General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

Richard Hillman · 17-10-2020 10:04PM

Pickford may be lucky that he didn't get sent off but if the Van Dijk injury is as bad as reported, he will be having a miserable time around Merseyside over the next few months.

Agent Coulson · 17-10-2020 10:12PM

Just noticed all the Chelsea players are wearing long sleeves is that to hide where the short shirt sleeve on the jersey is on the arm for VAR.

Agent Coulson · 17-10-2020 10:15PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Pickford may be lucky that he didn't get sent off but if the Van Dijk injury is as bad as reported, he will be having a miserable time around Merseyside over the next few months.

The way the North West of England is heading no one will be out and about there over the next few months to get any grief the Country will be having a miserable time.

CBear1993 · 17-10-2020 10:17PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The way the North West of England is heading no one will be out and about there over the next few months to get any grief the Country will be having a miserable time.

Keep that to the countless other threads doomsdayer

Rock77 · 17-10-2020 10:55PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me the actual rule? Is football not a contact sport? Seems like anytime there’s contact of the lower body, especially in the box, it’s a foul.

I can help with this... if the defender kicks the attacker on the shin, in the box it’s a penalty.

Doesn’t matter if the attacker was on his way down already or if he wasn’t in control of the ball or even if he had the ball in his possession!

Again, if the defender kicks the attacker on the shin.... penalty

Liamalone · 17-10-2020 11:07PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Pickford may be lucky that he didn't get sent off but if the Van Dijk injury is as bad as reported, he will be having a miserable time around Merseyside over the next few months.

#PrayFirYerManPickford death threats incoming #guaranteed

A poor outcome from a keeper trying to do his job. Pickford has been the wooping boy for an age so don't change that narrative now. He did a Pickford, no malice, no intent, just doing what he does.

beggars_bush · 17-10-2020 11:27PM

No mention of Robertson's ankle rake on Allan? today

Completely malicious tackle missed by every official and var

Rock77 · 17-10-2020 11:39PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

No mention of Robertson's ankle rake on Allan? today

Completely malicious tackle missed by every official and var

Robertson’s and Richarlison’s ‘tackles’ didn’t surprise me at all today, in my opinion both are dirty players. Pickford should have been sent off but it was more stupidity than anything else. He wasn’t even trying to tackle, he was trying to block the ball.

Quazzie · 17-10-2020 11:59PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

No mention of Robertson's ankle rake on Allan? today

Completely malicious tackle missed by every official and var

Or Mane's sneaky kick out

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 12:39AM

beggars_bush wrote: »

No mention of Robertson's ankle rake on Allan? today

Completely malicious tackle missed by every official and var

Quazzie wrote: »

Or Mane's sneaky kick out

Liverpool have never made a bad tackle ever in the game. Never in other derbies either. Everton are the worst and all they do is kick people etc etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p52WBsEYIYk

marklazarcovic · 18-10-2020 04:46AM

Are ye adults??

Just checking

This is it · 18-10-2020 06:12AM

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Are ye adults??

Just checking

#bantz

RasTa · 18-10-2020 10:14AM

Thought Pickford was MOTM after watching the MOTD last night.

giveitholly · 18-10-2020 10:35AM

So will anything happen Aguero after he putting his hand around the lineswoman? Will the FA do anything about it?

StringerBell · 18-10-2020 10:40AM

giveitholly wrote: »

So will anything happen Aguero after he putting his hand around the lineswoman? Will the FA do anything about it?

When I saw it this morning I was actually shocked since I had been led to believe it was some kind of assault or aggressive behaviour, it's not aggressive it's not like he grabbed her by the neck or pulled her or anything. It's not a good look obviously but Jesus Christ people love to be outraged on others behalf these days.

He puts his arm on her shoulder, remonstrating some point, we've seen it happen between players and linesmen/referees before and there's never an uproar. She handles it perfectly too, shrugs him off dismissively.

There really is enough to be angry at in the world without going looking for things to be up in a heap about.

RasTa · 18-10-2020 10:41AM

StringerBell wrote: »

When I saw it this morning I was actually shocked since I had been led to believe it was some kind of assault or aggressive behaviour, it's not aggressive it's not like he grabbed her by the neck or pulled her or anything. It's not a good look obviously but Jesus Christ people love to be outraged on others behalf these days.

He puts his arm on her shoulder, remonstrating some point, we've seen it happen between players and linesmen/referees before and there's never an uproar. She handles it perfectly too, shrugs him off dismissively.

There really is enough to be angry at in the world without going looking for things to be up in a heap about.

I've never seen a player grab a linesman when they weren't listening to their moaning. It's the type of crap women have to put up with daily.

giveitholly · 18-10-2020 10:43AM

StringerBell wrote: »

When I saw it this morning I was actually shocked since I had been led to believe it was some kind of assault or aggressive behaviour, it's not aggressive it's not like he grabbed her by the neck or pulled her or anything. It's not a good look obviously but Jesus Christ people love to be outraged on others behalf these days.

He puts his arm on her shoulder, remonstrating some point, we've seen it happen between players and linesmen/referees before and there's never an uproar. She handles it perfectly too, shrugs him off dismissively.

There really is enough to be angry at in the world without going looking for things to be up in a heap about.

Relax I am not one bit outraged about it,just wondering will there be anything done about it,thought you couldn't lay your hand on an official regardless of their sex

This is it · 18-10-2020 10:48AM

It was definitely over the line for me. She goes to turn/walk away and while he doesn't use any huge amount of force or anything, he does pull her back.

I hate in general the attitudes players have towards officials in football. Absolute disgrace players surrounding officials, roaring and screaming at them. Part of a larger conversation but captain only works well in rugby and I see no reason for it not to be adopted in football.

For Aguero, I've no idea what punishment he should get but there definitely needs to be something. Players need to know that this sort of thing won't be tolerated.

adox · 18-10-2020 10:50AM

Laying a hand on an official always carried the chance of a red card for as long as I remember.

StringerBell · 18-10-2020 10:51AM

RasTa wrote: »

I've never seen a player grab a linesman when they weren't listening to their moaning. It's the type of crap women have to put up with daily.

I've definitely seen players put arms around referees etc, take the gender out of it which is what your supposed to do. If he put his arm around a male official in the exact same manner would there be a word about it?

I'm all for equality, and I think these situations set it back. He didn't grab her in some aggressive manner, he shouldn't have touched her at all no argument there either to be clear, but put his hand on her and she dismissed him. She handled herself professionally and as you would expect an official to.

It's almost verging on white knight ****e tbh. I appreciate I'll surely be in the minority here and likely have my words or supposed views twisted but all I can say is from what I heard I was expecting a lot worse than what I saw.

Should he put his hand on an official? No.
Is it relevant that it's a female official? No.
He should not put a hand on any official.
Is it a very big deal? No, not for me.
Did the official conduct themselves correctly? Yes.

Quazzie · 18-10-2020 10:53AM

StringerBell wrote: »

When I saw it this morning I was actually shocked since I had been led to believe it was some kind of assault or aggressive behaviour, it's not aggressive it's not like he grabbed her by the neck or pulled her or anything. It's not a good look obviously but Jesus Christ people love to be outraged on others behalf these days.

He puts his arm on her shoulder, remonstrating some point, we've seen it happen between players and linesmen/referees before and there's never an uproar. She handles it perfectly too, shrugs him off dismissively.

There really is enough to be angry at in the world without going looking for things to be up in a heap about.

The fact is he wouldn't have done this if the lines person wasn't female. He literally only done it because it was a woman, and has been stated women put up with inappropriate touching from creeps all day. The FA should come down hard on this to let everyone know it's not ok.

StringerBell · 18-10-2020 10:53AM

giveitholly wrote: »

Relax I am not one bit outraged about it,just wondering will there be anything done about it,thought you couldn't lay your hand on an official regardless of their sex

Agreed. I think the manner in the laying of the hand will probably play a part in whether the fa do anything about it. It wasn't an aggressive movement and I would guess they will ask the official for their view of the incident too?

Could be completely wrong of course, letter of the law I'm sure they can do something to him as he put a hand on an official but context will probably decide whether or not they will.

Rock77 · 18-10-2020 10:55AM

Quazzie wrote: »

The fact is he wouldn't have done this if the lines person wasn't female. He literally only done it because it was a woman, and has been stated women put up with inappropriate touching from creeps all day. The FA should come down hard on this to let everyone know it's not ok.

It’s a fact that he only did it because it was a woman?????

StringerBell · 18-10-2020 10:55AM

This is it wrote: »

I hate in general the attitudes players have towards officials in football. Absolute disgrace players surrounding officials, roaring and screaming at them. Part of a larger conversation but captain only works well in rugby and I see no reason for it not to be adopted in football.

I agree with this 100%

RasTa · 18-10-2020 10:55AM

StringerBell wrote: »

I've definitely seen players put arms around referees etc, take the gender out of it which is what your supposed to do. If he put his arm around a male official in the exact same manner would there be a word about it?

I'm all for equality, and I think these situations set it back. He didn't grab her in some aggressive manner, he shouldn't have touched her at all no argument there either to be clear, but put his hand on her and she dismissed him. She handled herself professionally and as you would expect an official to.

It's almost verging on white knight ****e tbh. I appreciate I'll surely be in the minority here and likely have my words or supposed views twisted but all I can say is from what I heard I was expecting a lot worse than what I saw.

Should he put his hand on an official? No.
Is it relevant that it's a female official? No.
He should not put a hand on any official.
Is it a very big deal? No, not for me.
Did the official conduct themselves correctly? Yes.

I never forget anything, Di Maria got sent off for touching Oliver. Well a second yellow.

It's not a big deal for me either but you can't do that to refs. He was pissed off a woman wasn't acknowledging him. Straight red

StringerBell · 18-10-2020 10:58AM

Quazzie wrote: »

The fact is he wouldn't have done this if the lines person wasn't female. He literally only done it because it was a woman, and has been stated women put up with inappropriate touching from creeps all day. The FA should come down hard on this to let everyone know it's not ok.

That's not a fact though, that's your own opinion on it. To say he literally only "done it" because it was a woman unless you can back that up is pure speculation I'm afraid.

I'll go rewatch the entire incident again later on and see if I missed something, or can you show me something to back up what your saying?

Rock77 · 18-10-2020 11:00AM

RasTa wrote: »

I never forget anything, Di Maria got sent off for touching Oliver. Well a second yellow.

It's not a big deal for me either but you can't do that to refs. Straight red

He could well have gotten a red.

I read on social media yesterday:

‘Aguero grabs female assistant ref by the neck’

I went straight to the match report and to my surprise, no red card.

I then watched the incident and said ‘grabbed her by the neck, really’

I was expecting some anger, force, something aggressive. He put his hand on her shoulder....

osarusan · 18-10-2020 11:02AM

I actually cannot ever remember a player 'grabbing' an assistant ref in the way Aguero did. And he did grab her, it wasn't just an arm round her shoulder, it wasn't a pleading action, it was a 'wake up' action.

The nature of the contact itself wasn't a big deal really, but it does cross a barrier in terms of actually making that kind of physical contact with the officials.

Augme · 18-10-2020 11:02AM

He should have been sent off. It was a poor decision by the ref and linesman to just dismiss it. Players should never be allowed put there hands on an official when the official is trying to walk away. It sets a dangerous precedent to allow this stuff go unpunished.

osarusan · 18-10-2020 11:04AM

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General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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