Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

SweetCaliber · 21-10-2020 01:40AM

Bought a Oculus VR Headset today, time to escape covid reality and head to virtual Hawaii for 6 weeks folks!

MOR316 · 21-10-2020 01:42AM

Question...

I have a videographer travelling 30km from Dublin to film something for me for a few hours next week. Now with the new restrictions, what happens?

We're told to work from home unless your presence is needed, which his obviously is. But, would this be seen as essential travel?

Any help on this would be appreciated because neither of us have a clue

Goldengirl · 21-10-2020 01:43AM

colly10 wrote: »

With fines of 500 for non essential travel outside 5k, what counts as essential.
In the next week, i’d like to pick up a cot cause I have a baby on the way and don’t have one, can I travel?
I bought a place and am expecting the keys in the next week, can I travel to pick them up?
When I get the keys, I’d like to travel to let in people delivering appliances so I can move in to avoid paying both rent and a mortgage, can I?

They’ve outlined the obvious but am not sure what’s considered valid other than that

Sounds all very much ok .
Just don't be having a moving in party.

s1ippy · 21-10-2020 01:46AM

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Bought a Oculus VR Headset today, time to escape covid reality and head to virtual Hawaii for 6 weeks folks!

Remember to have someone change your nappy every second day, or you might get a bad rash.

Nah in fairness I'm just raging because my switch controller just broke about two weeks out of warranty and I've to buy a new one before I can join you in zombieland. Although... work-permitting.

quokula · 21-10-2020 01:46AM

Ficheall wrote: »

Wouldn't it be nice to save at least the ~400 lives in the interim?

(guesstimate: 1000 cases+ a day, at 1% (10) deaths, times 6 weeks)

This is actually an underestimate. It was 500 per day two weeks ago, it’s over 1000 per day now. There would be no reason for the number of cases not to continue to grow at the rate they have been if we didn’t change course, meaning 1000 per day would become 2000 two weeks from now then 4000 two weeks after that. Without restrictions we could be looking at 16000 cases per day by Christmas, were the last few weeks’ growth rate to be left unchecked.

MOR316 · 21-10-2020 01:50AM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

No we’re not.
The shops are packed with food. I was in Aldi earlier today and shelves are fully stocked and fcuk all people there.Thanks to the staff and the producers and delivery drivers.long may it last.
The drama queens punched themselves out in march. The want and excitement is gone off them.
We are doing ok given what we are dealing with.
Our grandparents and the generations before went through famines and wars with food rations and lived on crumbs.
We are living like kings and queens with the best of food and the best of technology.
We have it that good,we forget how good we have it.

What?

I'm not on about food and drink, what are you talking about? "Famines" what frogs are you licking? I never once mentioned food or technology.

There was a post about the HSE and it's contact tracing failings. I was referring to that!

quokula · 21-10-2020 01:50AM

MOR316 wrote: »

Question...

I have a videographer travelling 30km from Dublin to film something for me for a few hours next week. Now with the new restrictions, what happens?

We're told to work from home unless your presence is needed, which his obviously is. But, would this be seen as essential travel?

Any help on this would be appreciated because neither of us have a clue

Nobody is being asked to stop working if they can’t work from home, so this should be fine.

bb1234567 · 21-10-2020 01:51AM

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN27528G

Almost 4000 people currently hospitalised with covid in Czech Republic , far worse already than our peak hospital strain and unfortunately for CZ doesn't look like peak has been reached yet in cases

MOR316 · 21-10-2020 01:52AM

quokula wrote: »

Nobody is being asked to stop working if they can’t work from home, so this should be fine.

Thank you from me and an "oh bollocks" from my wallet

Goldengirl · 21-10-2020 01:57AM

quokula wrote: »

This is actually an underestimate. It was 500 per day two weeks ago, it’s over 1000 per day now. There would be no reason for the number of cases not to continue to grow at the rate they have been if we didn’t change course, meaning 1000 per day would become 2000 two weeks from now then 4000 two weeks after that. Without restrictions we could be looking at 16000 cases per day by Christmas, were the last few weeks’ growth rate to be left unchecked.

Probably continue growing now unfortunately for next 2 weeks now anyhow before they stabilise / drop hopefully .
Could be up to 2000 a day before that

Happydays2020 · 21-10-2020 01:59AM

quokula wrote: »

This is actually an underestimate. It was 500 per day two weeks ago, it’s over 1000 per day now. There would be no reason for the number of cases not to continue to grow at the rate they have been if we didn’t change course, meaning 1000 per day would become 2000 two weeks from now then 4000 two weeks after that. Without restrictions we could be looking at 16000 cases per day by Christmas, were the last few weeks’ growth rate to be left unchecked.

Dublin stabilised at Level 3 in respect to growth and it had an effect in LOK previously. Seemingly Donegal is already showing a decrease in numbers and that is even before the effects of Level 4 kick in.

The only place it is going unchecked is in the school environment which is still open.

NPHET have predicted about 100 in ICU by Saturday week based on their modelling. That is set in stone as any effect of the new restrictions on behaviour will not have kicked in at that point.

Goldengirl · 21-10-2020 02:00AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN27528G

Almost 4000 people currently hospitalised with covid in Czech Republic , far worse already than our peak hospital strain and unfortunately for CZ doesn't look like peak has been reached yet in cases

Can't remember , was it there that they had the massive street party to celebrate coming out of restrictions?

Ficheall · 21-10-2020 02:15AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I think the rate is around 0.6% and probably less if the infection rate remains with younger people and vulnerable are protected. We are also not sure what would have been the effect of the Level 3 and 4 measures put in place only last week. It seems there are encouraging signs from Donegal anyway.

Have you a good link for that 0.6%? I was basing 1% off what has been happening in Ireland for the last while (while it was mostly circulating against young people, I suspect), but if you have more reliable data, I'd be interested. It sounds on the low side, even outside Ireland.

And I don't see these encouraging signs people are talking about from Donegal? A link for that would definitely be appreciated, as I'm there at the moment..

Goldengirl · 21-10-2020 02:29AM

Ficheall wrote: »

Have you a good link for that 0.6%? I was basing 1% off what has been happening in Ireland for the last while (while it was mostly circulating against young people, I suspect), but if you have more reliable data, I'd be interested. It sounds on the low side, even outside Ireland.

And I don't see these encouraging signs people are talking about from Donegal? A link for that would definitely be appreciated, as I'm there at the moment..

And Dublin apart from a couple of days of "" stability "has just continued slowly climbing .

caveat emptor · 21-10-2020 02:49AM

Starting to think like Tracey. Where's my fast car.

Happydays2020 · 21-10-2020 03:02AM

Ficheall wrote: »

Have you a good link for that 0.6%? I was basing 1% off what has been happening in Ireland for the last while (while it was mostly circulating against young people, I suspect), but if you have more reliable data, I'd be interested. It sounds on the low side, even outside Ireland.

And I don't see these encouraging signs people are talking about from Donegal? A link for that would definitely be appreciated, as I'm there at the moment..

This article refers to a consensus of 0.6% https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/04/health/coronavirus-death-rate.html . It rightfully highlights that this is dependent on many factors including demographics and health system capability.

The CDC has more recently released a series of scenarios which breakdown IFRs in demographic groups - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

Detail Irish data is available here but they do not use the IFR but rather the CFR. We all know that many went untested In the period March and April https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_(NPHET)_20201019%20_Website.pdf

The point on Donegal was comments here that numbers there have been reducing including on the figures published yesterday but I accept one or two days does not make a trend. Saying that one would expect that with all the focus on Donegal particularly a few weeks back it would start to translate to lower numbers as behaviour changed and the restrictions kicked in.

Edit -
Breakingnews.ie have one of the better maps I have seen showing the 14 day rate North and South. Tomas Doherty is the journalist and he has links to the sources and the data.

This shows that relatively speaking Donegal is no longer an outlier in terms of high numbers which indicates that the growth has slowed.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-in-ireland-latest-county-by-county-data-1021310.html

JP Liz V1 · 21-10-2020 03:03AM

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Bought a Oculus VR Headset today, time to escape covid reality and head to virtual Hawaii for 6 weeks folks!

Aloha

fritzelly · 21-10-2020 03:03AM

Just after watching PT
Is McConkey a real doctor or did he get it from an online course - every time someone asks a question of him (that other doctor tonight who speaks very well) he just pulls a furrowed brow face like he has no idea what was just asked

JP Liz V1 · 21-10-2020 03:10AM

Beanybabog wrote: »

I’m not sure, we only found out so I’m reading stuff now. I have to get me and kids tested. Apparently we had to wait for contact tracing to contact us but that’s scrapped for now, given that they’re overwhelmed. If I test positive as an asymptomatic person my contacts would only be gone back
24 hours and I’ve had zero... I kept me and kids in since oh got a cough

I hope negative and take care

Graces7 · 21-10-2020 05:16AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

If they can, get stuff delivered. If they can't a neighbour would surely help and leave the shopping at the doorstep. We do that for our neighbour when ordering our grocery shopping online, and it's grand. He can walk up to the shop to buy the paper and a lottery ticket and have a chat, but would not be able to carry shopping home. He refuses our offer of driving him there, is a bit wary of virus transmission. That's ok.

Or contact ALONE.

Also most places now have a Community Response team. They will shop, collect prescriptions etc. And An Post are asking postmen to take outgoing mail; they have allowed NO POSTAGE since the first lockdown to all cocooners within Ireland.

Give Citizens Information a call for more details and support information.

WoollyRedHat · 21-10-2020 06:53AM

Gps are being asked to refer anyone who identifies themselves as a close-contact to their practice on for a test for next 10 days or so i.e. if you haven't been contacted by public health team yet but are close contact of someone who has tested positive you can get tested.

pc7 · 21-10-2020 06:56AM

Beanybabog hope you got some sleep, try keep windows open and get your husband to clean bathroom etc after use.
Hopefully you and the kids get tested today and all will be ok. Best of luck with the results and pregnancy. Hard time to be expecting but think of those newborn snuggles x

Gruffalux · 21-10-2020 07:02AM

Czech republic. Twice our population. About same landmass. Things have escalated badly there in a matter of weeks. In the first 17 days of October same number died from covid as in previous 8 months.

FintanMcluskey · 21-10-2020 07:13AM

Gruffalux wrote: »

Czech republic. Twice our population. About same landmass. Things have escalated badly there in a matter of weeks. In the first 17 days of October same number died from covid as in previous 8 months.

They obviously didn’t have a high death rate early this year?

WoollyRedHat · 21-10-2020 07:20AM

Contact Tracing sat on a wall, Contact Tracing had a great fall; All the government's ministers and all the HSE's men, couldn't put Contact Tracing back together again.

Funsterdelux · 21-10-2020 07:24AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

They obviously didn’t have a high death rate early this year?

Yeah, they were the poster boys and girls first wave.

They brought in masks early on.

Deaths similar trend

pawdee · 21-10-2020 07:26AM

dmakc wrote: »

This won't be as autocratic as people make out. The cot is essential under caring for a child. Then use that excuse over and over again for the next few times

That's grand until she's cot.

Hellrazer · 21-10-2020 07:26AM

quokula wrote: »

This is actually an underestimate. It was 500 per day two weeks ago, it’s over 1000 per day now. There would be no reason for the number of cases not to continue to grow at the rate they have been if we didn’t change course, meaning 1000 per day would become 2000 two weeks from now then 4000 two weeks after that. Without restrictions we could be looking at 16000 cases per day by Christmas, were the last few weeks’ growth rate to be left unchecked.

How would we know there was 16000 cases per day? Or do you mean 16000 cases in the country but not tested?
We aren't doing 16000 tests a day and even if we were it would mean every single test has to come back positive.

If you mean not tested then theres probably that number out there already and more than likely higher with people with no symptoms.

See the issue with testing here??
Inaccurate and shouldn't be used to lock us down or scaremonger the population.

OscarMIlde · 21-10-2020 07:32AM

SweetCaliber wrote: »

Bought a Oculus VR Headset today, time to escape covid reality and head to virtual Hawaii for 6 weeks folks!

You will not be disappointed. We have a HTC vive in our house and it is amazing. Incredibly immersive.

EDit · 21-10-2020 07:34AM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Contact Tracing sat on a wall, Contact Tracing had a great fall; All the government's ministers and all the HSE's men, couldn't put Contact Tracing back together again.

What an utter clusterfcuk! We now have to rely on people to do their own contact tracing... I can see that working well

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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