Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

23-10-2020 10:06PM

speckle wrote: »

back in spring at the height of it a eldery couple I know..one had a suspected heart attack the other a stroke.. both received the best of care.. less beds then...higher cases hospitalised and on ICU... so whats changed if other countries to go by less influenza expected. Only difference I can see is no private hospitals onboard. That is a HSE/Nephet/government decision.

It's not. The staff off is far greater now than back in March. Community transmission is to blame. You are deluded if you think that the HSE chose community transmission as a coping strategy.

Strumms · 23-10-2020 10:06PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

That is determined by our actions.

1000%

We need to rely on expertise to provide a vaccine and other help, medical and so on, rest is on US

SleetAndSnow · 23-10-2020 10:07PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Holohan unable to give a date when we'll have infections under control.

12th of Never it is so.

How's he supposed to do that when for all he knows there could be a massive rave in some gaff in the back ass of nowhere that spreads to every part of the country. It's really up to the people and how they behave and interact with eachother.

tobefrank321 · 23-10-2020 10:07PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

That is determined by our actions.

10% of people at least will always do their own thing regardless. Unless you imprison that 10% they are not going to follow advice or public health guidance.

This is the real world. We're not China where you can be dragged off to an isolation centre if you test positive or don't follow the rules. We're also not Sweden where 99.9% follow guidance.

is_that_so · 23-10-2020 10:07PM

MelbourneMan wrote: »

He is a terrific communicator alright. Quite aside from the detail and quality of the advice being provided to the government, much of this battle will be won or lost by the level of trust, communication, and leadership shown by those providing expert advice that is predominantly beyond the full understanding of those who must change their lives. And having someone who can convey the message with such judgment and authority is a very strong benefit in the favour of Ireland's handling of the crisis.

If it's still beyond the understanding of some then he's not a good communicator, none of them are!

manniot2 · 23-10-2020 10:08PM

he amazingly said that icu capacity didnt matter. what matters is locking people up. thats fine in a country of fooking idiots like this.

is_that_so · 23-10-2020 10:10PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

How's he supposed to do that when for all he knows there could be a massive rave in some gaff in the back ass of nowhere that spreads to every part of the country. It's really up to the people and how they behave and interact with eachother.

I don't expect anything on that at all until about 18 November but I'm not optimistic about what will be said then or on Dec 1 and still see it being extended into December.

Funsterdelux · 23-10-2020 10:10PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

When a vaccine is found it will almost certainly be in the form of a suppository. A large suppository.

You're shïtting me?

is_that_so · 23-10-2020 10:12PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

10% of people at least will always do their own thing regardless. Unless you imprison that 10% they are not going to follow advice or public health guidance.

This is the real world. We're not China where you can be dragged off to an isolation centre if you test positive or don't follow the rules. We're also not Sweden where 99.9% follow guidance.

It's always been about most people doing most things right. Then you support that with the testing system.

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 10:12PM

I just can't believe no-one is questioning the reduction in testing in nursing homes. It should be increased not reduced.
Blaming Joe Soap for nursing home infections is just pure deflection, ironically they are using those deaths to blame the public.

Sweet.Science · 23-10-2020 10:13PM

Nothing more assuring than a rich clown on RTE calling people on the bread line patriotic

Couldn't make this **** up

CruelSummer · 23-10-2020 10:13PM

Why has Dr Ciara Kelly’s twitter account been deleted?

23-10-2020 10:14PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Why has Dr Ciara Kelly’s twitter account been deleted?

You imply somebody apart from her? What's your point?

Miike · 23-10-2020 10:15PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Why has Dr Ciara Kelly’s twitter account been deleted?

She made a spectacle of her self on Twitter and deleted her account.

KrustyUCC · 23-10-2020 10:15PM

manniot2 wrote: »

bribery with xmas..it never ends. what happened to bribing us to get the schools open. what next, easter?

St Patricks Day

prunudo · 23-10-2020 10:15PM

froog wrote: »

are you for real? you're blaming checkpoints for where we are now??

Yes enforcement, lack of checkpoints for the first 3 weeks of Dublins lockdown until surrounding counties came in line.

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 10:15PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Nothing more assuring than a rich clown on RTE calling people on the bread line patriotic

Couldn't make this **** up

Close down your business, give up your job, don't see your friends. Don't laugh, don't play sports, don't have any fun.

Patriot

speckle · 23-10-2020 10:15PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's not. The staff off is far greater now than back in March. Community transmission is to blame. You are deluded if you think that the HSE chose community transmission as a coping strategy.

Welll first I think you should look to the hospital staff all be it a small minority that bresk restrictions, social distances etc outside of work hours. As different posters here have pointed out or is that a taboo subject?

I did not mention in my post anything about the hse choosing ct as a coping stratgey. Dont misinterprate my post. I was pointing out yet again, another scaremongerong post which does not help the situation

suicide_circus · 23-10-2020 10:15PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Nothing more assuring than a rich clown on RTE calling people on the bread line patriotic

Shockingly patronising

Santy2015 · 23-10-2020 10:16PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Why has Dr Ciara Kelly’s twitter account been deleted?

A lot of snowflakes probably got her shut down as she talks sense the majority of the time about COVID! Probably the now celebrity GP O’Thuathail reporting her....

wirelessdude01 · 23-10-2020 10:18PM

Miike wrote: »

She made a spectacle of her self on Twitter and deleted her account.

That's a regular occurrence so what happened this time?

Did she not pull her usual victim card this time?

23-10-2020 10:18PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Close down your business, give up your job, don't see your friends. Don't laugh, don't play sports, don't have any fun.

Patriot

Nobody wants this to happen but if your kid can't get treated for meningitis, you'd be whinging too about the "failin' ailin"' HSE.

tobefrank321 · 23-10-2020 10:18PM

Its mostly complete idiots who have been behind the recent increase in numbers. Clowns celebrating junior b/intermediate/senior club titles. Clowns turning up in meat factories with symptoms and bosses refusing sick leave. And people returning from abroad and not bothering to isolate or going to parties despite feeling unwell.

Its very difficult to prevent these kinds of idiots doing whatever they please.

suicide_circus · 23-10-2020 10:18PM

Miike wrote: »

She made a spectacle of her self on Twitter and deleted her account.

What did she say?

CruelSummer · 23-10-2020 10:20PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You imply somebody apart from her? What's your point?

Ok, She questions our lockdown strategy and 3 days later her account is gone? She made valid points & twitter or whoever is forcing her to delete the account should be called out on this. You might not agree with her views - but her points are valid and should be heard.

s1ippy · 23-10-2020 10:20PM

Miike wrote: »

She made a spectacle of her self on Twitter and deleted her account.

Bahaha thanks for breaking the excellent news.

https://twitter.com/RummHammm/status/1318851263405215745?s=20

Abusesurvivor · 23-10-2020 10:20PM

tjdaly wrote: »

Clean your own house you filthy dawg.

Thanks - helpful...Have just seen a few working in neighbours’ houses yest/today while they were out doing their (non) essential jobs.

CruelSummer · 23-10-2020 10:21PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

What did she say?

https://twitter.com/ntbreakfast/status/1318457274839584768?s=21

She made very valid points on why she doesn’t think lockdowns are the way to go.

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 10:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Nobody wants this to happen but if your kid can't get treated for meningitis, you'd be whinging too about the "failin' ailin"' HSE.

What? The failing is the HSE, not people's behaviour.

We've spent €25bn+ on our response to this and lost multiple more in economic damage. Yet all we get for our €25bn is 30 extra ICU beds.

Shortage of staff even though 1000's volunteered and came back to ireland but only a few were employed.

Whose fault is this? the HSE or Joe Soap?

Miike · 23-10-2020 10:22PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

A lot of snowflakes probably got her shut down as she talks sense the majority of the time about COVID! Probably the now celebrity GP O’Thuathail reporting her....

She talks a lot of sense? To who?

She repeatedly used the words of Dr. David Nebarro outside of the context which they were applied. Stating that NPHET are 'flying in the face of the WHO' by locking down against 'their' recommendations, when that is not what we've done at all. Dr. Nebarro stated lockdown is not indicated as a primary measure of controlling the spread of COVID19 - Which Ireland has not done. Nebarro was talking about the lockdown you'll see in China where doors of apartments were WELDED shut by police to stop people going outside or the Australian approach of lengthy periods of lockdown despite evidence of 'low' (subjectively) community spread or Mediterranean countries taking similar approaches.

She made a spectacle of her self and realised that.

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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