Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - Read OP for Mod Warnings

walus · 28-10-2020 05:48PM

rob316 wrote: »

People hoarding cash does nothing for the economy. If 70% of people are better off that means 70% of people have spent less than usual which is not good obviously.

Yet another evidence that the economy can’t be doing great.

Don't Chute! · 28-10-2020 05:58PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1028/1174494-asti-ballot/

I see our wonderful “teachers” are at it again. They have to be the most cowardly bunch of cretins in the country. They just don’t want to teach.

road_high · 28-10-2020 06:10PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1028/1174494-asti-ballot/

I see our wonderful “teachers” are at it again. They have to be the most cowardly bunch of cretins in the country. They just don’t want to teach.

Give them ALL equal pay- €350 per week if they don’t want to work. Bye bye come back when you’ve come to your senses

virginmediapls · 28-10-2020 06:11PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1028/1174494-asti-ballot/

I see our wonderful “teachers” are at it again. They have to be the most cowardly bunch of cretins in the country. They just don’t want to teach.

Or, you know, they don't think they should have to put their lives in danger.

What an honestly awful, blinkered take on the situation.

road_high · 28-10-2020 06:13PM

walus wrote: »

Yet another evidence that the economy can’t be doing great.

People are terrified- what do they do when that happens? They Save!
Consumer confidence is the most precious intangible in an economy that there is. It’s understandably being obliterated. I find myself holding back and not spending too (there’s nothing to spend it on anyhow bar existing).

Cyrus · 28-10-2020 06:13PM

virginmediapls wrote: »

Or, you know, they don't think they should have to put their lives in danger.

What an honestly awful, blinkered take on the situation.

how many teachers have died from covid 19 contracted in a work enviroment?

road_high · 28-10-2020 06:14PM

virginmediapls wrote: »

Or, you know, they don't think they should have to put their lives in danger.

What an honestly awful, blinkered take on the situation.

“Lives in danger” Jesus the drama- dont leave the house ever again if you don’t want to do that- top tip for you

CruelSummer · 28-10-2020 06:14PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1028/1174494-asti-ballot/

I see our wonderful “teachers” are at it again. They have to be the most cowardly bunch of cretins in the country. They just don’t want to teach.

Unfair comment. The teachers have gone back to school and done a super job in the first 8 weeks in my opinion, despite some members of the public and busy body Karen’s on Facebook doing their best to try & find a fault with it. They’re looking for quicker test & trace results so as to continue teaching. They’ve been asking for this for 8 weeks. That’s the secondary teachers union also, some members teaching multiple levels would meet up to 300 different students a day, without social distancing. It’s a fair request & should be given. Many of them could be out for up to a week or more waiting for the test referral, then test & result. They will run out of subs if this keeps up into December.

normanoffside · 28-10-2020 06:15PM

virginmediapls wrote: »

Or, you know, they don't think they should have to put their lives in danger.

What an honestly awful, blinkered take on the situation.

Lives in danger?

Our second wave has already peaked and schools were opened the past 9 weeks and I Have yet to hear of any Teacher who's life has been in danger.

If It had happened you'd be sure to have heard of it.

normanoffside · 28-10-2020 06:18PM

road_high wrote: »

Give them ALL equal pay- €350 per week if they don’t want to work. Bye bye come back when you’ve come to your senses

The €350 is for those who lost their jobs due to restrictions.

Teachers haven't lost their jobs so should be put on the €203.
Afaik you can't claim job seekers if you quit your job for the first 9 weeks so they'll actually have to do without any income until after Xmas.

FintanMcluskey · 28-10-2020 06:21PM

Simon Harris on Newstalk guaranteeing college students that normality will definitely resume before they finish college.

His word is worthless of course

Cyrus · 28-10-2020 06:22PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Simon Harris on Newstalk guaranteeing college students that normality will definitely resume before they finish college.

His word is worthless of course

before they finish next year, or before they finish a 3 year degree :pac:

walus · 28-10-2020 06:26PM

road_high wrote: »

People are terrified- what do they do when that happens? They Save!
Consumer confidence is the most precious intangible in an economy that there is. It’s understandably being obliterated. I find myself holding back and not spending too (there’s nothing to spend it on anyhow bar existing).

I agree, especially in a consumption driven global economy. I was saving like mad since 2017 knowing damn well that the recession was on the way. Waiting now for a good opportunity to spend. The value isn’t there yet.

Cyrus · 28-10-2020 06:35PM

walus wrote: »

I agree, especially in a consumption driven global economy. I was saving like mad since 2017 knowing damn well that the recession was on the way. Waiting now for a good opportunity to spend. The value isn’t there yet.

spend on what?

FrStone · 28-10-2020 06:36PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1028/1174494-asti-ballot/

I see our wonderful “teachers” are at it again. They have to be the most cowardly bunch of cretins in the country. They just don’t want to teach.

I disagree. At someone who is constantly arguing for a reduction in restrictions, I think the ASTI have all our interests at heart.

They are highlighting how the HSE has not managed to get test and trace working properly. Kids in classrooms have a high level of close contacts, so should be prioritised for testing.

Then again everyone should be able to get a test result back in 24 hours and closer contacts notified in 36 hours at least... The shambles that is the HSE couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. I'm delighted the teachers are calling them out publicly.

Don't Chute! · 28-10-2020 06:50PM

virginmediapls wrote: »

Or, you know, they don't think they should have to put their lives in danger.

What an honestly awful, blinkered take on the situation.

Lives in danger!! Would you give me a ****ing break!

walus · 28-10-2020 06:52PM

Cyrus wrote: »

spend on what?

Does not matter, as long as it is at right price relative to risk. Stocks, properties, ...

But with the money printing going on right now the value could be still 2 years away. I’m happy to sit and wait.

RoryMac · 28-10-2020 06:54PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Unfair comment. The teachers have gone back to school and done a super job in the first 8 weeks in my opinion, despite some members of the public and busy body Karen’s on Facebook doing their best to try & find a fault with it. They’re looking for quicker test & trace results so as to continue teaching. They’ve been asking for this for 8 weeks. That’s the secondary teachers union also, some members teaching multiple levels would meet up to 300 different students a day, without social distancing. It’s a fair request & should be given. Many of them could be out for up to a week or more waiting for the test referral, then test & result. They will run out of subs if this keeps up into December.

If they had stuck to H&S demands I think they'd have massive support but tacking on the pay dispute will cost them I think

uli84 · 28-10-2020 06:54PM

Hah can’t believe it, worse **** than in March/April.
From Lidl. Aldi is the same

Since the Government’s announcement outlining the new Level 5 restrictions, we have taken a number of steps to ensure we are fully compliant with the new regulations. We immediately cancelled the advertisement of all non-essential items and removed these items from our website. Unfortunately some of these items will still appear in our weekly leaflet, which has been printed a number of weeks in advance and we apologise to customers who are left disappointed by this.

We will not be putting on sale any items that are deemed non-essential – e.g. Christmas decorations, casual clothing and toys. We are also in the process of removing from sale any residual stock of previous non-essential promotions. We will continue to sell items that are classed as essential e.g. for upkeep of residence and businesses, safety clothing, repair and maintenance of cars and bikes etc in our middle aisles.

Don't Chute! · 28-10-2020 06:57PM

FrStone wrote: »

I disagree. At someone who is constantly arguing for a reduction in restrictions, I think the ASTI have all our interests at heart.

They are highlighting how the HSE has not managed to get test and trace working properly. Kids in classrooms have a high level of close contacts, so should be prioritised for testing.

Then again everyone should be able to get a test result back in 24 hours and closer contacts notified in 36 hours at least... The shambles that is the HSE couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. I'm delighted the teachers are calling them out publicly.

Oh yeah how very altruistic of them.

CruelSummer · 28-10-2020 06:59PM

normanoffside wrote: »

The €350 is for those who lost their jobs due to restrictions.

Teachers haven't lost their jobs so should be put on the €203.
Afaik you can't claim job seekers if you quit your job for the first 9 weeks so they'll actually have to do without any income until after Xmas.

The attitude of some people in this country to teachers is pathetic. Put your money where your mouth is, volunteer to sub in a school & let’s see would you be calling for a quicker test & trace system. Oh and work your ass off for the children who so badly need to be in school & then read nasty posts like the above on boards from individuals who most likely wouldn’t set foot inside a school if you paid them.

CruelSummer · 28-10-2020 07:01PM

RoryMac wrote: »

If they had stuck to H&S demands I think they'd have massive support but tacking on the pay dispute will cost them I think

They wouldn’t to be honest, usual crowd shouting about teachers who didn’t do a tap with them over the lockdown themselves, despite being on the PUP and having nothing else to do.

RoryMac · 28-10-2020 07:12PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

They wouldn’t to be honest, usual crowd shouting about teachers who didn’t do a tap with them over the lockdown themselves, despite being on the PUP and having nothing else to do.

Well some of their demands open them up to questioning, free laptops for students and teachers and a 2 day window to comply!

It's a bit nonsensical tbh

CruelSummer · 28-10-2020 07:16PM

RoryMac wrote: »

Well some of their demands open them up to questioning, free laptops for students and teachers, guaranteed full time contract for returning teachers and a 2 day window to comply!

It's a bit nonsensical tbh

These are long standing issues in teaching, especially Secondary.
The laptops are because in the previous lockdown, a family of 3 were sharing one laptop. It didn’t work. Many schools do not provide their teachers with a laptop, in this day & age. It’s not good enough. The full time contract relates to secondary substitutes - they can’t get them. Would you take a job in a secondary school giving you just 10 hours per week spread out across a few days? That’s what they’re being offered currently. Don’t forget this 10 hour per week job has to pay the bills also.

RoryMac · 28-10-2020 07:33PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

These are long standing issues in teaching, especially Secondary.
The laptops are because in the previous lockdown, a family of 3 were sharing one laptop. It didn’t work. Many schools do not provide their teachers with a laptop, in this day & age. It’s not good enough. The full time contract relates to secondary substitutes - they can’t get them. Would you take a job in a secondary school giving you just 10 hours per week spread out across a few days? That’s what they’re being offered currently. Don’t forget this 10 hour per week job has to pay the bills also.

Yes the failure by the Gov to prepare for remote/blended schooling is a disgrace and along with the H&S aspects of the ballot I have no real issue with this. The 2 day deadline is a joke though.

On the part in bold again there should be more teachers to bring down class sizes but there are plenty of workers that have to do small bits of work here and there to try and find something more permanent. I'm not sure why teachers should be any different as a rule. Maybe I'm missing something and open to correction.

Tacking on the age old pay dispute is a mistake though

paw patrol · 28-10-2020 07:56PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

The attitude of some people in this country to teachers is pathetic. Put your money where your mouth is, volunteer to sub in a school & let’s see would you be calling for a quicker test & trace system. Oh and work your ass off for the children who so badly need to be in school & then read nasty posts like the above on boards from individuals who most likely wouldn’t set foot inside a school if you paid them.

Other sectors are risking the virus for their pay. no complaints only delighted to work some for measly wages.

If teachers refuse to do their jobs they should be on the PUP (and that's being generous) no other sector is refusing to work - please name one other lobby group or sector that isn't desperate to work - I'll bet teachers will still demand full pay if the schools close. there is a huge disconnect there , you cant deny that.

Haven't even mentioned the 6 month break from march- sept either

Don't Chute! · 28-10-2020 08:09PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

They wouldn’t to be honest, usual crowd shouting about teachers who didn’t do a tap with them over the lockdown themselves, despite being on the PUP and having nothing else to do.

Well at least we know what you do for a living. I’m an essential worker and have been working through this whole thing in an industry where my life can ACTUALLY be at risk at times. My wife is working from home full time. What is my daughter going to do if these people refuse to work? Btw what are you doing for the mid-term? “Lesson plans” or something? With the teachers it’s ALWAYS about the teachers.

s1ippy · 28-10-2020 08:32PM

Lol

Richard Hillman · 28-10-2020 08:36PM

Mícheal Martin needs to take some testosterone supplements, lift some weights, man up and tell NPHET to go suck a lemon, we're going back to Level 3

FintanMcluskey · 28-10-2020 08:48PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Mícheal Martin needs to take some testosterone supplements, lift some weights, man up and tell NPHET to go suck a lemon, we're going back to Level 3

MM will need kryptonite supplements to stop Tony

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - Read OP for Mod Warnings