Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Jinglejangle69 · 17-10-2020 12:54AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Under public health zero, most of the time those calls are bottom of the queue

My point exactly.

We can go to level 5 all we want.

But until we have authority to actually stop the morons ruining it for everyone else nothing will change.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 12:58AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

My point exactly.

We can go to level 5 all we want.

But until we have authority to actually stop the morons ruining it for everyone else nothing will change.

All level 5 does is throw another several hundred thousand onto the PUP scheme. Those acting the dickhead will continue to act the dickhead including our ethic friends who respect no laws and noone seems inclined to encourage them to do so.
I forget in level 5 you can only exercise up to 5k from your home, but is that as the crow flies or Google maps?

MOR316 · 17-10-2020 12:59AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

All level 5 does is throw another several hundred thousand onto the PUP scheme. Those acting the dickhead will continue to act the dickhead including our ethic friends who respect no laws and noone seems inclined to encourage them to do so.
I forget in level 5 you can only exercise up to 5k from your home, but is that as the crow flies or Google maps?

I walked 10k from my home during that.

F**k the Police :cool:

Eod100 · 17-10-2020 01:00AM

MOR316 wrote: »

There were alternatives posted earlier but, can't recall them. I was "working"

Me? I haven't given it a thought only that, it's absolutely laughable that they expect people to stay at home, no interaction with anyone, close the entire country down but, will keep the schools, the very thing that opened and is causing this resurgence of cases, and expect people to live and isolate with students

None of that makes any sense!

Parents today, 100s of them, hanging around outside schools...Smoking, talking, laughing...I know one parent who knew her kid was around someone who had the virus...Sent them to school anyways.
I heard of two teens who shifted, one of them had the virus, both went to school and the other brought it home.

But yeah, it's the pubs, restaurants, museums, gyms, hotels, planes, tourists that caused this massive rise in cases... :rolleyes:

Sorry, I cannot get my head around any of this

I think that could be an argument for closing schools too but there seems to be a political decision made that they will stay open plus knock on effect of healthcare workers and other essential workers having to take time of work to look after their kids plus all other workers who can't work from home.

At this stage I don't think they can trace it to locations specifically with the volume of cases they're dealing with. It's so prevalent in community people could pick it up literally anywhere and everywhere.

MOR316 · 17-10-2020 01:01AM

My point re the Schools staying open and closing everything is the equivalent of the following.

"Mr. President, Osama Bin Laden is hiding in Pakistan"
"BOMB AFGHANISTAN!!"

Or, this!

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 01:03AM

HSE Operations report

Stheno · 17-10-2020 01:06AM

Eod100 wrote: »

Restrictions have been in place 4 weeks in Dublin though. And over 3 in Donegal. Think it's because in their previous letter, they thought level 5 was needed. Cases now higher than their projections. Don't have time to wait a few weeks unfortunately when there's a lag of cases due to incubation period. Need to try and get ahead of it.

The restrictions have changed twice in that time for Dublin

NPHRT on one hand emphasise that current numbers are from previous two weeks of behaviour and ask for restrictions. Then when cases increase due to the two week lag they seem to lose all reason

Now thats coming from someone who apart from my partner has one social contact a week so don't be thinking I'm one of the let it rip merchants. I work from home, do a grocery shop late on a Sunday evening and go for dinner with my partners son once a week

Stheno · 17-10-2020 01:11AM

Eod100 wrote: »

I've yet to hear an alternative from anyone opposing restrictions. Government's answer is restrictions which are in name lower but have aspects from higher levels. No clear exit strategy.

Curfew overnight. Enforceable
Fines for abuses and enforceable

Week on week off for school attendance with online learning every second week to reduce the sheer hordes of kids congregating

The threat of penalties may change a lot of peoples behaviours

frank8211 · 17-10-2020 01:11AM

ixoy wrote: »

I wonder if they'd do a halfway measure - close secondary schools but keep primary ones open. Secondary school students are far more likely to be able to look after themselves without requiring a parent around and also more likely to spread the disease than kids as far as I'm aware.

Yes that's a good idea. Third level online / remote "for the next two weeks" for ths last 2 weeks. Why not senior secondary. it is way beyond time for education at that level to move out of a 19th century model modified only by electricity heat toilets and now sanitiser at door and teacher with mask but otherwise unchanged for at least a century

mandrake04 · 17-10-2020 01:12AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Ssh for some reason plenty around won't like that being pointed out. don’t like hearing that NZ will be living a normal life....enjoying Pubs, restaurants, visiting friends..oh and Christmas.
I've done it right ?

FYP

Eod100 · 17-10-2020 01:13AM

Stheno wrote: »

The restrictions have changed twice in that time for Dublin

NPHRT on one hand emphasise that current numbers are from previous two weeks of behaviour and ask for restrictions. Then when cases increase due to the two week lag they seem to lose all reason

Now thats coming from someone who apart from my partner has one social contact a week so don't be thinking I'm one of the let it rip merchants. I work from home, do a grocery shop late on a Sunday evening and go for dinner with my partners son once a week

Yeah but the household visits recommendations seemed to come from government not NPHET. I think ideally would give time for these restrictions but with current rates I don't think we can afford to unfortunately.

Ah yeah knew you weren't one of those alright! Think level 5 would be very tough, I just don't see how cases will come down without a serious intervention unfortunately.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 01:15AM

Stheno wrote: »

The threat of penalties may change a lot of peoples behaviours

Actually it won't, because the people who need to be targeted won't be . What will happen is the compliant person who makes a slip will get nailed.

frank8211 · 17-10-2020 01:15AM

ixoy wrote: »

I wonder if they'd do a halfway measure - close secondary schools but keep primary ones open. Secondary school students are far more likely to be able to look after themselves without requiring a parent around and also more likely to spread the disease than kids as far as I'm aware.

MOR316 wrote: »

I said earlier today, Tony and his mates need to go.
Not because I disagree with restrictions but, purely because their answer to everything is "Lockdown"

That's the moron's answer! That's the answer I and everyone else gives. I mean, there were posters wanting Lockdown when we had 14 or 15 daily cases and NPHET says this is expert advice?
So that makes us all experts does it? They haven't a clue and this craic with the schools proves it!

Their mates in the media, at the pressers, they're not even challenging them on this. ****ing **** are more interested in getting a nod and a wink off Tony ffs

The craic with the schools isn't Tonys fault, His bosses have decided keeping them open is a given. His advice is based on access to food medicine and school is the immovable bottom line

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 01:16AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

FYP

Actually you didn't you made up a load of sh*t I never said. You need to learn the spirit of FYP.

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 01:20AM

Stheno wrote: »

Curfew overnight. Enforceable
Fines for abuses and enforceable

Week on week off for school attendance with online learning every second week to reduce the sheer hordes of kids congregating

The threat of penalties may change a lot of peoples behaviours

Curfew at night might be a difficult one, lot of people especially those high risk go for their walks at night. Shift workers do the same.

TonyMaloney · 17-10-2020 01:29AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You fixed nothing to be honest you changed my post entirely, pathetic tbh. You attributed things to me I never said. Where i'm from that behaviour would earn someone a smack.

Sounds awful

Where are you from?

Stheno · 17-10-2020 01:31AM

spookwoman wrote: »

Curfew at night might be a difficult one, lot of people especially those high risk go for their walks at night. Shift workers do the same.

Well we all have to give something up to be honest. My neighbour is high risk and did laps in their garden during lic

If it stops house parties and reduces spread its a small sacrifice imo

But there has to be enforcement

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 01:32AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Sounds awful

Where are you from?

Editsville.

TonyMaloney · 17-10-2020 01:34AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Editsville.

Population: monkeys

mandrake04 · 17-10-2020 01:36AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Actually you didn't you made up a load of sh*t I never said. You need to learn the spirit of FYP. Where i'm from that behaviour would earn someone a smack.

Sure, you sound a bit upset.

I think when we mention NZ from now on we absolutely don’t compare it to Ireland as that silly.

But we can still look at NZ in awe, there’s no harm in that...is there?

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 01:37AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Population: monkeys

Ah Tony I thought you were better than that. Easy to categorise you now.

TonyMaloney · 17-10-2020 01:40AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

Sure, you sound a bit upset.

I think when we mention NZ from now on we absolutely don’t compare it to Ireland as that silly.

But we can still look at NZ in awe, there’s no harm in that...is there?

You need to cut him some slack.

Apparently he's been living in some awful kip where it you make a mistake they smack you in the mouth.

Poor kid

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 01:44AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

Sure, you sound a bit upset.

I think when we mention NZ from now on we absolutely don’t compare it to Ireland as that silly.

But we can still look at NZ in awe, there’s no harm in that...is there?

Not upset at all tbh. I work in an essential industry so never stopped working and am expecting a sizeable bonus year end because of increased orders due to Covid. Rural dweller so got used to not having sessions in the pub (drink driving and all that) have good neighbors and enjoy their company even with restrictions.
I hope it works out for NZ I really do but serious storm clouds on the horizon, Covid is now only a small part of it.
It appears to me it's you that got upset, so much so you had to change my post. ;-)

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 01:45AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

You need to cut him some slack.

Apparently he's been living in some awful kip where it you make a mistake they smack you in the mouth.

Poor kid

As I said Tony I thought you were better than that. How's Scotland tonight any updates?

mandrake04 · 17-10-2020 01:47AM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

You need to cut him some slack.

Apparently he's been living in some awful kip where it you make a mistake they smack you in the mouth.

Poor kid

Yep only it’s not a mistake ummm more like the truth, there’s an easy way out of where ever that is....plenty of options these days.

Funny when you just mention NZ it upsets so many, they just hate that’s it going good over there.

Wolf359f · 17-10-2020 01:50AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

Sure, you sound a bit upset.

I think when we mention NZ from now on we absolutely don’t compare it to Ireland as that silly.

But we can still look at NZ in awe, there’s no harm in that...is there?

Why compare Ireland to NZ, why NZ?, they have neighbors close by with a slightly higher population of 9mil, an island with a land border and only 578 cases and 7 deaths, Papua New Guinea. We seem to be only be able to compare to English speaking, white countries.

Comparing Ireland to NZ, is like comparing NZ to Papua New Guinea ffs.

mandrake04 · 17-10-2020 01:51AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Not upset at all tbh. I work in an essential industry so never stopped working and am expecting a sizeable bonus year end because of increased orders due to Covid. Rural dweller so got used to not having sessions in the pub (drink driving and all that) have good neighbors and enjoy their company even with restrictions.
I hope it works out for NZ I really do but serious storm clouds on the horizon, Covid is now only a small part of it.
It appears to me it's you that got upset, so much so you had to change my post. ;-)

Actually I was laughing, I’m still laughing LOL.

caveat emptor · 17-10-2020 01:52AM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The only purpose a soldier has ever served at a checkpoint is the availability of force as a deterrent by use of his/her weapon.
I'll leave it that it only serves to derail the thread.

Yeah I agree, nobody wants that. The border might get a bit intense. As in all borders, not just the north.

mandrake04 · 17-10-2020 01:54AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Why compare Ireland to NZ, why NZ?, they have neighbors close by with a slightly higher population of 9mil, an island with a land border and only 578 cases and 7 deaths, Papua New Guinea. We seem to be only be able to compare to English speaking, white countries.

Comparing Ireland to NZ, is like comparing NZ to Papua New Guinea ffs.

I’m actually not comparing NZ to Ireland, but you even mention it and you have people foaming at the mouth. They simply begrudge anyone else doing well, that was my point from the beginning.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 01:56AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

Actually I was laughing, I’m still laughing LOL.

You still took the time to change a post to suit your narrative. ;-)

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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