General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

The White Wolf · 19-10-2020 05:19AM

JPA wrote: »

It's not simply that VVD is out for the season, and will be replaced be another defender.
It's the psychological blow of that, you need Klopp to keep the spirits up and to get over it quickly.

I don't know how it's managed but I'm aware some players do not train with the rest of their team if injuries mean they have to manage their fitness. Matip in particular should be wrapped up in cotton wool not doing anything too intensive.

The_Kew_Tour · 19-10-2020 07:03AM

fyfe79 wrote: »

I'd agree there. Two potential leg-breakers in one game by the same team, not sure when I've seen that last.

Neil Ruddock broke Andy Cole 2 legs in one game.

Ruddock still brags about it.

Least Cole got on with it and won few League medals and CL medal after so was not end of world

19-10-2020 07:41AM

fyfe79 wrote: »

I'd agree there. Two potential leg-breakers in one game by the same team, not sure when I've seen that last.

Every game in the 80s?

bennyineire · 19-10-2020 09:22AM

VVD will not be the last high profile injury in the Premier League, I expect a lot more all across the top 6 teams TBH, more so than usual, from now until Christmas the top 6 will be playing twice a week.

It will come down to who has the best squad and at the moment nobody comes close to Liverpool and City in the squad department and personally I think Liverpool's squad shades City's.

RasTa · 19-10-2020 09:34AM

I see my cinema is showing football again next weekend. Yet you can't go to a stadium

https://www.myvue.com/event/premier-league-west-ham-v-man-city

fyfe79 · 19-10-2020 09:42AM

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Neil Ruddock broke Andy Cole 2 legs in one game.

Yep, 25 years ago thereabouts. Though, technically, it was a single challenge, not two separate ones.

Deleted User wrote: »

Every game in the 80s?

I'd agree Conor. More like 30-40 years since we've seen such agriculturism in the English top flight.

RasTa · 19-10-2020 09:47AM

Tackles weren't that bad yesterday in real time. Don't bother judging them in slow motion. It's a man's game etc etc as Lloyd would say.

Agent Coulson · 19-10-2020 09:51AM

RasTa wrote: »

I see my cinema is showing football again next weekend. Yet you can't go to a stadium

https://www.myvue.com/event/premier-league-west-ham-v-man-city

The Liverpool derby game was shown in cinemas in Liverpool this last weekend.

Bridge93 · 19-10-2020 09:51AM

Harry Kane with 12 goal involvements in 5 games and Son with 9 is a pretty extraordinary start. Would be more but for Karl Darlow. Having both in my Fantasy draft team has certainly paid off. Spurs are rightly ****ed without them

RasTa · 19-10-2020 09:57AM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The Liverpool derby game was shown in cinemas in Liverpool this last weekend.

Manchester too, think all Vue cinemas are showing them.

Agent Coulson · 19-10-2020 09:59AM

RasTa wrote: »

Manchester too, think all Vue cinemas are showing them.

Madness then that the British Government let fans into an enclosed cinema to watch football however won't let limited fans into outdoor stadiums.

Cookiemunster · 19-10-2020 10:01AM

bennyineire wrote: »

VVD will not be the last high profile injury in the Premier League, I expect a lot more all across the top 6 teams TBH, more so than usual, from now until Christmas the top 6 will be playing twice a week.

It will come down to who has the best squad and at the moment nobody comes close to Liverpool and City in the squad department and personally I think Liverpool's squad shades City's.

VVDs injury had nothing to do with the schedule though. A horror tackle can happen at any time to any player.

Quazzie · 19-10-2020 10:06AM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Madness then that the British Government let fans into an enclosed cinema to watch football however won't let limited fans into outdoor stadiums.

It's a lot easier to control people in a cinema environment, than it is in a stadium.

8-10 · 19-10-2020 10:09AM

RasTa wrote: »

Tackles weren't that bad yesterday in real time

It's tackles the day before yesterday that were a problem

thebaz · 19-10-2020 10:09AM

Quazzie wrote: »

It's a lot easier to control people in a cinema environment, than it is in a stadium.

The virus spreads a lot more indoors - way more chance catching it indoors than out

Wuff Wuff · 19-10-2020 10:16AM

Quazzie wrote: »

It's a lot easier to control people in a cinema environment, than it is in a stadium.

is it yeah

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/nottingham-cineworld-stabbing-cinema-news-latest-injuries-a9228786.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-birmingham-star-city-incident-20945783

a fictional film about gangs in london seemed to incite multiple incidents of knife crime, imagine what a derby game will do :pac::pac:

yourdeadwright · 19-10-2020 10:16AM

The Richarlison tackle had more intent he knew exactly what he was doing , it was a real scum bags tackle,

Pickford's was really bad but for me didn't actually mean it and is just all over the shop .
I know he flung himself knee high feet first with no control but just shows how bad and cowardly a keeper he is , he literally didn't know what else to do ,

I recall a very similar tackle on Ali form Spurs but Ali was able to shift his standing leg while VVD was not ,he just seems to be wreck less and clueless how to defend his goal in these situations

JPA · 19-10-2020 10:18AM

thebaz wrote: »

The virus spreads a lot more indoors - way more chance catching it indoors than out

It's the concourses, toilets etc

kowloonkev · 19-10-2020 10:22AM

Quazzie wrote: »

It's a lot easier to control people in a cinema environment, than it is in a stadium.

When watching football? You really think so? And who is controlling them - the two teenaged ushers on minimum wage?

yourdeadwright · 19-10-2020 10:26AM

Just like clock work reports and pictures on Twitter of Matip entering hospital for a scan,

Absolute crazy they did not replace Lovren this summer and no its not hindsight we all knew Matip & Gomez would struggle to stay fit,

8-10 · 19-10-2020 10:29AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Just like clock work reports and pictures on Twitter of Matip entering hospital for a scan

https://twitter.com/ptgorst/status/1318133237223464961?s=19

Paul Gorst saying it's not true

kowloonkev · 19-10-2020 10:29AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The Richarlison tackle had more intent he knew exactly what he was doing , it was a real scum bags tackle,

Pickford's was really bad but for me didn't actually mean it and is just all over the shop .
I know he flung himself knee high feet first with no control but just shows how bad and cowardly a keeper he is , he literally didn't know what else to do ,

I recall a very similar tackle on Ali form Spurs but Ali was able to shift his standing leg while VVD was not ,he just seems to be wreck less and clueless how to defend his goal in these situations

Pickford's challenge is the result of keepers having free reign to do as much damage as they want from crosses into their box for the last two decades. The ridiculous over protection has given some of them invincibilty syndrome and the belief they can throw themselves all over the place without having to consider the safety of other players.

Loafing Oaf · 19-10-2020 10:32AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Just like clock work reports and pictures on Twitter of Matip entering hospital for a scan,

Absolute crazy they did not replace Lovren this summer and no its not hindsight we all knew Matip & Gomez would struggle to stay fit,

Can Fabinho do a job there if push comes to shove?

8-10 · 19-10-2020 10:34AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Can Fabinho do a job there if push comes to shove?

For sure. He was a right back when at Real Madrid and has played defence a few times for Liverpool

Shanotheslayer · 19-10-2020 10:37AM

From what I saw of Fab at CB he looks better than Gomez? Not to say Gomez won't get better with time but just currently.

Winji start in midfield then?

yourdeadwright · 19-10-2020 10:39AM

kowloonkev wrote: »

Pickford's challenge is the result of keepers having free reign to do as much damage as they want from crosses into their box for the last two decades. The ridiculous over protection has given some of them invincibilty syndrome and the belief they can throw themselves all over the place without having to consider the safety of other players.

Ah to be fair going for a cross and jumping legs first knee highs is a very different thing,

Sure in the 90s the big Dane Peter Schmeichel took no poisoners but was always in total control of himself,

I honestly think Pickford thinks that is what he is doing but the huge difference is Schmeichel was not afraid of getting a smack of the ball or the man so although he spread himself he remained in control and upright to remain as big as possible, Pickford was a coward flung his legs and turned side ways

Lucas Hood · 19-10-2020 10:44AM

8-10 wrote: »

For sure. He was a right back when at Real Madrid and has played defence a few times for Liverpool

Fabinho played 14 minutes in the 1 game he played for Real Madrid. Wouldn't be reading much into his time there.

Almost half the games he played for Monaco were at RB.

8-10 · 19-10-2020 10:46AM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Fabinho played 14 minutes in the 1 game he played for Real Madrid. Wouldn't be reading much into his time there.

Almost half the games he played for Monaco were at RB.

He played regularly for their reserves in Madrid, I think he played LB in that brief first team appearance.

Monaco switched him to DM when they signed Sidibe. Real brought him in as a RB was my point, he was established as a defender in Brazil before coming to Europe.

pjohnson · 19-10-2020 10:48AM

Who the hell would have thought selling Lovren would come back to haunt Liverpool.

Is there any Free Agents that could do a job? I think it was Klopp that signed Caulker for a few months a few years ago so may try to repeat it with a stop gap.

gimli2112 · 19-10-2020 10:52AM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

From what I saw of Fab at CB he looks better than Gomez? Not to say Gomez won't get better with time but just currently.

Winji start in midfield then?

Gomez is solid enough, quite happy with him. We're not playing Everton for a few months so hopefully no more unnecessary injuries.
That said it's pretty windy out and Matip breaks easily although he's currently in hospital. I'm rambling now, Saturday's game has knocked me off kilter.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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