Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Real Donald Trump · 22-10-2020 02:59PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I see the same out my window now, all very relaxed and shooting the breeze.

Meanwhile the small shop up the road who gets maybe a handful of customers every few hours can't open. If I were a SME owner i'd be wanting to tear this government a new arsehole ..

Away With The Fairies · 22-10-2020 02:59PM

giveitholly wrote: »

Heard they are staying opened because they sell work gear so they have labelled themselves essential

Haha, their website has one workwear shirt. Hope the shops have more work gear.

polesheep · 22-10-2020 02:59PM

JDD wrote: »

Your right to know to prevent having to stay home for three to four days does not outweigh that original person's right to privacy. Sorry. It just doesn't. Even if you genuinely have concerns regarding your employment.

Be honest with the contact tracer. Tell them you can't isolate or you'll lose your job, and take your leave of the conversation. I can't see many employers wanting you about when you tell them that you're a close contact, but that you're coming into work anyway.

I suspect that most of those that are arguing the toss on the phone with the contact tracers are just f*ckin nosey, and want to find out who they caught it from. They also don't want to take the test because it's uncomfortable. That's it I'd say.

There are people who won't be paid if they have to self-isolate and that is a big issue. They are already on low income and may simply not be able to afford to self-isolate. It's an indictment of what we have become as a society.

I've had the test and it isn't even what I would describe as uncomfortable. I had my teeth cleaned in the dentists yesterday and I would gladly have had ten Covid tests instead:D

jobeenfitz · 22-10-2020 03:00PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

I don't know if this should be in the TA thread in Afterhours or Cries of Coronavirus in Ranting and Raving, but getting the Salthill bus into the city centre, on the journey there and back, two couples on the bus, one sitting in the crossed off seats. OK bus was fairly empty but at the same time it bloody irks me that the couples can't sit on window seats across from each other.

Let it go, life's too short.

Morrison J · 22-10-2020 03:00PM

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

What number of cases do you guys think we will be at after 6 weeks lockdown?100 cases a day seems far fetched. I think around 600, hope I'm wrong

We need the R number at .5 to get there. Victoria in Australia had a more restrictive lockdown (closed schools etc) and only got to about .65 in that time. Doesn't bode well given we're keeping schools open.

zinfandel · 22-10-2020 03:00PM

boetstark wrote: »

Here in limerick most stores open on o connell Street and surrounding streets. Only ones closed are big name ie penny's and bt. Counted 4 pound shops open loads of people walking around

lots bending the rules, if they sell masks and sanitiser they seem good to go.
a shoe shop selling safety shoes... good to go...

jobeenfitz · 22-10-2020 03:03PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

They should be absolutely terrified, cowering in their cars for fear of catching Covid19. I still see some people doing old normal things on my way to Spar each morning and it makes me want to vomit. Laughter (more droplets) particularly annoys me during these incredibly sobering and grim times. Keeping a good eye on the neighbors anyway, in case the authorities need any details about their activities going forward.

Jesus you are taking this too far or are you working with some security force?

DrSpongeBobz · 22-10-2020 03:05PM

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Jesus you are taking this too far or are you working with some security force?

Just a regular boards poster

22-10-2020 03:06PM

Is there a Nphet briefing today?

Paddygreen · 22-10-2020 03:06PM

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Jesus you are taking this too far or are you working with some security force?

Ex FCA. I’m not enlisted atm but still have the uniform in case they need me.

22-10-2020 03:07PM

Staffwise, there seems to be a larger cohort of staff catching covid-19 than in March. Troubling for ability of HSE to resist this type of stress. I've come around to the idea that it was a huge error not bringing in level 5 two weeks ago.

Richard Hillman · 22-10-2020 03:08PM

1641 wrote: »

Is there a Nphet briefing today?

A few sore heads if there is. I'm sure they were up all night celebrating their successful coup d'etat.

CalamariFritti · 22-10-2020 03:09PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

We could be wrong. The gap between old icu new icu admissions and discharges could be something else.

People missing from the hospital maybe?:cool::pac:

Stheno · 22-10-2020 03:11PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There's 150 staff including 50 porters out sick in the CUH.

Deleted User wrote: »

Staffwise, there seems to be a larger cohort of staff catching covid-19 than in March. Troubling for ability of HSE to resist this type of stress. I've come around to the idea that it was a huge error not bringing in level 5 two weeks ago.

Are they all testing positive or self isolating due to possible exposure?

Plumbthedepths · 22-10-2020 03:11PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Ex FCA. I’m not enlisted atm but still have the uniform in case they need me.

Your country needs you. Throw on the uniform lad and search out those house parties. Shouldn't be hard found, apparently every second house is throwing one.

HildaOgdenx · 22-10-2020 03:11PM

normanoffside wrote: »

They live together, sleep together so what would them sitting separately on the bus archieve?

I presume that it is so that space is maintained between all passengers.

If two people sit together, the person on the aisle seat is nearer to the person on the seat opposite, than they would be if all passengers used the window seats.
Also for passengers leaving and boarding the bus, a bit of space is maintained.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but I presume that's why the window seats are the ones that are to be used, and not the aisle seats.

mloc123 · 22-10-2020 03:11PM

normanoffside wrote: »

They live together, sleep together so what would them sitting separately on the bus archieve?

Maybe they should buy two single beds and move them 2m apart... could be like the 1960s again :pac::pac:

Funsterdelux · 22-10-2020 03:12PM

shocksy wrote: »

Neither of them two, but one of the other stores in that shopping centre.

F*ck it. It was DV8 Fashion. I'd be interested in knowing if the rest of their stores are open around the country today.

Maybe Plumb the debts was in stacking the shelfs with PPE and work boots

Plumbthedepths · 22-10-2020 03:13PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Maybe Plumb the debts was in stacking the shelfs with PPE and work boots

I prefer you when you are being humourous, no need for smartass digs. Be nice.

22-10-2020 03:13PM

Stheno wrote: »

Are they all testing positive or self isolating due to possible exposure?

A mixture of both but things were fine on Monday and worse than they were in March now (with today been particularly bad). Still can't get through to occy health (which is a sign in of itself)

tobefrank321 · 22-10-2020 03:16PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Haha, their website has one workwear shirt. Hope the shops have more work gear.

The regulations are so daft and what's just as daft is retail owners who don't exploit loopholes.

Could never understand why "wet" pubs couldn't sell sandwiches for 9 euro just to stay open.

Or why clothes shops can't sell builders gloves, boots, shirts etc. If they even branched out and sold shovels, they'd be deemed essential!

Amirani · 22-10-2020 03:17PM

Stheno wrote: »

Are they all testing positive or self isolating due to possible exposure?

Hospital clinical staff only have to self isolate until they get a negative test result (which are same day or next day in hospital). They don't have to remain home for 14 days like other close contacts.

Graces7 · 22-10-2020 03:17PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Absolutely designed to fail. It will either be renewed on December 1st or else in mid January when we're back at 1200 cases a day.

Meanwhile they can't be arsed providind staff to nursing homes where the problems are, increase ICU capacity significantly and tracking is a joke.

The problem is that Irish trained nurses and doctors tend to leave the country as soon as they are qualified and work abroad. So there are not enough left

If they stayed to serve the country that trained them?
Even for a few years?

Also large numbers of health care staff off sick with covid.

Wondering too about the privately - owned nursing homes? Do they recruit their own staff?

fits · 22-10-2020 03:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A mixture of both but things were fine on Monday and worse than they were in March now (with today been particularly bad). Still can't get through to occy health (which is a sign in of itself)

This is hard to hear. Yes I think the delay in level 5 is looking like a huge mistake.

Funsterdelux · 22-10-2020 03:19PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I prefer you when you are being humourous, no need for smartass digs. Be nice.

Ah theres always the odd dig here and there.

I'll get the expert to apologise

Im this much sorry

Widdensushi · 22-10-2020 03:21PM

Graces7 wrote: »

The problem is that Irish trained nurses and doctors tend to leave the country as soon as they are qualified and work abroad. So there are not enough left

If they stayed to serve the country that trained them?
Even for a few years?

Wondering too about the privately - owned nursing homes? Do they recruit their own staff?

Not to personal but I remember that you lived abroad or maybe are not originally Irish, it just seems to me like you have expectations of others, I don't think it would be fair not to give them the choice to see other parts of the world when young

Hellrazer · 22-10-2020 03:32PM

Theres a serious lack of compliance out there - its actually quite funny seeing all the "essential" shops open just because they sell a face mask or hand sanitizer.

However I did predict that compliance in level 5 restrictions would not be adhered to. One day in and its like theres no lock down at all!!!!

Our idiot over lords havent got it wrong again have they??

It wouldnt be the first time - case tracing failures,failure to plan for a second wave, Golfgate, 2 ministers resigning,U turns every couple of weeks, a taoiseach that doesnt even know how to speak in public (maybe hes retarded or something), A Tanaiste who just plays populist politics, a health minister who doesnt know whats going on in his department.

If i did half the **** ups this lot did Id be sacked on the spot.

These are the biggest joke of a government I have ever seen in my life.

What does it take for the electorate to call for their heads??

They just need to call a GE and get on with letting someone with half a brain manage the country and pandemic.

odyssey06 · 22-10-2020 03:33PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Not to personal but I remember that you lived abroad or maybe are not originally Irish, it just seems to me like you have expectations of others, I don't think it would be fair not to give them the choice to see other parts of the world when young

fwiw I'm Irish and I think if your training was paid for by the State, you should have to work X years in the health service, either public or private (where your taxes will be paying it back). When you consider the cost of training a doctor, it's not sustainable at the moment.

I think this happens in Canada and Australia.
If you don't want the strings, pay for the training yourself.

saabsaab · 22-10-2020 03:35PM

Regarding compliance with rules even if they are obvious written down and told to someone you will get approx 10% who won't comply. Even then you can 'talk' 8% into complying or going along but there is always a 1% or so that are a nightmare to deal with and have to be forced to leave or comply.

normanoffside · 22-10-2020 03:39PM

HildaOgdenx wrote: »

I presume that it is so that space is maintained between all passengers.

If two people sit together, the person on the aisle seat is nearer to the person on the seat opposite, than they would be if all passengers used the window seats.
Also for passengers leaving and boarding the bus, a bit of space is maintained.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but I presume that's why the window seats are the ones that are to be used, and not the aisle seats.

Ok I'll play along.
If they live together and sleep together we can assume that if one has the virus they are both likely to have the virus right?

Then by separating them they are likely to spread the virus over a wider area, especially as they'll probably end up shouting across the bus at each other.

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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