Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

mloc123 · 22-10-2020 06:33PM

s1ippy wrote: »

It's unrelated to schools, as you pointed out in a weirdly triumphant way, I was just posting it here because it was said in the briefing.

But at the same time, schools are driving the case numbers right? Despite the age group with no school going contact having by far the highest rate of infection

Antares35 · 22-10-2020 06:33PM

s1ippy wrote: »

NPHET can only advise the government based on the data, government is insisting that schools stay open. The HSE's test and trace system is at beyond full capacity now. NPHET are apolitical so can't give the actual opinion if it directly contradicts what the government demands. They/HSE also seem to only disclose information as permitted by government. It is in their best interest to play ball and they likely also take on board the fact that society won't be able to function without schools open, plus the "mental health" angle is something they also purport to consider.

Every other country in the world has issues with school transmission. Given the wealth of evidence that there is inadequate testing, tracing and the information being disclosed by the HSE doesn't tally with the information gathered and released by parents and staff in the schools, I can't understand how anyone would still think that there isn't a glaring oversight where schools are concerned.

It's because schools in Ireland are special magical places where transmission is impossible because you know...pods and stuff.

eagle eye · 22-10-2020 06:33PM

Deleted User wrote:

That would be at odds with Garda ethos: go for the softest targets to achieve quotas and give real criminals a wide berth as that would require strenuous effort.

I think that's a bit unfair.

Why don't you sign up and do the job how you think it should be done?

Beanybabog · 22-10-2020 06:33PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Can you imagine if they actually had to test all the close contacts in every classroom with a case? There are 30 individuals in many classes. Some attend multiple classes in a day. You might as well ask them to test every person in the country under 18 because at this stage there's probably a case in almost every community in the country.

Also if children aren't in school people can't go to work. If people can't go to work there's no money. You surely know all this.

I went for a test today with my kids and the man taking our details told me they're very busy with kids, including an entire class of 30ish in yesterday for a test.

mloc123 · 22-10-2020 06:34PM

Blondini wrote: »

Wouldn't be that unusual in Finglas..

:pac: I'll give you that

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:34PM

mloc123 wrote: »

But at the same time, schools are driving the case numbers right? Despite the age group with no school going contact having by far the highest rate of infection

Where are you getting that from? Who are you arguing with?

Pete_Cavan · 22-10-2020 06:34PM

froog wrote: »

as much as people hate NPHET right now, you can't fault the amount and frequency of data they give us. does any other country get updates like that?

Can't fault the data? As of yesterday total cases was 53,422. Today we have 1,066 new cases both the total cases is now 54,476. 12 cases disappeared, closing in on 100 such cases for this month alone. Its only small as a proportion of the total but why do we have such numbers of incorrect positive cases being reported after all these months? Adjust the methodology and give accurate figures, don't just carry on with a system which requires the data to be modified almost every day.

mloc123 · 22-10-2020 06:34PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Sometimes Zara King sounds like she’s reporter for Newsround (or whatever the kid’s news is these days). Just asked Tony if people should go back to Zoom quizzes :rolleyes:

What about the weddings?

prunudo · 22-10-2020 06:35PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

If they tried that, they'd have zero credibility. Off license sales were happening in the summer. Personally, I don't think they'd offer that as an explanation.

Personally I don't believe they have any credibility as it is. Remember its 3 weeks today that Glynn said it was all good at level 2 and no need for extra restrictions.
They've now jumped 3 levels, lost control of track and trace and the many nursing homes and hospital on the brink.

branie2 · 22-10-2020 06:35PM

Cases are going down

mloc123 · 22-10-2020 06:36PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Where are you getting that from? Who are you arguing with?

I don't even know anymore

I hear brain fog is a symtom now also, I should get tested

Sierra Oscar · 22-10-2020 06:37PM

20,986 new cases in Spain today which is a new record, again. When we compare ourselves to the situation across the EU we are doing well.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1319326887353659400

flanna01 · 22-10-2020 06:37PM

Essential workers eh....??

Local bathroom tile man staying open...?

All manufacturing businesses staying open, even the fella's making plastic paddle boats..?

Schools, Schools, Schools....... Our local School - St pink Elephant's is going full steam.. Should see the students at dinner time.. Spot the face covering... Not!!

The Lockdown farcical... Absolute Joke!

Arghus · 22-10-2020 06:38PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Sometimes Zara King sounds like she’s reporter for Newsround (or whatever the kid’s news is these days). Just asked Tony if people should go back to Zoom quizzes :rolleyes:

I've come round to thinking Zara serves a purpose: she asks dumb questions that a lot of people feel like asking.

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:38PM

Beanybabog wrote: »

I went for a test today with my kids and the man taking our details told me they're very busy with kids, including an entire class of 30ish in yesterday for a test.

Terrible and also a relief to hear that full classes are being tested.

The hoops my teaching colleagues have had to jump through to get public health in several instances to do their due diligence would make your skin crawl.

Hope yourself and your family are doing well and I've my fingers crossed you'll get a negative result.

I got a negative test today after being very unwell all weekend. Turnaround time from GP call to result was 4 days.

mloc123 wrote: »

I don't even know anymore

I hear brain fog is a symtom now also, I should get tested

I'd say you're alright, my head is absolutely melted from it all as well so it's going around

DeanAustin · 22-10-2020 06:38PM

prunudo wrote: »

Personally I don't believe they have any credibility as it is. Remember its 3 weeks today that Glynn said it was all good at level 2 and no need for extra restrictions.
They've now jumped 3 levels, lost control of track and trace and the many nursing homes and hospital on the brink.

That’s fair comment actually. The push to move from 2 to 5 within three days made them look stupid to me. Either Holohan has too much power or the others were asleep at the wheel.

Either way, if numbers stay high with everything closed and they tell us schools aren’t contributing, they’ll be a complete laughing stock.

ChikiChiki · 22-10-2020 06:38PM

I'm sorry Dr Tony but optimising the operation of our public health system should have been a priority since the 1st of June.

That simply has not happened.

Seamai · 22-10-2020 06:39PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

2000 hospitalisations ****ing hell - equivalent of 154 new hospitalisations in a day here, that's unbelievable. It seems almost too high to be true

That's frightening, three quarters of the French population are under curfew from 9pm tonight.

Roger_007 · 22-10-2020 06:39PM

Dr Tony is telling us that:
- we must all behave for the next six weeks as if we are ‘close contacts’.
- close contacts must self-isolate.

Therefore we must all self-isolate for the next six weeks.

Have I got that right?

Eod100 · 22-10-2020 06:40PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Sometimes Zara King sounds like she’s reporter for Newsround (or whatever the kid’s news is these days). Just asked Tony if people should go back to Zoom quizzes :rolleyes:

Thought it was a fair question in context of people being asked to stay home and not socialise for 6 weeks. Presume CMO happy to emphasise alternative ways of socialising than meeting in person

manofwisdom · 22-10-2020 06:40PM

Jim_Hodge · 22-10-2020 06:40PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Dr Tony is telling us that:
- we must all behave for the next six weeks as if we are ‘close contacts’.
- close contacts must self-isolate.

Therefore we must all self-isolate for the next six weeks.

Have I got that right?

More or less, yes.

froog · 22-10-2020 06:41PM

"school's grand shurrup"

- NPHET

c.p.w.g.w · 22-10-2020 06:41PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

Sometimes Zara King sounds like she’s reporter for Newsround (or whatever the kid’s news is these days). Just asked Tony if people should go back to Zoom quizzes :rolleyes:

Zara is no more a "Journalist" than i'm a professional sports star

fritzelly · 22-10-2020 06:42PM

Lot of propaganda being spewed over school cases in that briefing

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:43PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Zara is no more a "Journalist" than i'm a professional sports star

She's a journalist in the same way that Phil Taylor is an athlete.

Tony's waffle is doing a number on my data.

fritzelly wrote: »

Lot of propaganda being spewed over school cases in that briefing

I can't believe Zara didn't call her out on not answering the question asked the way she did with Tony a minute ago.

Roger_007 · 22-10-2020 06:45PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

More or less, yes.

So, we must all isolate ourselves even from others in our own households?

JimToken · 22-10-2020 06:46PM

Teachers ,Medics and Nursing Home Staff are dropping out of the system faster than they can be replaced.

We've taken a relatively harmless virus and invented a terrible cure for it

Jizique · 22-10-2020 06:46PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Theres more than 1 DCMO

Typical civil service

Miike · 22-10-2020 06:46PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

So, we must all isolate ourselves even from others in our own households?

Did you watch a different briefing to me or are you being specifically obtuse?

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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