Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

BringBackMick · 22-10-2020 06:17PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

41,622 new cases in France today.

https://twitter.com/redouad/status/1319326694281564167

Wow they are indeed big figures.

JP100 · 22-10-2020 06:19PM

Cody montana wrote: »

Things improving!

Hardly. Today's numbers have seen the national 14-day incidence rate exceed 300 per 100,000 of the population for the very first time.

JimToken · 22-10-2020 06:20PM

We're heading for trouble with Hospital and Care Home Staff..

Our efforts to suppress the virus means that large numbers of staff are put out of service when they are most needed

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:20PM

1 in 250 19-24 year olds are infected.

ACitizenErased · 22-10-2020 06:20PM

Nolan’s on about the positivity rate but showing a graph that quite clearly has dropped over the past few days

DeanAustin · 22-10-2020 06:20PM

s1ippy wrote: »

NPHET can only advise the government based on the data, government is insisting that schools stay open. The HSE's test and trace system is at beyond full capacity now. NPHET are apolitical so can't give the actual opinion if it directly contradicts what the government demands. They/HSE also seem to only disclose information as permitted by government. It is in their best interest to play ball and they likely also take on board the fact that society won't be able to function without schools open, plus the "mental health" angle is something they also purport to consider.

Every other country in the world has issues with school transmission. Given the wealth of evidence that there is inadequate testing, tracing and the information being disclosed by the HSE doesn't tally with the information gathered and released by parents and staff in the schools, I can't understand how anyone would still think that there isn't a glaring oversight where schools are concerned.

If schools are a major contributor to the numbers it'll surely become apparent over the next 6 weeks given little else is open.

froog · 22-10-2020 06:21PM

as much as people hate NPHET right now, you can't fault the amount and frequency of data they give us. does any other country get updates like that?

22-10-2020 06:21PM

Is Ronan Glynn no longer the deputy CMO ?

ACitizenErased · 22-10-2020 06:22PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is Ronan Glynn no longer the deputy CMO ?

Theres more than 1 DCMO

suicide_circus · 22-10-2020 06:23PM

s1ippy wrote: »

1 in 250 19-24 year olds are infected.

How many in hospital

froog · 22-10-2020 06:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is Ronan Glynn no longer the deputy CMO ?

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:23PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

If schools are a major contributor to the numbers it'll surely become apparent over the next 6 weeks given little else is open.

Well they're on mid term for the next week from Friday, but with this very loose level five we're in, it will just mean that most children are visiting their cousins and friends from the road instead of their classmates, increasing the spread of the transmission that's out there. :l

CIARAN_BOYLE · 22-10-2020 06:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Nolan’s on about the positivity rate but showing a graph that quite clearly has dropped over the past few days

But it's grown since last week. He only talks about these models every week.

eigrod · 22-10-2020 06:24PM

I would imagine Ronan Glynn is on Annual Leave. He clearly had no leave from February through to October.

ChikiChiki · 22-10-2020 06:24PM

froog wrote: »

as much as people hate NPHET right now, you can't fault the amount and frequency of data they give us. does any other country get updates like that?

You would wonder why the **** RTE in 2020 cannot split the screen with 3/4 graph and Nolan speaking in the corner and a bullet pointed synopsis of the information for people to absorb or a banner. Similar to what Coumo did.

The data is good but the presentation of it to viewers is shambolic.

RTE are absolutely useless. As we speak I'm squinting at the TV behind Nolan to see the info.

ACitizenErased · 22-10-2020 06:25PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

But it's grown since last week. He only talks about these models every week.

Talking about it growing while showing a graph with it dropping. Right. Communication and that.

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:25PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

How many in hospital

Nolan just said for every thousand in the under 45 category, 12 will be hospitalised and 1 will end up in ICU.

babyboom · 22-10-2020 06:26PM

My son's year (TY) were sent home early today as the school was so short staffed. Only 5th and 6th years to attend tomorrow. Two teachers tested positive at the weekend. I suspect the other teachers have been identified as close contacts by the teachers themselves rather than the HSE.

DeanAustin · 22-10-2020 06:27PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Well they're on mid term for the next week from Friday, but with this very loose level five we're in, it will just mean that most children are visiting their cousins and friends from the road instead of their classmates, increasing the spread of the transmission that's out there. :l

If we are at 1,000 cases or even 500 cases per day in 6 weeks, there's no way they can argue that schools aren't a contributor to the increase we've seen since the summer.

If cases reduce substantially more than that, we'd have to believe the numbers they're giving us around school transmission.

GeorgeBailey · 22-10-2020 06:27PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Genuine question... why do people think NPHET are "suppressing school cases"? What is the pay off for them on this?

What they have to gain is their stated aim of keeping schools open. I wouldn't think they're hiding the numbers but testing in such a way that it will appear less problematic than other settings.

mloc123 · 22-10-2020 06:28PM

s1ippy wrote: »

1 in 250 19-24 year olds are infected.

All those school kids... oh, no... must be the parents of the school kids...hmmm, no... not that either :pac:

Antares35 · 22-10-2020 06:29PM

mloc123 wrote: »

In March we were told a lot of things You know that opinions and advise can change over time... right? Just like treatments for Covid, at the start everyone was to be put on ventilators... now they aren't

Your post comes across very condescending.

But why did they decide they are no longer super spreaders? And how can they make a blanket statement that "schools are safe"? Is it because kids tend to be asymptomatic so they aren't tested - giving an artificially low incidence rate?

In any event, if the rest of us do our bit while the schools remain open and numbers don't improve then I guess they will need to change their minds again

prunudo · 22-10-2020 06:29PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

If we are at 1,000 cases or even 500 cases per day in 6 weeks, there's no way they can argue that schools aren't a contributor to the increase we've seen since the summer.

If cases reduce substantially more than that, we'd have to believe the numbers they're giving us around school transmission.

It will be attributed to off license sales or some other activity that the public have taken part in.

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:30PM

mloc123 wrote: »

All those school kids... oh, no... must be the parents of the school kids...hmmm, no... not that either :pac:

It's unrelated to schools, as you pointed out in a weirdly triumphant way, I was just posting it here because it was said in the briefing.

For every thousand in 45-64 age group, there are 50 hospitalisations, 10 admitted to ICU and 3 deaths

For every thousand in the over 65s group, 180 hospitalisations, 30 admitted to ICU and 30 deaths.

One 1 in between 5k and 7k under 45s will die if they contract it.

DeanAustin · 22-10-2020 06:30PM

prunudo wrote: »

It will be attributed to off license sales or some other activity that the public have taken part in.

If they tried that, they'd have zero credibility. Off license sales were happening in the summer. Personally, I don't think they'd offer that as an explanation.

Antares35 · 22-10-2020 06:31PM

prunudo wrote: »

It will be attributed to off license sales or some other activity that the public have taken part in.

And all those grieving people attending their loved ones graves

DebDynamite · 22-10-2020 06:31PM

Sometimes Zara King sounds like she’s reporter for Newsround (or whatever the kid’s news is these days). Just asked Tony if people should go back to Zoom quizzes :rolleyes:

Blondini · 22-10-2020 06:31PM

mloc123 wrote: »

All those school kids... oh, no... must be the parents of the school kids...hmmm, no... not that either :pac:

Wouldn't be that unusual in Finglas..

s1ippy · 22-10-2020 06:31PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

If they tried that, they'd have zero credibility. Off license sales were happening in the summer. Personally, I don't think they'd offer that as an explanation.

They might get out the seismometer again like they did in the summer to measure how much we're walking around the place.

bb1234567 · 22-10-2020 06:32PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

41,622 new cases in France today.

https://twitter.com/redouad/status/1319326694281564167

2000 hospitalisations ****ing hell - equivalent of 154 new hospitalisations in a day here, that's unbelievable. It seems almost too high to be true

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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