Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

bennyl10 wrote: »

All reports are saying level 4 is going to be implemented with some changes

That needs a cabinet meeting

Gael23 wrote: »

What sort of changes?

There are no levels at this point, the plan is long gone, it's just a series of ad hoc things strung together represnting whatever today's stream of consciousness is.

They'll just go and edit the level 4 "plan" again, put most of level 5 into it, and then announce we're going to level 4 and we should think ourselves lucky it's not 5.

The media will then all announce we're at level 4, write 15 clickbait articles detailing the new level 4 measures, with nobody calling out the government and asking what happened to the plan they spent months preparing, with supposedly clearly thought out criteria for what would trigger a change between levels, and suitable restrictions at each level for dealing with those defined situations. Which went out the window the first time they used it.

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Can you source that claim. Worldometers say 864 serious cases (our 29 series cases is icu) but serious cases doesn't equal icu for all countries.

Could it be that serious cases is hospitalised cases or total icu admissions rather than active cases?

The total day to day cases don't seem worse than ours.

No, I was just taking it off worldometers. For most countries such as Ireland, UK, Italy , USA, Israel and countless others the serious/critical figure eems to mean ICU specifically

Maybe for Moldova it's counted differently, 864 in ICU in a country of 4 million is astoundingly high

speckle wrote: »

Anyone what sort of test they will be using? Anyone here read slovakian? Apologies if that is not the language name.

I done read Slovakian sorry but this answers your question
https://spectator.sme.sk/c/22512665/the-state-prepares-across-the-board-coronavirus-testing.html

bb1234567 wrote: »

No, I was just taking it off worldometers. For most countries such as Ireland, UK, Italy , USA, Israel and countless others the serious/critical figure eems to mean ICU specifically

Maybe for Moldova it's counted differently, 864 in ICU in a country of 4 million is astoundingly high

Just looked at the Moldovaian announcement and with judicious application of Google translate I get

Health status of infected persons: 864 - severe condition (of which 36 patients are connected to assisted breathing apparatus), 1541 - medium severity, other patients in satisfactory condition.

I'd say 36 icu on the Ventilators maybe 864 hospitalised?

1,506 swabs last 24hrs from 19,018 swabs. Impressive testing numbers. But 7.92% positivity

Oof, that's likely a feckload of cases announced today or tomorrow

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Just looked at the Moldovaian announcement and with judicious application of Google translate I get

Health status of infected persons: 864 - severe condition (of which 36 patients are connected to assisted breathing apparatus), 1541 - medium severity, other patients in satisfactory condition.

I'd say 36 icu on the Ventilators maybe 864 hospitalised?

But not everyone in ICU is ventilated. Those on ventilators are a small subportion of our ICU total also?

Severe condition sounds like ICU to me but maybe I'm wrong

Widdensushi wrote: »

Must be a rise in Dublin again

Or a lot more testing in other places. You'd imagine there's are a lot more testing locations in the really hot spots.

Widdensushi wrote: »

Must be a rise in Dublin again

How do they get the positive figures versus the positive swabs. It confuses me?

bb1234567 wrote: »

But not everyone in ICU is ventilated. Those on ventilators are a small subportion of our ICU total also?

Severe condition sounds like ICU to me but maybe I'm wrong

I believe most Icu patients with covid get put on ventilation.

The government will not wait for a few more weeks to implement levels 4/5.cos then there will be a surge of people out the doors mixing and spread of virus will be faster..so better do it now..then release us open up retailers..less panic to buy for Christmas as more time so less crowded areas ....

froog wrote: »

i don't think retail shops should close under any level of the plan. they seem very low risk in my opinion with distancing, sanitizing and masks. pubs and restaurants being the exception.

Except people are not social distancing inside shops. It's back to being a family day out for some.

They might be social distancing at the checkout or going in the door but lots of people wandering around shops, touching everything they see, like a normal shopping day not in the middle of pandemic.

Stopping to chat with people they meet, masks under chin, nose sticking out of mask, or no mask. Touching their face mask then touching the goods.

Huge amounts of crowds inside some shops with no social distancing.

Dare we say our hospital figures are not disastrous?

Unfortunately if we do a lockdown we need a full real lockdown, complete shutdown (schools definitely included) for 2-3 weeks, no messing.

We dont want a protracted experimental lockdown with schools open and transmission still rising but rising at a slower pace.


We have two options, lockdown hard for 2-3 weeks or live in level 3 or so for the rest of the winter accepting we will have high case numbers, protect our hospitals and expand them with back up etc.

We cannot accept a lockdown without closing the schools- it will be much less effective and prolong the pain

is_that_so wrote: »

Swabs are just tests, they then need to review the test data, check for duplicates etc..

Ok thanks for that, can I ask 1 more silly question, how would it happen that there would be double swabs taken, does that mean a person could be tested twice within that time period?