some spare hospital capacity.

I fear the HSE will get off the hook on their utter incompetence through this.

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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