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Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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    #662
    I Am The Law
    Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Now that is funny all right.

    Some of the bile on this thread is eye-opening.

    Some people just don’t like a successful gay son of an immigrant, do they?

    Some people just don't like him.


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    #663
    [Deleted User]
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    He was the Taoiseach, he could authorise himself!!!!!

    Some of the stuff people are posting is hilarious.

    That's dangerously close to Nixon's "when the president does it, it isn't illegal" scenario. In this instance the contents of the document would have been communicated eventually anyhow, doesn't mean they were communicated using the correct means.


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    #664
    foundation10
    Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭foundation10


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    This is 4.(4) In this section “duly authorised” means authorised by a Minister or State authority or by some person authorised in that behalf by a Minister or State authority.

    What 'Minister or State authority' authorised him to release the Confidential document, or are you suggesting that any 'Minister or State authority' can release any/all Confidential documents without recourse to any other individual/authority.


    I would imagine this means that the information is communicated by way of a press release and not send by post to the private house of one of your drinking buddies.


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    #665
    Cute Hoor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    blanch152 wrote: »
    He was the Taoiseach, he could authorise himself!!!!!

    Some of the stuff people are posting is hilarious.

    So in your view a Taoiseach has carte blanche to release any/all Confidential documents to whoever they see fit.


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    #666
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    blanch152 wrote: »
    He was the Taoiseach, he could authorise himself!!!!!

    Some of the stuff people are posting is hilarious.

    Ein Fuhrer Blanch?
    It doesn't work that way here.


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    #667
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,208 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Still should go through the proper channels though, even if your point is essentially right.

    What proper channels? He was the Taoiseach.


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    #668
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I believe there is more to come on this story. Leo knew about this story breaking early last week. He has been quiet.

    I guess the first move will be a vote of no confidence next week.

    I don't think FF, FG or Green can afford an election now. The public are too angry about restrictions.

    It's a pity really because he is one of the few capable politicians in both FF and FG. Their talent pool is quite shocking now.
    He will more than likely leave politics if forced to resign.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #669
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,208 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    So in your view a Taoiseach has carte blanche to release any/all Confidential documents to whoever they see fit.
    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Ein Fuhrer Blanch?
    It doesn't work that way here.

    The law says he can, not me.


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    #670
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The law says he can, not me.
    So the Taoiseach can do solo runs?


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    #671
    Cute Hoor
    Registered Users Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The law says he can, not me.

    The pinhead dancers have been sent out from Mount St


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    #672
    foundation10
    Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭foundation10


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The law says he can, not me.


    I dont think the law intended to send confidential documents to the private home of your buddy.


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    #673
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,837 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    He's caught by the balls, goosed.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #674
    jpfahy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭jpfahy


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    I believe there is more to come on this story. Leo knew about this story breaking early last week. He has been quiet.

    I guess the first move will be a vote of no confidence next week.

    I don't think FF, FG or Green can afford an election now. The public are too angry about restrictions.

    It's a pity really because he is one of the few capable politicians in both FF and FG. Their talent pool is quite shocking now.
    He will more than likely leave politics if forced to resign.

    Capable, you must be joking!!


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    #675
    [Deleted User]
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    foundation10 wrote: »
    I dont think the law intended to send confidential documents to the private home of your buddy.

    Sometimes that would be necessary though, depending on the context. There was an overlapping personal and professional relationship in this instance. Leo would have had to communicate with loads of doctors over the years as minister for health and then taoiseach.


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    #676
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    jpfahy wrote: »
    Capable, you must be joking!!
    He is far from capable and the sooner he goes the better. I was not a fan of his predecessor Enda but he would not have done this. Those in powers of office have to be held to account.


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    #677
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Try reading the links provided by your friends before you embarrass yourself more.

    Oh blanch is on. Blanch clear it all up for us buddy. We we waiting on your return.


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    #678
    tobsey
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    foundation10 wrote: »
    I dont think the law intended to send confidential documents to the private home of your buddy.

    Did the NAGP have an office? I’m not saying they did or didn’t, but if they were a small organisation then sending it to one of the directors at an address given doesn’t seem that unusual


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    #679
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The law says he can, not me.

    Quote the law that said he could at the time?


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    #680
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    smurgen wrote: »
    Oh blanch is on. Blanch clear it all up for us buddy. We we waiting on your return.

    Please, Blanch. Some cannot read.


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    #681
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    tobsey wrote: »
    Did the NAGP have an office? I’m not saying they did or didn’t, but if they were a small organisation then sending it to one of the directors at an address given doesn’t seem that unusual


    Even though 'Private/Confidential/Not for Circulation' is written across the front of it?


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    #682
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Please, Blanch. Some cannot read.

    Come on. After Cork losing today I need a few laughs. Strange times you know. Even considering buying the Sunday Indo tomorrow for a laugh.


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    #683
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    The same lads that would be tripping over themselves to post unsubstantiated claims on a SF thread seem tongue tied here. It's just the strangest thing. :D


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    #684
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users Posts: 4,475 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    smurgen wrote: »
    Come on. After Cork losing today I need a few laughs. Strange times you know. Even considering buying the Sunday Indo tomorrow for a laugh.

    Has your dog pee'd on the floor because of Hallowen, or perhaps reading this story?? It has good soakage, despite being already full of sh1t.


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    #685
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    smurgen wrote: »
    The same lads that would be tripping over themselves to post unsubstantiated claims on a SF thread seem tongue tied here. It's just the strangest thing. :D

    Unsubstantiated:)

    Ah lads.


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    #686
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    I look forward to the defamation case by Varadkar.

    https://twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1322695260179468288?s=19


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    #687
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    smurgen wrote: »
    I look forward to the defamation case by Varadkar.

    https://twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1322695260179468288?s=19

    If this ever got to court, lots will come out that will be uncomfortable for Leo. If he knew he had done nothing wrong, he would have gotten an injunction on The Village publishing what they did.


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    #688
    [Deleted User]
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    https://villagemagazine.ie/varadkar-leaks-confidential-document/


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    #689
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Leo the leak doesn't know the days of the week.


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    #690
    Get Real
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Get Real


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The law says he can, not me.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2018/act/9/section/7/enacted/en/html

    "An Irish official who uses confidential information obtained in the course of his or her office, employment, position or business for the purpose of corruptly obtaining a gift, consideration or advantage for himself or herself or for any other person shall be guilty of an offence"

    Emphasis on "or for any other person". What section says he can do it as you claim?

    Even if the law says he can (I disagree that it does) it sets a bad precedent anyway. So future Taoisigh can WhatsApp criminal documents or applications for public tenders to their mates? Where does the acceptable red line begin for you?

    Immoral at the very least, criminal offence at worst.


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    #691
    Halenvaneddie
    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Halenvaneddie


    Bye bye leaky Leo Thatcher


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