Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - Read OP for Mod Warnings

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 08:20PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

Late late show, tony, tubridy! I just threw up in my mouth a little!

Springsteen is on it too and they are labelling it 'The Battle of the Bosses' FFS

https://www.thejournal.ie/sofa-watch-late-late-bruce-springsteen-5241792-Oct2020/

Idbatterim · 23-10-2020 08:24PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Springsteen is on it too and they are labelling it 'The Battle of the Bosses' FFS

https://www.thejournal.ie/sofa-watch-late-late-bruce-springsteen-5241792-Oct2020/

the actual bruce springsteen or does someone working in the canteen have the name "springsteen"?

23-10-2020 08:24PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Springsteen is on it too and they are labelling it 'The Battle of the Bosses' FFS

https://www.thejournal.ie/sofa-watch-late-late-bruce-springsteen-5241792-Oct2020/

Seriously? What the FCUK is wrong with this country?? People made celebrities when they were responsible for dozens of women now battling Cervical cancer. And some no longer even with us. Such an insult to the husbands and families of those women tonight.

Jim_Hodge · 23-10-2020 08:25PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Came across the guards parked up by the side of the road yesterday and today but they weren't stopping anyone, I wonder do they also reckon the jig is up and people just won't take it anymore.

You're lucky. Over an hour's delay on the M1 yesterday morning . Even our small rural road had 10 to 15 minute delays today and roving checkpoints on roads being used to bypass the main checkpoint.

end of the road · 23-10-2020 08:25PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

yeah. far too much attention is being directed at tony, I get why he is a lightning rod for a lot of criticism, but the entire farce, dereliction of duty, turning the nphet meetings into a media circus etc. its all on MM and Varadkar...

I think there is going to be SERIOUS backlash to all of this, that will kick in properly over the near year or so, when it becomes apparent! do you remember the recession last time round, the garda saying he was feeding his kids cereal several times a day! The hysteria will be back, this time, fully supported, by many of the prolockdown morons, who actually just cant see where this is all going!

Their version of solidarity?! ask them all to take a 5% income reduction, be it in welfare or salary! 5%, what do you reckon this "all in this together" bull**** looks like then? the absolute hypocrites! they wouldnt take one percent I reckon!

The INSANE amounts the multinations brings in, allows the circus here, its a serious golden goose. but it wont pay for the insane amount they are now borrowing and idiotic plan of open > lockdown > open! I know the retribution is going to hit the politicians and many of those who are now pro lockdown, when they actually realise, the hit to living standards this is going to result in. You cant teach it to these idiots, they need to be shown and they will! give it a bit of time! The credit card is being maxed to hide it all, that wont last too long, not at this rate!

you've lost, anything and everything is against you.
you are in a minority, those of us who understand that these restrictions are necessary will never have our minds changed and no amount of ranting will change that.
they are the least worst option to protect the country then throwing open the doors and the whole lot actually going.
it's over for you, the sooner you deal with this reality the better it will be for you.

Idbatterim · 23-10-2020 08:29PM

end of the road wrote: »

you've lost, anything and everything is against you.
you are in a minority, those of us who understand that these restrictions are necessary will never have our minds changed and no amount of ranting will change that.
they are the least worst option to protect the country then throwing open the doors and the whole lot actually going.
it's over for you, the sooner you deal with this reality the better it will be for you.

neither of us have a crystal ball, I strongly reckon my scenario will play out and you, yours. Lets give it another two and re-evaluate then! Although I think the whole open > lockdown > open thing will be thrown out far quicker than that as an option. Time will reveal all!

Jim_Hodge · 23-10-2020 08:29PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

the amount of stuff you still have to touch on an every day basis is ridiculous! I was on luas earlier, can they not just open all of the doors at a stop? endless doors going into out and out of shops that have to be touched. often you have to touch the sanitiser dispensers...

in aldi and lidl not having self service checkouts, it just increases the interaction and handling of everything! i wouldnt expect them in tiny shops, but do think they should be far more widespread...

You do realise that you have sanitised your hands after touching the dispenser?

I'm as careful as any but you need to relax and let your sanitising protocols do their job.

Idbatterim · 23-10-2020 08:35PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You do realise that you have sanitised your hands after touching the dispenser?

I'm as careful as any but you need to relax and let your sanitising protocols do their job.

please understand, I have ZERO concerns about this virus and myself, I am just pointing out, the sheer amount of contact that happens, needlessly...

retro:electro · 23-10-2020 09:00PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So Tony is on the late late tonight? I hope it’s not all just about Covid. I hope they ask him how he feels about young women dying of cancer due to failings of the screening process and his attempts to cover up same.

This would be incredible but alas it will never happen. Can’t have d people turning against Tony and what he stands for. Has he ever answered any questions in relation to his part in this?

Graces7 · 23-10-2020 09:04PM

road_high wrote: »

But if you think the current “strategy” is living? Its simply ostrich in sand stuff- Regardless if you’re considered more vulnerable you’ll still be abiding by the same pre cautions.
If you think it’s sustainable for everyone to stay locked up while we inanely wait for a vaccine then you’re sadly mistaken

No one is locked up. let alone " everyone".

Yes it is living unless your idea of that is narrow minded. Life for many is be very full and enjoyable. And safe.

Your last sentence is interesting.

We are being asked simply to reduce contacts so that less people are infected. Which is perfectly reasonable and sensible . And no one of course said anything about this being " waiting for a vaccine. "

Reducing contacts is vital if we are to reduce infections , disabling illness and deaths, especially of old folk whose life span is already limited and thus to whom every day is precious.

Stay safe! Stay well! Stay strong! Stay home!

_Kaiser_ · 23-10-2020 09:10PM

retro:electro wrote: »

This would be incredible but alas it will never happen. Can’t have d people turning against Tony and what he stands for. Has he ever answered any questions in relation to his part in this?

Tubridy certainly won't be asking about it. It'll be all about why the restrictions are essential along with covering Tony H's wife and what she's going through, which should be a personal and private thing, not for Tubridy/the LL to fill their "personal misery" slot.

It'll be intended to make Tony H relatable and his decisions justifiable, but I doubt it'll go down well with the families of the women who died in the last controversial matter he was involved with.

Antares35 · 23-10-2020 09:13PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You do realise that you have sanitised your hands after touching the dispenser?

I'm as careful as any but you need to relax and let your sanitising protocols do their job.

While this is true, it relies on shops to actually use proper sanitiser. You know, one that smells of alcohol and evaporates fairly quickly. Some of the sticky, questionable shíte that's been coming out of some of those dispensers lately is worrying.

retro:electro · 23-10-2020 09:15PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Tubridy certainly won't be asking about it. It'll be all about why the restrictions are essential along with covering Tony H's wife and what she's going through, which should be a personal and private thing, not for Tubridy/the LL to fill their "personal misery" slot.

It'll be intended to make Tony H relatable and his decisions justifiable, but I doubt it'll go down well with the families of the women who died in the last controversial matter he was involved with.

I’ve every sympathy with Tony and what he’s going though and it can’t be easy. That said, he presided over one of the most high profile health scandals of our nation, yet he is never questioned about this lest we put him in an uncomfortable position and cause public support to dwindle. I find this offensive and patronising. I’m sorry but what about the discomfort he has caused many women up and down the country, being reckless with their lives and wanting to slap an NDA on Vicky Phelan when she was due in court wanting answers for why she is dying and leaving a young family behind. It’s ridiculous. He is as answerable as the next and shouldn’t be treated like a super god when he has caused so much upset and tried to cover it up. This is the man who has the health of our country in the palm of his hands. With his checkered past, the power he has and the unquestionable position he holds, its not right.

Antares35 · 23-10-2020 09:16PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Covid will likely be here permanently. I imagine very few have any desire to continue “living “ like this. It’s not sustainable either.

The way I see the things, an elderly person May have limited life span as they already enjoyed many great years.

Now don’t be selfish and let us enjoy ours.

What about sick children with life limiting conditions?

I really think your post is morally reprehensible.

_Kaiser_ · 23-10-2020 09:16PM

Graces7 wrote: »

No one is locked up. let alone " everyone".

Yes it is living unless your idea of that is narrow minded. My life here is like many others, very full and enjoyable. And safe.

Your last sentence is interesting.

We are being asked simply to reduce contacts so that less people are infected. Which is perfectly reasonable and sensible . And no one of course said anything about this being " waiting for a vaccine. "

Reducing contacts is vital if we are to reduce infections , disabling illness and deaths, especially of old folk whose life span is already limited and thus to whom every day is precious.

Stay safe! Stay well! Stay strong! Stay home!

It's easy for someone like yourself to quote soundbites as, as you remind us regularly, you live on an island in a small isolated community on a pension. You're a literal outlier in this situation.

It's not so easy for those who still rely on work or their business to make ends meet, and who are struggling financially, socially and mentally as a result of restrictions being imposed on them for something that presents little to no risk to the vast majority of them or those they come into contact with.

Absolutely should you "stay safe, stay well, stay strong and stay home" - but the rest of us need to be able to get on with things with as little interference as possible - if for no other reason to allow you to continue to live in safety.

Idbatterim · 23-10-2020 09:17PM

Dont dare put tony under pressure, but its fine for him to be recommending screwing up other peoples lives no questions asked. In no other country in the world, is there this level of cowardice in the media...

snowcat · 23-10-2020 09:22PM

Was out today, saw lots of the vulnerable cohort breaking the lockdown out walking shopping etc. We (the under 60's)are making a massive sacrifice in terms of our freedoms and economic health to help these subset. The least anyone could do who is over 60 is to isolate or cocoon. We should be looking at fines for these people if they break the lockdown. A mask is not an excuse to go shopping. It does not prevent transmission of Covid as we are learning slowly.

23-10-2020 09:25PM

Antares35 wrote: »

What about sick children with life limiting conditions?

I really think your post is morally reprehensible.

Don’t believe we’ve had any deaths in that demographic.

My post is the truth. We are all only visitors on this planet. Make the most of the time you have.

Don’t expect others to sacrifice things for your own well being.

aziz · 23-10-2020 09:25PM

Idbatterim wrote: »

the actual bruce springsteen or does someone working in the canteen have the name "springsteen"?

One of the Springsteen’s that run a chipper in Cabra,their mother drove a Corolla

CruelSummer · 23-10-2020 09:34PM

snowcat wrote: »

Was out today, saw lots of the vulnerable cohort breaking the lockdown out walking shopping etc. We (the under 60's)are making a massive sacrifice in terms of our freedoms and economic health to help these subset. The least anyone could do who is over 60 is to isolate or cocoon. We should be looking at fines for these people if they break the lockdown. A mask is not an excuse to go shopping. It does not prevent transmission of Covid as we are learning slowly.

I don’t think that is realistic or fair if I’m honest. Many people over 60 are fit & healthy. Many have a lot more life left to live. I don’t think this should be a debate of old v young. It’s no-one’s fault who Covid affects. I’m happy to take precautions like masks, distancing, etc, if it allows that age group to function. I also think those people you’re seeing are taking a calculated risk, and should be allowed to do so. Many of them have lived through far worse than this and find the cocooning term torturous.
I don’t think the lockdown is anyone’s fault. It’s a very poor strategy & now we’re an outlier in Europe. What really boiled my blood this week was, not only were we lumped with another lockdown. They also failed miserably to protect nursing homes once again - despite this fiasco happening in April. That is simply not good enough.

bush · 23-10-2020 09:34PM

snowcat wrote: »

Was out today, saw lots of the vulnerable cohort breaking the lockdown out walking shopping etc. We (the under 60's)are making a massive sacrifice in terms of our freedoms and economic health to help these subset. The least anyone could do who is over 60 is to isolate or cocoon. We should be looking at fines for these people if they break the lockdown. A mask is not an excuse to go shopping. It does not prevent transmission of Covid as we are learning slowly.

Are you for real? You expect someone over 60 to lock themselves up at home.

snowcat · 23-10-2020 09:38PM

bush wrote: »

Are you for real? You expect someone over 60 to lock themselves up at home.

Yes. There is a lockdown. Who is dying from this illness? This is costing 1.5 billion. Nphet have called a lockdown and we need to enforce it to protect the vulnerable.

bush · 23-10-2020 09:41PM

snowcat wrote: »

Yes. There is a lockdown. Who is dying from this illness? This is costing 1.5 billion. Nphet have called a lockdown and we need to enforce it to protect the vulnerable.

Next time you see then tell them to go home

Flyer1 · 23-10-2020 09:41PM

tjdaly wrote: »

Excuse my French, but walking around town today it appeared that the vast body of people out there couldn't give a flying phuck about this lockown.

Couldn't have written it better myself. People were always going to make their own minds up anyway. The argument was gone the second they let the GAA tip along. Thats all anyone seems to say that I have met out.

uli84 · 23-10-2020 09:42PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You're lucky. Over an hour's delay on the M1 yesterday morning . Even our small rural road had 10 to 15 minute delays today and roving checkpoints on roads being used to bypass the main checkpoint.

Oh where on m1 was that?

snowcat · 23-10-2020 09:42PM

bush wrote: »

Next time you see then tell them to go home

I did but they told me to tell the young people to go home.

bucketybuck · 23-10-2020 09:43PM

Graces7 wrote: »

We are being asked simply to reduce contacts so that less people are infected. Which is perfectly reasonable and sensible .

I wonder if the hundreds of thousands of people summarily dumped out of work consider it to be just that simple?

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 09:44PM

Ryan's questions are making me more furious than Tony's responses

tjdaly · 23-10-2020 09:45PM

snowcat wrote: »

Was out today, saw lots of the vulnerable cohort breaking the lockdown out walking shopping etc. We (the under 60's)are making a massive sacrifice in terms of our freedoms and economic health to help these subset. The least anyone could do who is over 60 is to isolate or cocoon. We should be looking at fines for these people if they break the lockdown. A mask is not an excuse to go shopping. It does not prevent transmission of Covid as we are learning slowly.

Wow this is a new low. But admittedly it is such a weirdo perspective that it did make me chuckle.

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 09:45PM

Ryan: If we'd listened to you 2 weeks ago would we have avoided the Nursing home outbreaks?

How about: If you'd kept testing nursing homes weekly instead of fortnightly would we have avoided the Nursing home outbreaks?

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