Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 01:56AM

I hate to say I told you so. Toilets are a real issue. Schools in particular should be mitigating this vector.

Just to add these are toilets in different dwellings. So the mode of infection would be the same for those using the same toilet.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1317258046268112897?s=20

Itssoeasy · 17-10-2020 01:59AM

The November 2020 edition of national geographic magazine is not surprisingly all about covid-19 and it’s an excellent 140 pages of coverage from many parts of the globe and the front cover is from a lung CT scan of an elderly Belgian man with covid and it does show the reality of this virus on someone’s lungs. The magazine had touched on covid-19 early this year but this is a dedicated issue.

Edit: it was august of this year that they first mentioned covid-19.

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 01:59AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

I’m actually not comparing NZ to Ireland, but you even mention it and you have people foaming at the mouth. They simply begrudge anyone else doing well, that was my point from the beginning.

It's akin to Zero Covid, Herd Immunity or Let it Rip... fancifully dreams from either a person leaving in a fantasy land or a genocidal maniac!
Mentioning then doesn't help us in anyway, it just causes a needless argument in a time when we need to pull together.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 02:00AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah I agree, nobody wants that. The border might get a bit intense. As in all borders, not just the north.

I usually skip by your nonsense unfortunately it was under a post that I felt required a response. You are becoming a parody. Just thought I'd let you know. I don't attribute any relevance to your posts since the multiple fake tweets you posted.

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 02:02AM

Stheno wrote: »

Well we all have to give something up to be honest. My neighbour is high risk and did laps in their garden during lic

If it stops house parties and reduces spread its a small sacrifice imo

But there has to be enforcement

To bypass the curfew for house parties just get to the place early. Enforcement is the biggest problem at the moment.
Think hefty fines and even taking people off pup, doc their social welfare payments if they are found breaking the more serious restrictions will be a good deterrent.

Paddygreen · 17-10-2020 02:02AM

spookwoman wrote: »

Curfew at night might be a difficult one, lot of people especially those high risk go for their walks at night. Shift workers do the same.

Maybe the authorities would make an exception, a permit system perhaps. It would make so much sense if people were microchipped, they could then be efficiently scanned then by the authorities to ascertain if they have permission to be where they are, if their vaccines are up to date etc.

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 02:04AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I hate to say I told you so. Toilets are a real issue. Schools in particular should be mitigating this vector.

Just to add these are toilets in different dwellings. So the mode of infection would be the same for those using the same toilet.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1317258046268112897?s=20

It's old news about toilets. I think the last one was months ago and it was due to dry toilets (no water flushing) your link is about raw sewage leaking around and secondary infection being picked up on shoes etc...

It's been a while since I've been in school toilets, but back then the floors weren't covered in **** with it leaking out around the corridors.

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 02:05AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I usually skip by your nonsense unfortunately it was under a post that I felt required a response. You are becoming a parody. Just thought I'd let you know. I don't attribute any relevance to your posts since the multiple fake tweets you posted.

It's either gifs or graphs he's posted with **** all discussion, hopefully he'll go the way of the frog.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 02:07AM

spookwoman wrote: »

To bypass the curfew for house parties just get to the place early. Enforcement is the biggest problem at the moment.
Think hefty fines and even taking people off pup, doc their social welfare payments if they are found breaking the more serious restrictions will be a good deterrent.

The Garda do not have the power to enter a private dwelling just because a party maybe in progress. You seem to be confusing restrictions and laws. It seems the desire to throw the constitution into the ditch is getting traction.

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 02:08AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Maybe the authorities would make an exception, a permit system perhaps. It would make so much sense if people were microchipped, they could then be efficiently scanned then by the authorities to ascertain if they have permission to be where they are, if their vaccines are up to date etc.

I got the flu jab, which going by twitter, it should be the 5G chip, so they can scan me and know i'm obedient and let me on my way!

On a serious note, it was nice that the vaccine was free for me and christ it felt like a dead shoulder for 2 days. No wonder the nurse asks if you're right or left handed!

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 02:08AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I usually skip by your nonsense unfortunately it was under a post that I felt required a response. You are becoming a parody. Just thought I'd let you know. I don't attribute any relevance to your posts since the multiple fake tweets you posted.

I think you lost all credibility when you espoused opinions based on two diametrically opposed wives. When I want to make a point I look for research, read the paper, understand the conclusions and report on the actual findings. That takes work and time.

It's easy to speak about personas that reinforce my opinion with no way to verify if they exist. Those who choose this method of argument are almost always lying. It's easy and lazy intellectually.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 02:09AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

It's either gifs or graphs he's posted with **** all discussion, hopefully he'll go the way of the frog.

In fairness Caveat is an intelligent poster , unfortunately he is prone to posting bull****, I on principal ignore the frog.

Atlantic Dawn · 17-10-2020 02:09AM

If you don't know a single person who died of Covid are you unique? It's a global pandemic apparently.

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 02:10AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

It's old news about toilets. I think the last one was months ago and it was due to dry toilets (no water flushing) your link is about raw sewage leaking around and secondary infection being picked up on shoes etc...

It's been a while since I've been in school toilets, but back then the floors weren't covered in **** with it leaking out around the corridors.

Sure.

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 02:11AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The Garda do not have the power to enter a private dwelling just because a party maybe in progress. You seem to be confusing restrictions and laws. It seems the desire to throw the constitution into the ditch is getting traction.

We've been told we would have:
Random testing at airports
Enforcement of restrictions (fines)
both haven't materialized.

What's shocking is people actually out and about after a positive test or working with symptoms. I always thought there was provisions in the health act going back to the time of TB to control that.

Itssoeasy · 17-10-2020 02:12AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If you don't know a single person who died of Covid are you unique? It's a global pandemic apparently.

I don’t know anyone who has died from it. I do know a few people recently(none in March and April although we are testing more nowadays) who have tested positive but I can’t tell you the last time I was even remotely in close proximity to them for any amount of time.

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 02:13AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The Garda do not have the power to enter a private dwelling just because a party maybe in progress. You seem to be confusing restrictions and laws. It seems the desire to throw the constitution into the ditch is getting traction.

You seem to be getting confused with what I said. I say to bypass curfews get to places early. I'm pretty sure Star Trek Transporter or Space folding tech is not available at the moment and people will have to walk, drive or take other means of transport that could be blocked by checkpoints etc. Don't believe the majority of our drains are big enough for people to use either.

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 02:14AM

An American in New Zealand. Goes down like a lead ballon.

https://twitter.com/DoctorYasmin/status/1317160777816702976?s=20

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 02:14AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I think you lost all credibility when you espoused opinions based on two diametrically opposed wives. When I want to make a point I look for research, read the paper, understand the conclusions and report on the actual findings. That takes work and time.

It's easy to speak about personas that reinforce my opinion with no way to verify if they exist. Those who choose this method of argument are almost always lying. It's easy and lazy intellectually.

See that's the thing lad , I owned up to my less than honest posting although what I posted concerned me and noone else or purported facts.
You however posted several false tweets and when called out blamed the authors of said tweets. The Stanford university tweet springs to mind.

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 02:16AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Sure.

You're slipping, I thought you would post a gif of a sure deodorant ad.
Maybe the naked chest with the can being sprayed against the chest?

Then maybe a chart with Sure sales dropping because of the social distancing and remote working. Possibly dropping in an exponential fashion.

440Hertz · 17-10-2020 02:17AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I hate to say I told you so. Toilets are a real issue. Schools in particular should be mitigating this vector.

Just to add these are toilets in different dwellings. So the mode of infection would be the same for those using the same toilet.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1317258046268112897?s=20

It would be a particular issue in China. While it's made progress across a huge array of areas, public toilets and sewage plumbing isn't one of them. There are still a lot of *very* unpleasant toilets and also a general ban on putting toilet paper into toilets. So fouled toilet paper goes into a waste paper basket next to the toilet...

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 02:18AM

spookwoman wrote: »

You seem to be getting confused with what I said. I say to bypass curfews get to places early. I'm pretty sure Star Trek Transporter or Space folding tech is not available at the moment and people will have to walk, drive or take other means of transport that could be blocked by checkpoints etc. Don't believe the majority of our drains are big enough for people to use either.

Drunk text?

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 02:18AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

See that's the thing lad , I owned up to my less than honest posting although what I posted concerned me and noone else or purported facts.
You however posted several false tweets and when called out blamed the authors of said tweets. The Stanford university tweet springs to mind.

Eh no I did not. Please provide proof. I posted one tweet stating Stephen donnely didn't understand the R number which subsequently transpired as true.

I immediately identified the tweet as being false and deleted when certain posters didn't get the joke and **** the bed.

I must have missed the owning up. I did not say we need to get back to normal so my son in law can donate a kidney or one of my two wives can get back to work. I wish whatever it is you want came true so you'd not have time to post.

I guess it begins with p.

DebDynamite · 17-10-2020 02:20AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I'd say 6/7 max. Although different households as only 2 live there.

I think it's the ****e guitar playing and singing that has me irate.

I'd love a sesh to be fair but meh Pfizer look close so I'll hold out!

2021 could be some year :-)

I’d be definitely reporting them to the management company though

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 02:21AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

You're slipping, I thought you would post a gif of a sure deodorant ad.
Maybe the naked chest with the can being sprayed against the chest?

Then maybe a chart with Sure sales dropping because of the social distancing and remote working. Possibly dropping in an exponential fashion.

Kind regards...

Not sure the deodorant reference. Weird. Do you think it will sell out in lockdown?

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 02:25AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Drunk text?

Makes more sense than what you posted.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The Garda do not have the power to enter a private dwelling just because a party maybe in progress. You seem to be confusing restrictions and laws. It seems the desire to throw the constitution into the ditch is getting traction.

Stheno was the one who mentioned curfews and said about house parties. I just replied how to bypass the curfew, that fines for breaking more serious restrictions and you start going on about how I seem to be confused that police cannot enter houses...
I never mentioned anything about entering houses.

Maestro85 · 17-10-2020 02:29AM

Arghus wrote: »

As far as I'm aware it's the same? Essential services? I'm open to correction - but what is defined as an essential service is a bit broader than what it was in March and April.

My last tourism job was working outside in maintenance and security during a 9 - 5 job and I got a letter through my company that it was essential services. Trust me it wasn't. Bizarre definitions of what is essential. I now work for Failte Ireland and do regular site visits throughout the country and I was basically told to go easy on the rules for places I am checking under the new safety charter. A lot of these outdoor attractions will also be deemed essential services because the companies do not want to be paying employees to be at home even if they are availing of the covid payment. The whole system needs a watchdog to enforce the rules.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 02:29AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Eh no I did not. Please provide proof. I posted one tweet stating Stephen donnely didn't understand the R number which subsequently transpired as true.

I immediately identified the tweet as being false and deleted when certain posters didn't get the joke and **** the bed.

I must have missed the owning up. I did not say we need to get back to normal so my son in law can donate a kidney or one of my two wives can get back to work. I wish whatever it is you want came true so you'd not have time to post.

I guess it begins with p.

You posted several false tweets and you got reported for same. You posted the Stanford university tweets got upset when called out. I have described you as an intelligent poster but you have a serious issue when it has been pointed out to you that were wrong. You wish to blame the accuser

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 02:37AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You posted several false tweets and you got reported for same. You posted the Stanford university tweets got upset when called out. I have described you as an intelligent poster but you have a serious issue when it has been pointed out to you that were wrong. You wish to blame the accuser

Come on man, how was I to know a doctor from a university misspoke and later clarified. I'm not apologising for a reputable source.

I've not been directed to the part where you acknowledged you don't have two wives and a son donating a kidney around the time you were espousing to get back to normal.

Shocking: Maybe we should adopt the Swedish style and adopt morphine deaths as opposed to covid so we don't pollute our death figures? Immoral yes but in support of certain line of thought.

https://twitter.com/JoannaTeglund/status/1317093538702774278?s=20

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 02:44AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Come on man, how was I to know a doctor from a university misspoke and later clarified. I'm not apologising for a reputable source.

I've not been directed to the part where you acknowledged you don't have two wives and a son donating a kidney around the time you were espousing to get back to normal.

Maybe we should adopt the Swedish style and adopt morphine deaths as opposed to covid so we don't pollute our death figures? Immoral yes but in support of certain line of thought.

https://twitter.com/JoannaTeglund/status/1317093538702774278?s=20

You should post that tweet on the Sweden thread. Some people there believe Ireland does the same.
But how is that random tweet related to what Plumb was discussing?

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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