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Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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    #3392
    Blondini
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Covid in schools

    What's that?


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    #3393
    vid36
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭vid36


    We found that reopening schools, lifting bans on public events, lifting bans on public gatherings of more than ten people, lifting requirements to stay at home, and lifting internal movement limits were associated with an increase in R of 11–25% on day 28 following the relaxation.


    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30785-4/fulltext


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    #3394
    Boggles
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    WHO must be ran by Jim Corr also

    To be fair to Jim I doubt even him would have made Mugabe a Goodwill Ambassador.

    Also up until quite recently didn't the WHO echo Jim's views on masks?


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    #3395
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    You should go to the Schools reopened thread and ask there as I reckon this thread will be closed

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058119207


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    #3396
    BeamMeAway
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    Sorry I have not read every page here but I was curious does anyone think schools will close back down? I am literally driving meself mad wondering daily lol.


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    #3397
    jrosen
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    BeamMeAway wrote: »
    Sorry I have not read every page here but I was curious does anyone think schools will close back down? I am literally driving meself mad wondering daily lol.

    Id be very surprised. I think we will see classes be sent home and even whole schools close if they reach a certain number of confirmed cases and rightly so. But wide spread school closures I would think highly unlikely


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    #3398
    wirelessdude01
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    BeamMeAway wrote: »
    Sorry I have not read every page here but I was curious does anyone think schools will close back down? I am literally driving meself mad wondering daily lol.

    No one knows. Leo the leak doesn't leak to the education sector 😂😋

    At this stage I don't see any circumstances in which they would. There will possibly be individual schools that will close.


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    #3399
    Smacruairi
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    No one knows. Leo the leak doesn't leak to the education sector 😂😋

    At this stage I don't see any circumstances in which they would. There will possibly be individual schools that will close.

    Leo the Leak could have been the one to persistently leak to the media over the summer about the changes in the leaving cert ever 3 days to be fair, it is his style it seems, especially when dealing with unions.


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    #3400
    meeeeh
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    Boggles wrote: »
    To be fair to Jim I doubt even him would have made Mugabe a Goodwill Ambassador.

    Donald is that you?

    I can take different research coming to different conclusions and pointing out science is not infallible but to dismiss WHO research saying that they had Mugabe on their payroll is ridiculous.


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    #3401
    vid36
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    BeamMeAway wrote: »
    Sorry I have not read every page here but I was curious does anyone think schools will close back down? I am literally driving meself mad wondering daily lol.


    I can't see widespread school closures before Christmas. January . February are impossible to predict at this stage.


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    #3402
    Boggles
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    Donald is that you?

    I can take different research coming to different conclusions and pointing out science is not infallible but to dismiss WHO research saying that they had Mugabe on their payroll is ridiculous.

    Never suggested he was on the pay roll, I assumed Goodwill ambassador doesn't garner a wage, could be wrong though. maybe expenses?

    WHO criticised for appointing Mugabe goodwill ambassador


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    #3403
    eagle eye
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    meeeeh wrote:
    I can take different research coming to different conclusions and pointing out science is not infallible but to dismiss WHO research saying that they had Mugabe on their payroll is ridiculous.
    There lots more reasons than that to dismiss the WHO. They gave us incorrect information at the outset and ignored Taiwan.


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    #3404
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    vid36 wrote: »
    We found that reopening schools, lifting bans on public events, lifting bans on public gatherings of more than ten people, lifting requirements to stay at home, and lifting internal movement limits were associated with an increase in R of 11–25% on day 28 following the relaxation.


    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30785-4/fulltext

    As I commented previously on this study, it produced an interesting set of results, and puts to bed those persistent shouts on the restrictions thread that restrictions did nothing. However it did not find any statistical difference between any of the measures evaluated


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    #3405
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    Boggles wrote: »
    Never suggested he was on the pay roll, I assumed Goodwill ambassador doesn't garner a wage, could be wrong though. maybe expenses?

    WHO criticised for appointing Mugabe goodwill ambassador

    "How the **** are we going the get Zimbabwe and their related client regimes to back any of our programmes"

    "Just make Bob a goodwill ambassador and they will let us in. It means nothing and will massage his ego a bit and more importantly improve health outcomes for millions"


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    #3406
    meeeeh
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    Boggles wrote: »
    Never suggested he was on the pay roll, I assumed Goodwill ambassador doesn't garner a wage, could be wrong though. maybe expenses?

    WHO criticised for appointing Mugabe goodwill ambassador

    I will admit I was exaggerating there and no I have no proof they paid him but it still doesn't change the fact their research has very little to do with who they use as goodwill ambassador. Mugabe was respected by some in Africa. It's very west centric view for us to expect WHO only to use people we approve when they should those who can make difference in the region.

    In the same way I'm not defending their soft approach in China (hard would be tricky too) or ignoring the results in Taiwan. There is huge amount of research done under WHO and financed by world countries and it can't all be dismissed by their ignorance of Taiwan, by who their president is or who their goodwill Ambassadors are.


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    #3407
    [Deleted User]
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    vid36 wrote: »
    I can't see widespread school closures before Christmas. January . February are impossible to predict at this stage.

    I think all schools will be shut by December 22nd and wont open again until January 6th

    There may also be a shorter closure of about a week on the 15th of February. This may be discretionary however and some schools may only close for 2 days


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    #3408
    Boggles
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    "How the **** are we going the get Zimbabwe and their related client regimes to back any of our programmes"

    "Just make Bob a goodwill ambassador and they will let us in. It means nothing and will massage his ego a bit and more importantly improve health outcomes for millions"

    Really? Because by all accounts it was a solo run by the main man.

    The net effect of which tarnished their reputation world wide, including Africa.

    At the very least it brings into question the decision making at the very top, which was all ready under immense scrutiny, which has been since dragged into this pandemic when science was suppressed for the perceived "greater good".

    The balance of which long tipped before they u-turned on their BS.

    So again, not the most trust worthy of sources it has to be said, in general and specific to this very relatively infant pandemic.


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    #3409
    BeamMeAway
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think all schools will be shut by December 22nd and wont open again until January 6th

    There may also be a shorter closure of about a week on the 15th of February. This may be discretionary however and some schools may only close for 2 days

    Lolol.I think the commies will shut them down again (not including holidays,) just don’t know when.


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    #3410
    vid36
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think all schools will be shut by December 22nd and wont open again until January 6th

    There may also be a shorter closure of about a week on the 15th of February. This may be discretionary however and some schools may only close for 2 days

    All the world's leading experts believe that schools should be closed when community transmission is high; look for Dr Fauci's , Professor Ferguson's and Dr Dorsten's various comments on the issue. To do otherwise is putting politics or ideology ahead of science, it is a form of fundamentalism.


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    #3411
    vid36
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    Sir Jeremy Farrer, a member of Sage (UK version of NPHET) states in an interview that transmission particularly in secondary schools is high.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54772375


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    #3412
    Theboinkmaster
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    Boggles wrote: »
    1000+ children test positive with the virus a week, virtually none being linked back to schools.

    You tell me.

    There are 1,000+ children being diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland each week?! can you put up a link to show that please?

    Also have you calculate numbers infected by schools and then deducted the two to arrive at those being home schooled? what about crèches?

    No you haven't - because there are fvck all children in Ireland being home schooled.


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    #3413
    aziz
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    Got told today that there’s a case in my daughters primary school but no other details


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    #3414
    jrosen
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    aziz wrote: »
    Got told today that there’s a case in my daughters primary school but no other details

    The child was probably diagnosed over the mid term.


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    #3415
    meeeeh
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    vid36 wrote: »
    All the world's leading experts believe that schools should be closed when community transmission is high; look for Dr Fauci's , Professor Ferguson's and Dr Dorsten's various comments on the issue. To do otherwise is putting politics or ideology ahead of science, it is a form of fundamentalism.

    Not this nonsense again...

    Every tine someone comes up with that they are actually never able to define what 'high' or 'out of control' means. It always turns out to be what themselves define as high and nothing any of the quoted experts said or defined.


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    #3416
    2ndcoming
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    Not this nonsense again...

    It's not nonsense, from a purely Covid suppression point of view it's indisputable fact.

    We have more than that to consider, including children's development and mental health. From the looks of it by restricting nearly everything else we may be able to keep them open too.


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    #3417
    wirelessdude01
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    Theboinkmaster wrote: »
    There are 1,000+ children being diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland each week?! can you put up a link to show that please?
    Have a look.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/


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    #3418
    wirelessdude01
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    Not this nonsense again...

    Every tine someone comes up with that they are actually never able to define what 'high' or 'out of control' means. It always turns out to be what themselves define as high and nothing any of the quoted experts said or defined.

    What would level 5 have indicated to you?


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    #3419
    meeeeh
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    2ndcoming wrote: »
    It's not nonsense, from a purely Covid suppression point of view it's indisputable fact.

    We have more than that to consider, including children's development and mental health. From the looks of it by restricting nearly everything else we may be able to keep them open too.
    Define high. Nobody put a number on what is high enough to close schools. It's useless without some actual numbers or some objective markers.


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    #3420
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    What would level 5 have indicated to you?

    It indicates to me that nonessential businesses ard closed and we're stuck inside 5km. Does it indicate something else to you?

    Because our 14 day numbers are at the lower end in Europe, hospitals are not under pressure, normal health service is going so tell me what else should level 5 mean?


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    #3421
    wirelessdude01
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    It indicates to me that nonessential businesses ard closed and we're stuck inside 5km. Does it indicate something else to you?

    Nothing about widespread transmission landing us in level 5?

    CMO described it as that.


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