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Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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  • #5372
    Jizique
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Jizique


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Nolan comes across as incredibly unlikeable tbh.
    Looks like someone who can't take no for an answer.

    He is head of Maynooth uni - not clear he ever practiced as a doctor.
    At least Lambert works at the coal face in the Mater an has been dealing with it all year so I suspect he knows what he is talking about


  • #5373
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,728 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    HeyV wrote: »
    Why won’t you call the guards?

    There is nothing they can do. No law being broken.


  • #5374
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Is a law being broken though?

    The Guards can turn up & make a recommendation (yes I know!) & there’s always public order offences.


  • #5375
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Because what can the guards do?

    They'll pop around for a look. Make it uncomfortable for the people there and the home owner.

    Shouldn't really be happening tbh


  • #5376
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Ellie2008 wrote: »
    Serious question - why not?!

    Gardai more than likely won't act as they've zero powers.


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  • #5377
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Is a law being broken though?

    I was joking ffs. Christ above people calling the guards on their neighbors for trying to enjoy something small in a very tough world. Life is short and nobody knows what is around the corner, for many it’s far worse than Covid that could be coming.


  • #5378
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,646 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    KaneToad wrote: »
    There is nothing they can do. No law being broken.

    People don’t realise that the restrictions are only public health advice not laws.

    That’s why the Ryanair case a few weeks ago was a kick in the face to those who cancelled holidays under the illusion of legality.

    The restrictions are “moral laws” enforced by social media vigilantes


  • #5379
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Jizique wrote: »
    He is head of Maynooth uni - not clear he ever practiced as a doctor.
    At least Lambert works at the coal face in the Mater an has been dealing with it all year so I suspect he knows what he is talking about

    He’s a maths guy I thought?


  • #5380
    HeyV
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭HeyV


    KaneToad wrote: »
    There is nothing they can do. No law being broken.

    There is to be no household visits... why should they get away with it?


  • #5381
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    manniot2 wrote: »
    I was joking ffs. Christ above people calling the guards on their neighbors for trying to enjoy something small in a very tough world. Life is short and nobody knows what is around the corner, for many it’s far worse than Covid that could be coming.

    Ah c’mon. Throwing a house party at the moment is just plain selfish.

    It’s a joke that we are moving to Level 4/5 & the Guards don’t have proper power to enforce the current restrictions.


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  • #5382
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    We will be stuck with restrictions as long as people continue to have uncontrolled indoor gatherings. We should do what Australia did 5k fine if you are organizer of party and €500 fine for every person in attendance. God knows we need the money!


  • #5383
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,154 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Well HSE website says visors are ok. Their website is a joke. They recognise the dangers of a mask with those valves but don't recognize the danger with visors.

    Sorry late reply .
    As far as I am concerned the only place for a visor to be used is as well as a mask with full PPE for any procedure that might cause aerosolisation , eg suctioning a Covid patient !
    Absolute nonsense people wearing them walking around shopping centres .
    May as well just put a Tupperware bowl on your head , for all the use it does .
    Catches spittle I hear people saying ..what about all the bits you can't see in tiny aerosols floating up towards your mouth and nose ..yeuch !


  • #5384
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    I'd say someone will ring them as I've seen 2 more taxis arrive and this family don't tend to be the "let's pack it in at 12pm" type.


  • #5385
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    On the topic of panic buying. Was in SV Ballincollig today. The amount of alcohol going through the tills was huge. You could see the likes of pasta and tinned foods were at low levels too.

    I suspect people are thinking along the lines of off licenses and supermarkets being told too close the alcohol sections early.... I’d doubt that will happen but you just don’t know!!


  • #5386
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    HeyV wrote: »
    Why won’t you call the guards?

    Nothing they can do.

    No laws being broken


  • #5387
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    HeyV wrote: »
    There is to be no household visits... why should they get away with it?

    Its not a penal provision. Nothing Gardai can do about it.

    Its advice only


  • #5388
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Jizique wrote: »
    He is head of Maynooth uni - not clear he ever practiced as a doctor.
    At least Lambert works at the coal face in the Mater an has been dealing with it all year so I suspect he knows what he is talking about
    According to Wikipedia he was an intern in Vincents for 1 year. Not exactly an experienced epidemiologist.


  • #5389
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Sorry late reply .
    As far as I am concerned the only place for a visor to be used is as well as a mask with full PPE for any procedure that might cause aerosolisation , eg suctioning a Covid patient !
    Absolute nonsense people wearing them walking around shopping centres .
    May as well just put a Tupperware bowl on your head , for all the use it does .
    Catches spittle I hear people saying ..what about all the bits you can't see in tiny aerosols floating up towards your mouth and nose ..yeuch !

    In some universities, advice is visor screens can be worn in labs. Utterly ridiculous.


  • #5390
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    On the topic of panic buying. Was in SV Ballincollig today. The amount of alcohol going through the tills was huge. You could see the likes of pasta and tinned foods were at low levels too.

    I suspect people are thinking along the lines of off licenses and supermarkets being told too close the alcohol sections early.... I’d doubt that will happen but you just don’t know!!
    did you not hear the supermarkets are closing, it's armageddon


  • #5391
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Its not a penal provision. Nothing Gardai can do about it.

    Its advice only

    If I was the owner of a shop that may sell me closed next week, I’d have a serious issue with the government failing to properly legislate for this sort of thing & then ****ting my fully compliant business.


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  • #5392
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    I'd say someone will ring them as I've seen 2 more taxis arrive and this family don't tend to be the "let's pack it in at 12pm" type.

    Even if they do, absolutely nothing they can do


  • #5393
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    A doctor in north cork getting the virus now!


  • #5394
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    According to Wikipedia he was an intern in Vincents for 1 year. Not exactly an experienced epidemiologist.

    Lambert seems more likeable personally, doesn’t make him right though


  • #5395
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Ellie2008 wrote: »
    Lambert seems more likeable personally, doesn’t make him right though

    But he has earned the right to be listened to I think


  • #5396
    Ellie2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    But he has earned the right to be listened to I think

    Absolutely agree


  • #5397
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Ellie2008 wrote: »
    Lambert seems more likeable personally, doesn’t make him right though
    To be honest I'd tend to lean towards listening to doctors in hospitals versus fellas using predictions, due to simple experience.
    For all we know there could be doctors in the HSE who are happy with the workload, after developing clear treatment strategies and with better ideas for what should be done.
    All we're hearing right now is statistical predictions and facts. There's a time where stats should take the back seat and real experiences should come to the front.


  • #5398
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Ellie2008 wrote: »
    The Guards can turn up & make a recommendation (yes I know!) & there’s always public order offences.

    Public order offence in a private house?


  • #5399
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,553 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Public order offence in a private house?

    In response to a noise complaint maybe?


  • #5400
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Jizique wrote: »
    He is head of Maynooth uni - not clear he ever practiced as a doctor.
    At least Lambert works at the coal face in the Mater an has been dealing with it all year so I suspect he knows what he is talking about

    https://www.maynoothuniversity.ie/presidents-office/biography
    He practiced medicine for a short time, but having become involved in research and teaching as a student, was drawn to an academic career. He earned a PhD for his research on the control of breathing and the cardiovascular system during sleep. He has a strong track record in research that includes publications in leading international journals and a number of prestigious awards received as a young researcher,


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  • #5401
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Public order offence in a private house?

    Affray is the only one I can think of.


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