Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Wolf359f · 27-10-2020 04:59PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Well this is promising!

That's quite a substantial drop if it's correct.

Non solum non ambulabit · 27-10-2020 04:59PM

Last 3 days swabs

535
738
922

GazzaL · 27-10-2020 05:00PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

That's quite a substantial drop if it's correct.

Level 3 worked m8.

Stheno · 27-10-2020 05:00PM

Mike3549 wrote: »

Got a nasty cut to my hand today, that required stitching. Are you saying they werent allowed to desinfect a wound and do stitching until they get a negative result? What about car accidents? Are doctors allowed to save a life without it?

I specifically said admitted patients, not someone going to a and e for a few stitches

Eod100 · 27-10-2020 05:00PM

Interesting detail here: ''The Irish government is pushing to have a rapid testing regime up and running by next month to ensure that friends and families can travel to visit their loved ones this Christmas.'' Looking like whatever level it will be for Christmas, government hoping it will involve people being able to fly to visit family. Presumably means any county restrictions on travel will be lifted or suspended at least too.

https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-testing-protocol-5245869-Oct2020/?utm_source=shortlink

MerlinSouthDub · 27-10-2020 05:01PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Last 3 days

535
738
922

Very promising trend. Low number of tests yesterday (11,435) but + rate = 4.68%. Boggles, do you still think the reproductive rate is 1.3?

Non solum non ambulabit · 27-10-2020 05:01PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

That's quite a substantial drop if it's correct.

All here

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/f6d6332820ca466999dbd852f6ad4d5a_0/

Stheno · 27-10-2020 05:01PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Level 3 worked m8.

I agree but with the no household visit restriction added on

blowitupref · 27-10-2020 05:02PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Last 3 days swabs

535
738
922

Fingers crossed those numbers continue to decline.

Boggles · 27-10-2020 05:02PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Very promising trend. Low number of tests yesterday (11,435) but + rate = 4.68%. Boggles, do you still think the reproductive rate is 1.3?

I never said I thought anything.

The Chair of NPHET said it.

You seem to be constantly confused by that fact.

Wolf359f · 27-10-2020 05:05PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Level 3 worked m8.

Took far too long for Dublin, and we also had household restrictions mixed in with level 3 also.
Be a tough one to work out what done what.

I'm sure people will assume it's the schools closed for a few days as the reason for the rapid decline!

Non solum non ambulabit · 27-10-2020 05:05PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Very promising trend. Low number of tests yesterday (11,435) but + rate = 4.68%. Boggles, do you still think the reproductive rate is 1.3?

Yes, plus i don't think there is much of a backlog as we have announced 1900 cases over days with around 1700 swabs. We went into the weekend with a 200 backlog which seems to be accounted for now.

I am expecting case numbers in the 500s today

Great site here.

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

Thanks to Shane Hastings

27-10-2020 05:06PM

Mike3549 wrote: »

Got a nasty cut to my hand today, that required stitching. Are you saying they werent allowed to desinfect a wound and do stitching until they get a negative result? What about car accidents? Are doctors allowed to save a life without it?

We are talking admission as an in-patient? patient will be isolated in single rooms. Pathways would be set up for emergency situations such as cardiac arrest/major trauma.

seamus · 27-10-2020 05:06PM

For the last 3 days: 41,471 tests completed, 2,200 positive swabs. 5.3% positivity over the 3 days

Breakdown:

Sunday: 15,772 test, 927 positive, 5.88%
Monday: 14,264 test, 738 positive, 5.17%
Today: 11,435 tests, 535 positive, 4.68%

7-day positivity rate now stands at 5.71%

Obviously this is all good news, and there doesn't seem to have been much impact from the reduced lab capacity on Saturday & Sunday. Today's number is to be viewed cautiously though. A sudden drop in swab numbers by 30%, may mean that we've missed some and the positivity rate is lower than it should be.

The case announcement tonight should be interesting either way.

At present we're on track for a 4% positivity rate on 31st October, 7-day average at that point could be 4.5%

By then it's going to be squeaky bum time for NPHET and the Government about whether they've overplayed their hands. Only the hospital and deaths stats over the next 14 days will tell the whole story.

rob316 · 27-10-2020 05:06PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Last 3 days swabs

535
738
922

Level 3 plus ban on household mixing seemed to be working, pity the government couldn't hold tough and not bend to NPHET's media pressure.

Benimar · 27-10-2020 05:06PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Yes, plus i don't think there is much of a backlog as we have announced 1900 cases over days with around 1700 swabs. We went into the weekend with a 200 backlog which seems to be accounted for now.

I am expecting case numbers in the 500s today

I actually think it will be lower. Backlog is cleared, so no surprises to come. 450ish I'd say

caveat emptor · 27-10-2020 05:07PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The Dublin hospital I know of tests ALL admissions and this is policy, previously stated by CMO and deputy CMO that all admissions should be tested. All awaiting a test result are classified as suspected covid in HSE reports until swab result comes back.

The closest you'll get is HPSC data on the likely source of infection. This lists the numbers under hospital acquired as probable source.

Many of us raised hospital acquired infection a good while ago and we were essentially dismissed on questioning the hospitalised numbers by a few posters on here. Labelled tin foil hat yet the data raised the question, now here we are with you asking the same question as some of us did a good while ago.

Nobody was saying oh nobody is going to hospital with covid, the question was why hospital acquired continued to be high, resulting in days where there should have been a net decrease but there was an increase. Subsequently news emerged on hospital outbreaks.

It was quite obvious the numbers at times didn't add up.

I'm aware of what they said but what they say should happen and what actually happens can be quite different due to 'operational constraints'. Two posters here in two different regions claiming that not everyone is test on admittance warrants the question at least.

As regards outbreaks. They are happening. I raised the issue all the way through. We have the highest proportion of Health care workers infected as a proportion of total in the world probably. That's a scandal or it's other countries aren't testing as much or they have better PPE. Answer probably lies somewhere in the middle.

Yeah hopefully we get an answer. Some people are using the fact that the numbers don't add up to suggest that covid is not as deadly or as serious as the figure of those 'hospitalised' includes those who get it while in there for something else.

The figures need to be clarified. The hospitalisation rates ini other countries are extremely consistent. As always we add half a pound of tuppenny rice, half a pound of treacle mix it up and make it nice. Therefore nobody can make any conclusion on the figures.

iamwhoiam · 27-10-2020 05:08PM

I dont know why but Covid has really got to me today . Its just so damn restrictive , I miss wandering in the library and I miss bringing the children there . I miss the freedom to visit my daughter in UK and I miss the freedom of choices

I just feel really peed off today with the while damn thing

stephenjmcd · 27-10-2020 05:08PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

All here

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/f6d6332820ca466999dbd852f6ad4d5a_0/

Forgive my ignorance here but what are we to look at ?

Could be because I'm on my phone and not a laptop that I'm not seeing it correctly

caveat emptor · 27-10-2020 05:10PM

seamus wrote: »

.....

Obviously this is all good news, and there doesn't seem to have been much impact from the reduced lab capacity on Saturday & Sunday. Today's number is to be viewed cautiously though. A sudden drop in swab numbers by 30%, may mean that we've missed some and the positivity rate is lower than it should be.

The case announcement tonight should be interesting either way.

By then it's going to be squeaky bum time for NPHET and the Government about whether they've overplayed their hands. Only the hospital and deaths stats over the next 14 days will tell the whole story.

It looks great. I'd agree with the being cautious though given we texted 2000 people and told them to do their own contact tracing. Wonder what kind of effect that would have on figures?

eigrod · 27-10-2020 05:10PM

seamus wrote: »

For the last 3 days: 41,471 tests completed, 2,200 positive swabs. 5.3% positivity over the 3 days

Breakdown:

Sunday: 15,772 test, 927 positive, 5.88%
Monday: 14,264 test, 738 positive, 5.17%
Today: 11,435 tests, 535 positive, 4.68%

7-day positivity rate now stands at 5.71%

Obviously this is all good news, and there doesn't seem to have been much impact from the reduced lab capacity on Saturday & Sunday. Today's number is to be viewed cautiously though. A sudden drop in swab numbers by 30%, may mean that we've missed some and the positivity rate is lower than it should be.

The case announcement tonight should be interesting either way.

At present we're on track for a 4% positivity rate on 31st October, 7-day average at that point will be 4.5%

By then it's going to be squeaky bum time for NPHET and the Government about whether they've overplayed their hands. Only the hospital and deaths stats over the next 14 days will tell the whole story.

GP referrals will have been low given the BH weekend, so numbers over the next 2 days likely to be a little higher, but hopefully Thursday & Friday will be <500.

prunudo · 27-10-2020 05:10PM

Hope those low numbers aren't as a result of the track and trace falling apart last week. Fingers crossed they're genuine and a sign of things to come for the rest if the week.

Downlinz · 27-10-2020 05:10PM

rob316 wrote: »

Level 3 plus ban on household mixing seemed to be working, pity the government couldn't hold tough and not bend to NPHET's media pressure.

Level 3 didn't achieve a reduction in Dublin or Donegal after 3 weeks and with hospitals approaching breaking point it would have been stupidly reckless to persist. It's much better they took extra actions than risk us facing into what Belgium and France are enduring now.

Just Saying · 27-10-2020 05:12PM

The trend is interesting to say the least.

It is possible that Level 3 would have worked but the trends in those counties which entered Level 3 first would not back that up.

I think it more likely that the initial recommendation of Level 5 on that Sunday evening from NHPET refocused people on what was needed to suppress the virus.This then had the effect of Level 3 being more effective than heretofore.

I know personally that I became more careful with the knowledge that we were entering a critical stage.

Stheno · 27-10-2020 05:12PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I dont know why but Covid has really got to me today . Its just so damn restrictive , I miss wandering in the library and I miss bringing the children there . I miss the freedom to visit my daughter in UK and I miss the freedom of choices

I just feel really peed off today with the while damn thing

I think we all have days like that. Its the never endingness of it, with no finish line in sight for me

Hopefully we'll get some good news about vaccines soon and there will be an end in sight however long it takes

Take care

OwenM · 27-10-2020 05:13PM

Downlinz wrote: »

Level 3 didn't achieve a reduction in Dublin or Donegal after 3 weeks and with hospitals approaching breaking point it would have been stupidly reckless to persist. It's much better they took extra actions than risk us facing into what Belgium and France are enduring now.

Irish hospitals are quieter than ever:

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1320379523637104641

CIARAN_BOYLE · 27-10-2020 05:13PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

It looks great. I'd agree with the being cautious though given we texted 2000 people and told them to do their own contact tracing. Wonder what kind of effect that would have on figures?

1400 missed cases, 11k missed tests but that would have been Monday to Thursday last week most likely and we should have caught quiet a number of them anyway as people did their contact tracing.

Im hoping the journalists ask where the sting in the tail for these figures are. We've seen daily testing as high as 19k a day so 41k over 3 days feels like there's a breakdown somewhere.

We shall see though.

tigger123 · 27-10-2020 05:14PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I dont know why but Covid has really got to me today . Its just so damn restrictive , I miss wandering in the library and I miss bringing the children there . I miss the freedom to visit my daughter in UK and I miss the freedom of choices

I just feel really peed off today with the while damn thing

Think everyone has days like that sometimes. I had it myself yesterday; it won't last forever though!

Non solum non ambulabit · 27-10-2020 05:14PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance here but what are we to look at ?

Could be because I'm on my phone and not a laptop that I'm not seeing it correctly

Probably need a laptop as the tables are hard to navigate.

US2 · 27-10-2020 05:14PM

Amirani wrote: »

My partner is a doctor in the Mater admitting patients every day.

No source so

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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