Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

GazzaL wrote: »

Come down off your high horse.

I've met people from border counties and the North multiple times per week over the last few months. Neither I or any of the people I work with have contracted COVID because we socially distance and have good hygiene. We are also prepared to take personal responsibility.

NPHET and the Government have wasted over 6 months where they could've addressed what a blind man could see coming. Too many mixed messages and nowhere near enough pragmatic action. A complete failure.

What could the government realistically have done differently? Is not as if they can magic up extra capacity in the health service - and this is especially true when medics are in high global demand.

They spelt out some fairly simple rules. Wash your hands, wear a mask, keep your distance, avoid crowds, limit your contacts. It's the last two that has largely been ignored and the country is in the state its in because of that.

The citizens for once will have to take the blame here, this isn't governments fault.

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1316502476376412160?s=20

Well

Cork needs another hospital, this isn’t really a new thing. Last I heard they were in preliminary talks and looking at the St Stephens site in Glanmire for a new hospital but haven’t heard anything since.

screamer wrote: »

They don’t know what they don’t know, so it’s hard for them to give exact guidelines. It’s as obvious now as the inevitability of a second wave in virus season that they will continue to make it up as they go along.
We better get used to ambiguity and rolling with it, we’re going to be living this way for a long time yet.

That's bull**** though and completely unacceptable.

They've known for months that they need to address testing, contact tracing, hospital and ICU capacity. They can't expect to lock down the entire country for 6 months at a time because they failed to do anything to address the issues.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cork needs another hospital, this isn’t really a new thing. Last I heard they were in preliminary talks and looking at the St Stephens site in Glanmire for a new hospital but haven’t heard anything since.

Really just drawing attention to it, while they aren't covid beds where are the new covid patients meant to go if we do get bad? Really badly set up for the second biggest city in the country

votecounts wrote: »

Probably the wrong thread, but whoever decided to outsource the contract tracers
with zero hour contracts shold be sacked, I would have thought they would have been directly employed by the HSE, rant over

Have to agree, these conditions sound very poor considering their essential roles.

Over the Summer many people from the colleges volunteered for this as they were getting paid and were already Garda vetted in their workplace. The colleges also hosted many of the tracing centres. They are now back at work so the numbers of tracers would have gone down when needed most.

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

I think there’s confusion around your original post.

Was your test on Saturday?

Or is your 14 days of isolation since the testing ending on Saturday?

It reads like the former, but I think you mean the latter?

This one. Self-isolation period after positive test ends on Saturday.

Pulsating Star wrote: »

Have to agree, these conditions sound very poor considering their essential roles.

Over the Summer many people from the colleges volunteered for this as they were getting paid and were already Garda vetted in their workplace. The colleges also hosted many of the tracing centres. They are now back at work so the numbers of tracers would have gone down when needed most.

Why bother to do it properly though when they can just shut down the country and destroy the economy? Far easier to just throw their hands up in the air and call for a lockdown.

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Is it true that there is only 1 Covid patient in ICU in Cork? If so the shortage is not a Covid issue but a HSE issue.

1 in critical care in CUH last night, 2 in Mercy
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-20-00-13-october-2020.pdf

mcburns07 wrote: »

1 due to Covid but thanks to the media for drawing our attention to an issue that exists every year.

If there's one good that come out of all this it's reform of the health service.

you're missing the point. we are into surge plans now in a number of hospitals. whether that's from covid or normal illnesses doesn't matter. the health service is on the brink of total collapse. it barely got by in previous years. it won't survive an out of control covid situation which we have right now. that is what people have been trying to say all along, right from the start of this thing.

GazzaL wrote: »

That's bull**** though and completely unacceptable.

They've known for months that they need to address testing, contact tracing, hospital and ICU capacity. They can't expect to lock down the entire country for 6 months at a time because they failed to do anything to address the issues.

I think the worst thing is that yet again in Europe as a whole, we’ve been caught rotten with underestimating this virus. First time, it seemed that they didn’t realise how or when it would hit, till it was here and killing people. This time I fear they’ve underestimated how it’s going to infect the general population. I think it’ll be worse than what we saw last spring by a long way.
We can be outraged as much as we want, it won’t change a thing. Protect ourselves, get good PPE masks if you haven’t got them already, social distance and sanitize or wash those hands. These are the only tangible things we can do to try and help out, all the anger and outrage in the world isn’t going to do a thing for us now.

castletownman wrote: »

With all respect, how the f*ck do you know there isn't mental health at play?

Forgive my cynicism, but I'm just seeing mental health being bandied about as an excuse for ignoring the guidelines. It's the case that a huge proportion of people have zero resilience and are that fragile, or it's a convenient excuse to hide behind.

And for the vast vast majority it's the latter.

niallo27 wrote: »

My employer, a pretty massive multi-national follow all the suggestions so far. There will be nobody on site non essential till next year id say.

Same for me, working for a large foreign company - offices have been closed since March and no-one is allowed on premises unless they have a letter saying "essential". I've got one, and I've been to the office once. No plans to open up any time soon, either (because the premises would be Covid Central if they ever opened).