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Fed up with videogames

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,931 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    It's a sign of great immaturity if you judge someone for playing video games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    What lessons do they teach? That a dragon can be defeated by brewing a special potion? That’s a new one.

    Everybody's knows you've got to hike to the top of a mystical mountain and be trained by an order of martial monks in the ancient dragon language before you can even contlepate defeating a dragon. :)

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    People take the whole gaming thing way too seriously. I was playing gta a few days ago, some 11 or 12 year old was giving me the absolute height of abuse like tiling me to kill myself etc because he went into a store and I parked a car at door so he couldn't get out

    If it’s one thing I’d love to see change in the coming years it’s that type of ****ing ****head kid banned from 18’s + games. There should be an automatic banning system done by voice chat so once they open their mouth it’s bye bye. 18s games are adults only and it would be nice to play them without hearing Timmy Mcscrote and his **** music or comments about fag this and that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,285 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Rothko wrote: »
    It's a sign of great immaturity if you judge someone for playing video games.

    No one is “judging” the children, R.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,093 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    If it’s one thing I’d love to see change in the coming years it’s that type of ****ing ****head kid banned from 18’s + games. There should be an automatic banning system done by voice chat so once they open their mouth it’s bye bye. 18s games are adults only and it would be nice to play them without hearing Timmy Mcscrote and his **** music or comments about fag this and that.

    That sort of thing has no effect on me anyway, so I just kept killing him till he rage quit. I'd agree with you it's pretty annoying. I only find it bad with GTA and COD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I don't for a single second believe the OP. They haven't replied so most likely still playing CoD right now. But obvious troll aside...

    I think it's amazing all these people who play soccer instead of gaming, the tv is flooded with all these amazing weekend players taking on Messi and Co. Point being, most people who criticise gamers are usually the ones who are into watching the soccer with "the lads", downing poison and shouting at millionaires as if they could do better themselves. They might also play some sport, but imo they're not going to be making money for it (for 99% of people who do play). I wouldn't class that as improving your life.

    And the same can be said of any hobby that doesn't make money. People do it because it interests them and they like doing it. I don't know anyone who does a hobby or past time and doesn't like it, makes no sense. I love gaming, if you haven't been following my previous posts. It's my favourite thing to do. I'm 37. I also live at home with the parents, so make sure you judge me! People love to judge on here (myself included at times). Let's not take on that I have a full time job, pay my own way, help out with the parents needs. Granted, I don't have a huge social circle (I have lots of 'friends' on Facebook) and the people I (used to) visit is well below 20. But I'm happy, happier than when I tried to be the 'normal' adult male.

    Do what you like and enjoy, and as long as it doesn't affect anyone else, ta feck with anyone else. Also, @the poster who 'made' her husband throw away everything gaming related, tell your husband I feel sorry for him. What did you give up in order to enter the next phase of the relationship? Or maybe he didn't ask you to give up anything... Like others, I've had dropped you quicker than a hot snot if you said that to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,748 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Am I the only one who hasn’t a clue about this subject and who had never played video games?


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We must have hurt the OP'sfeelings so much that they haven't posted again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    There's some people I watch on twitch. com
    I just watch them talk while they play games
    It's entertaining and relaxing like watching a TV show
    1000,s of people make a living just playing games online and streaming
    They get donations from fans or followers they talk and play the game live on stream
    I think alot of people buy violent games like red dead redemption. GTA5 for their kids young teens play those games even though they are rated 18
    with scenes of extreme violence
    Gaming is just a hobby like watching TV or watch a soccer match
    It' can be a problem if its your only hobby and you avoid going out or meeting friends in order to play call of duty online or finish off a single player game
    It's just a hobby no one watches soocer on tv and says I'm gonna be a professional soccer player
    Games can be social eg you can play fifa or Mario kart with friends or family
    members in the same room


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Video games. I used to love them and have had playstation, X-Boxs even Nintendo consoles and handhelds but after a while you realise it's all just the same xhit over and over with very little new. It's new generation is just a new way go take your hard earned money and then time when you play the game. They just make you think it's new by making it look better a bi my like T.V now and the bul**** about HD and whatever is next. Feck that SD is the best you can't beat it. I used to play but just have not been arsed to in years. I never really got the online stuff at all. Done nothing for me. The best machine was rather Nintendo Wii although the Cube was great too. I regret selling my Wii but just did not have the time or space to play it. Still have my Cube do.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Am I the only one who hasn’t a clue about this subject and who had never played video games?

    Just to double check, you've never played anything on your phone, never played Mine Sweeper or Pinball on Windows PC's, never played an arcade game in the 'Arcade' while on holidays, never played one of those interactive stories on a computer where you pick the next step (that's a game too). Gaming doesn't have to be done on a PC or console, there are people out there who say they don't play games but will spend hours on Candy Crush or some other clicker or pointless App based games.

    Edit: Never played Snake on a Nokia? Pretty sure it's the law you have to try it at least once...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    PsychoPete wrote: »
    People take the whole gaming thing way too seriously. I was playing gta a few days ago, some 11 or 12 year old was giving me the absolute height of abuse like tiling me to kill myself etc because he went into a store and I parked a car at door so he couldn't get out

    He probably wasn't even wearing a mask


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    AMKC wrote: »
    I used to love them and have had playstation, X-Boxs even Nintendo consoles and handhelds but after a while you realise it's all just the same xhit over and over with very little new.

    The same can be said about television and movies too.

    I think the trick for me is I am a very rare gamer. I choose what to play very carefully and then immerse myself in it completely. Usually if you look up the "average hours" of a given game - I take 3 or 4 times longer.

    So it is very hard to get to the stage of it all feeling very repetitive or recycled. I am holding out now for the new Cyberpunk game. The main story of that game is estimated at 40 hours. And with around 75 side quests estimated - I probably will take 250 or 350 hours for it and won't need another game until summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    "consooming"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    If gaming doesn't suit people, that's fair enough, but there are going to be a lot of us who are not going to agree with the OP's thoughts. This is because their own circumstances are not going to be equally applied to everyone who takes part in this hobby. These circumstances can be good or bad for anyone.

    On the argument that gaming can be educational & worthwhile in the long term. There are a lot of benefits to this argument.

    I have read a few blog posts online of a few people who have gone on to play truck simulators on Steam in the early stages of their gaming hobbies. Over a period of time; these gamers who had invested their young lives into this hobby with live streaming their efforts online then went onto set up their own haulage delivery business in real life. What I am saying is that these guys, who live in various parts of the world, had basically taken on the initiative to buy a fleet of trucks to run a haulage delivery business so they can work in a job that they love while earning some decent money out of it to keep their roof over their heads.

    SCS Software who had released these posts on their online blog were delighted to see them work in an industry that they love.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Have to laugh at the Ops original assertion of “see you in the gym”. No you won’t, you won’t even be going to the gym by the end of this month. Go back to COD and git gud :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    90 per cent of tv movies are average and hardly worth watching .
    i mainly play single player game,s ,like uncharted, bioshock, metal gear 2,last of us ,games with a good story and high quality voice acting.Even an old game like enslaved ,on the 360.
    it had a story full of action with a great script,
    it had a very dramatic ending , the story was better than most of the programs and watch on tv.it was not cliched or predictable in any way.
    theres a wide range of games on the market,
    sports games, games to sing and play guitar along with classic rock songs.
    Older people may think games are just GTA or call of duty or fifa soccer
    or mario bros.
    Alot of people play games online ,you can play fortnite, its free , and you can talk to a friend at the same time.
    So to some extent its a social activity .
    3 or 4 people can play games at the same time .
    if i find a good game like bioshock i ,ll play it and explore every room,
    pick up every item, listen to all the voice overs .
    and i take it slow as i listen to the story unfold.

    i also watch people like dexbonus play games on youtube i would never bother to play
    as she is very funny and entertaining and puts on a funny voice for each
    character .
    so its like watching a comedy show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The older I get the more interest I lose in video games.

    Because you're realising that most of them are just crap or are lacking in some way that takes the entertainment value out of them.

    But that is the same for all entertainment media.

    When you have an enormous amount of something produced, it's a natural knockoff that the majority of it will be below average fare and eventually you begin to lose interest, because searching out the diamonds in the rough isn't worth the effort you once put in.

    Thing is, the OP isn't growing up. He's just growing tired. And that's bound to happen with anyone who saturates themselves with anything, whether that's books, movies, sport, games, work, etc.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    and who had never played video games?

    You should rectify that ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    KilOit wrote: »
    Older I got the less interested in games I got but strategy games Pull me in every now and again. No interest in online games anymore,, little gems like Rimworld, they are billions and even recently Hades bring me back to why games are still amazing and your taste just changes.

    I believe there is a game for everyone out there but they just haven't let themselves go because of stigma or ignorant outdated views on them

    Exactly.

    The majority of games I'll sit down to these days are things like 'Total War' and I could be months playing a campaign.

    Something like 'Call of Duty', I'd never spend money on and purely online games are usually a cesspool. In fact the only one I go near is 'DayZ' and even that's fairly limited with regards to actually meeting other people. But I have sort of developed an interest in 'Fallout 76' for some reason.

    Thing is, most games today just don't enthuse me. I just finished 'Call of Cthulhu' last night after a few nights play. I thought it was a game where I'd have to investigate my way through a HP Lovecraft type story. But it turned out to be completely on the rails and held the players hand the entire way through, thus killing any actual investigative angle that the game promised in the first place, rendering it a waste of time, largely, for someone like me.

    But I find that a lot of games are like that today, which I firmly put down to the console generation's influence on the games industry, where games in general have been vastly dumbed down in a effort to appeal to as broad an audience as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    When you are older you realise time is limited, you have only time to play certain high quality games that you really like and find interesting or different .
    like i have no interest in watching reality tv or basic tv crime cop shows i I i would not buy any game before i read a review or watch a video on youtube .
    For every good game theres another 30 similar games that copy that style
    or that type of game, i like playing games like fallout 4 where theres a wide range of characters to talk to and there is some kind of story line to follow rather than just shoot every enemy and pick up a new upgrade or a new weapon in the next level.
    i ,ll buy cod for 20 euro preowned and play through the campaign ,
    i dont play online fps games .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,748 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Just to double check, you've never played anything on your phone, never played Mine Sweeper or Pinball on Windows PC's, never played an arcade game in the 'Arcade' while on holidays, never played one of those interactive stories on a computer where you pick the next step (that's a game too). Gaming doesn't have to be done on a PC or console, there are people out there who say they don't play games but will spend hours on Candy Crush or some other clicker or pointless App based games.

    Edit: Never played Snake on a Nokia? Pretty sure it's the law you have to try it at least once...

    Correct. I’ve never played any games on my phone or computer. Wouldn’t even know how to find them. Not good with technology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭jmlad2020


    May I suggest going out tomorrow, pick a few magic mushrooms (they're in season) and re-evaluate your life?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17 comedown


    I'm having a breakdown.

    I was playing CoD and just had a wave of shame and embarrassment come over me. What the hell am I doing? I’m 32 years old, and I spend my nights shooting an imaginary pixel across the screen to prove I have faster hand eye coordination than some ****ing 12 year old kid across the country. What’s the ****ing point? It feels like I’m consooming some opiate of the masses bull****. Every game another $60. Every PS+ subscription another $20. Every new console another $400. When does it end? And the hours. I don’t even want to think about the hours poured into this various bull****. I’m a grown man and I ****ing spent 100 hours larping as an 19th century cowboy in Red Dead. What in the actual ****? Imagine if I had spent those hours in the gym or getting my degree.

    The more I think about videogames the more I realize this is just some corporate bull**** designed to keep man complacent and fixated on spending money. No wonder kids today are always bitching about mental health nowadays. You can’t live up to your true self when you spend your nights pretending to be some ****ing dwarf with a sword that casts spells.


    The current obsession with being "productive" is imported yank nonsense peddled by the "we out here grindin'" influencer brigade, and far more damaging to people's mental health IMO.
    Video games are just another hobby. If it's not fun anymore, that's OK - plenty of other hobbies out there.
    Just don't feel you HAVE to spend those hours in a gym/work/study etc.
    Fair point about games/consoles etc being a rob. Always been the case.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I only play Nintendo, Nintendo brings the fun I don’t like PlayStation or Xbox there all doom and gloom.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    comedown wrote: »
    The current obsession with being "productive" is imported yank nonsense peddled by the "we out here grindin'" influencer brigade, and far more damaging to people's mental health IMO.
    Video games are just another hobby. If it's not fun anymore, that's OK - plenty of other hobbies out there.
    Just don't feel you HAVE to spend those hours in a gym/work/study etc.
    Fair point about games/consoles etc being a rob. Always been the case.

    I agree with the most of your post, this having to be constantly doing something 'productive' is a sham and causes far more problems imo, people can't/have forgotten how to relax. At the end of the day, no matter who you are, you're replaceable. People forget that, the company really doesn't care about you.

    But the last line I disagree with. I bought a launch PS4 and upgraded to the PS4 Pro at some point. On average, about €800 spent between the 2 of them (if not slightly more). So that has given me something to allow me to play games for the last 7 years. That's a good investment in fairness.

    Then you have the likes of The Witcher 3, Fallout series, Elder Scrolls, etc. If they're your type of games, you can get hundreds of hours out of each one for a measly €70 (on release). That's excellent value for money, when you consider a cinema trip is €10 for ~2 hours.

    But there are also games out there not worth the cost, and same as everything else, some of it is value for money, others aren't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    comedown wrote: »
    The current obsession with being "productive" is imported yank nonsense

    There is far, far, too much Yank nonsense imported this side of the pond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    I only play Nintendo, Nintendo brings the fun I don’t like PlayStation or Xbox there all doom and gloom.

    I love my PlayStation 4 but Nintendo definitely make better games than everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭pah


    At the end of the day, no matter who you are, you're replaceable. People forget that, the company really doesn't care about you.

    Only a number my fellow number bearer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Exactly. I've copped onto the fact that probably only 0.01% of people actually get somewhere with all that hard work and dedication. I just can't. I'm happy to be one of the a-job-is-just-a-job people. I tried promotion in the last job, didn't suit me, so I'm happy to stay where I am right now, I appear to be eligible for a bonus every year, which also affects the base wage so I don't need a promotion. And as such, I don't need to go above and beyond what's expected, which is great. I'm only here for the money people, so I can buy more games.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Well that is silly. First of all yes don't play every night, limit yourself to only a few times per week. Second of all you sure as hell dont have to pay full price for every game, trade in deals at CEX for example have saved me countless amounts of money. Thirdly, yes there might be little value to multiplayer shooters, but plenty of games are artistic mastpieces that you can enjoy as any other great art, from the history and open world exploration of Assasins Creed to the mythological tales of God of War, or just the creativity of Final Fantasy etc etc there is absolutely nothing you lose by immersing yourself in such games rather than spending free time at the pub or watching tv or whatever.

    By moderation and playing the right games for the right reasons you will be perfectly alright. Be smart and avoid the industry making you into their personal bank, but the same can be said about any other industry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,931 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    I wonder how certain posters here feel about women who play video games.

    Yes, there are women who play them. To suggest otherwise would be sexist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    The self described harcore "gamers" tend to be a bit misogynistic.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭limnam


    What lessons do they teach?

    How to dress like a real man.

    Leisure suit Larry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    I'm having a breakdown.

    I was playing CoD and just had a wave of shame and embarrassment come over me. What the hell am I doing? I’m 32 years old, and I spend my nights shooting an imaginary pixel across the screen to prove I have faster hand eye coordination than some ****ing 12 year old kid across the country. What’s the ****ing point? It feels like I’m consooming some opiate of the masses bull****. Every game another $60. Every PS+ subscription another $20. Every new console another $400. When does it end? And the hours. I don’t even want to think about the hours poured into this various bull****. I’m a grown man and I ****ing spent 100 hours larping as an 19th century cowboy in Red Dead. What in the actual ****? Imagine if I had spent those hours in the gym or getting my degree.

    The more I think about videogames the more I realize this is just some corporate bull**** designed to keep man complacent and fixated on spending money. No wonder kids today are always bitching about mental health nowadays. You can’t live up to your true self when you spend your nights pretending to be some ****ing dwarf with a sword that casts spells.

    Relax and stop beating yourself up about this . The feeling is normal for many a 30 plus year old who spent a lot of the early and late 1990s and most of the 2000s being surrounded by PS 1,2,3 and 4 ; various Nintendo’s , x box etc

    You have played them all and what’s left ? Probably not a lot . The PS4 selection / variety of games has been poor compared to ps3 (selection and variety not quality ) or even Ps2

    Then like all you got duped into spending money on endless editions of call of duty , fifa , pes and feeling short changed - been there done that

    You are just getting to an age where enough is enough for you

    Yes , by all means focus on physical exercise . College ? You can always go back . There’s absolutely no harm in spending free time occasionally playing computers . Just mix it up a bit and make sure you maintain a social life

    Sometimes it’s them and not you - sometimes you don’t want to be stuck in the smoking area of the pub all night and your pals whining about something small or you spend half the night rowing with a girlfriend / potential girlfriend etc . Not everyone is having the time of their life despite what their FB page says . Work life can be a pain of working with dishonest and or incompetent people - so you need something to fall back on to enjoy yourself - for you it’s computers

    Game’s a clearly made and marketed for people of all ages , and especially for those who grew up during the console boom of the late 1990-early 2000s who would now be in their 30s . Earlier than that consoles were seen as a geeks thing thm It became cool and now it probably back to being a geek thing

    Do what’s best for you - but yes , cutting down on the hours would be wise - gonna be hard however in lock down

    No point crying about what you could have done - we all do that - it achieves little . You can always do something about it now and in the future

    Personally I liked the auld consoles but wasn’t too big on it . Sega, game boy and all the playstations . And yes , I have done the 12-13 hours stints of eg Pes my be a pro , some RPG games and of course lol , CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER for the PC (every football fan was doing it during the early 2000s- loss of YouTube clips of people taking it way too seriously) always avoiding online play - not worth it for me

    Got the PS4 a few years ago , bought very little bar the odd Fifa , Pes, nba 2K and the assaissins creeds, GTA and red dead - nice way to spend Christmas when not watching the horse racing or - boozing

    1 Won’t /hope not / can’t see myself forking out money for ps5 - too busy now even if I wanted too. Also got other interests like cycling keeping fit etc

    Try not to put yourself down . It’s a normal phase you are going through


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Poor dude, my condolences to him.

    This evening I spent playing Metal Slug on one of my arcade machines while my wife played Mass Effect on her PC.

    We then both played a bit of Spiritfarer on the Switch together.

    Not a lot else to be doing with all these lockdowns as of late, let people do what they find fun.

    Your wife allowed you to spend quality time gaming ? You lucky lucky man


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    I can never understand the idea that you are meant to stop playing games at a certain age.

    How is any different to reading or watching a film or anything else.

    If you like watching football or playing a game what difference does it make. Why do people have to be so judgemental.

    If you like it just do it unless it's getting in the way of doing other things.

    Whether one is meant to or not , by the time you start working long hours / being responsible for teams or a business , kids , wife ... it’s extremely hard to keep up the auld gaming .

    Christmas is a good time to give the console a blast but most of the year some people are just too tired

    Most of us born in the 1980s and 1990s were born to the console generation . Developers didn’t forget about that large group of people in the 2010s when making games . They are clearly marketed for them as much as they are for the teenagers of today

    Nothing wrong with gaming . Just do it in moderation and personally my opinion , stay off the online stuff - take can get too serious and competitive and can get nasty

    It is a bit sad that we didn’t spend enough time outside playing football - jumpers for goal posts (nice , marvellous) like the kids of the 1970s but they had nothing else to do

    but then, many of us were already playing sports for clubs, school and colleges and some of the really talented people were also playing for county or country or province so that was more than enough of that .

    You are absolutely right though . No different to reading a book or watching a film - **** those who judge

    Personally , the women make me laugh. What do they do in their free time (that lack of it many of us have today lol) watching soaps and Hollywood gossip while bitching to their pals , getting dressed up for the gym with some laughable excuse of a work routine and spending most of that time taking selfies of themselves and their ****ing lunch (okay a bit generalised intentionally)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭limnam


    Your wife allowed you to spend quality time gaming ? You lucky lucky man


    I'd say he knew that before he married her.

    Make your own luck :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    limnam wrote: »
    I'd say he knew that before he married her.

    Make your own luck :cool:


    Women change once they marry - the horror ! The horror ! 🤣🤪


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭limnam


    Women change once they marry - the horror ! The horror ! 🤣🤪

    Sounds like the only thing this one will be changing is cartridges :pac:


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've never owned a console. PC all the way for me.

    Just had a look at my Steam account for play time:

    Currently installed.
    Crusader Kings 3: 92 hours.
    Hearts of Iron 3: 900 hours.
    Hearts of Iron 4: 1098 hours.
    Stellaris: 381 hours.
    Imperator Rome: 291 hours.
    Rimworld: 280 hours.
    XCOM: 264 hours.
    Shogun 2 Total war: 407 hours.
    Supreme Commander: 270 hours.

    I could go on, and there's likely another 10,000 hours spread over other games which aren't currently installed, and I've had that steam account for well over a decade.

    People have different interests. My careers/jobs have always been quite social, so I value the time to play games because it gives me a rest/downtime from other people. And just for those who declare that it's a colossal waste of time, while I'm playing many of these games, I'm thinking of other things, which leads to inspiration for other activities. I've written/published three books now, and I'd say a large part of the thought process happened while I was also playing a strategy game.

    We're individuals... just because your thought process is different from mine, doesn't make it any more superior. I've no interest in Sports, but my lack of interest in that doesn't mean that I think you're wasting your time watching, following teams, or playing with your friends. Each to their own. I've never really understand this need to cast judgment over other peoples activities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Rothko wrote:
    Yes, there are women who play them. To suggest otherwise would be sexist.

    It's normal enough now that most people don't make the distinction any more.


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