Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Skylinehead · 14-10-2020 10:01PM

hmmm wrote: »

It's a pandemic. Governments need to make choices and large numbers of people die or suffer economic hardship if they make the wrong choice.

Cheers, I hadn't noticed.

I'm pointing out that your parties and GAA comment is just stupid. This goes far, far beyond that, to the point where the restrictions are downright dangerous.

14-10-2020 10:02PM

CoronaBlocker wrote: »

Good to know - shame I'm in Ireland!

Imagine the fights, wife wants to form a bubble with her parents, husband with his brother, kids with their mates. Easier to say no mixing

Pitch n Putt · 14-10-2020 10:02PM

hmmm wrote: »

The government has prioritised schools. It's not that one is safer than the other. We need schools more than we need communion parties or GAA celebrations.

We need to stop the spread of the virus more than anything else really. That’s what we’re being told the last 6 months plus.

You can’t shove water up a hill too handy but that’s what our geniuses are effectively trying to do by prioritising schools.

hmmm · 14-10-2020 10:03PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

I'm pointing out that your parties and GAA comment is just stupid.

We can't choose to have schools open and allow people to host parties during a pandemic.

So which one would you prioritise?

Cal04 · 14-10-2020 10:03PM

Due to have someone in to plaster the kitchen next week, is that not allowed now

Liamo_mu · 14-10-2020 10:03PM

So no forced working from home for people who are able too? Do they not realise no employers follow suggestions?

stargazer 68 · 14-10-2020 10:03PM

It's starting to remind me of when I lived in Riyadh. What did you do for the weekend? Nothing really - went to the Souk with s couple of the girls and then back for lemonade and a video! When what you actually did was went to another compound with the girls, drank homemade wine and Siddiqui and got blathered with pilots and engineers!

CoronaBlocker · 14-10-2020 10:04PM

Necro wrote: »

Can still meet up outside. I suggest a walk in a nearby park or along a beach if possible.

Preferably one with a nice cave out of sight

And don't forget we'll have to maintain 2m at all times! Lucky god was good to me

froog · 14-10-2020 10:04PM

GazzaL wrote: »

I know some people get a horn dreaming of banning people from seeing their families, destroying jobs, banning alcohol, and so on but is there any plan to improve our testing response times, contact tracing, hospital and ICU capacity, or does anyone give a bollocks about the only practical means to manage COVID-19?

track and trace is a joke worldwide, it's utterly failed in most countries with the possible exception of south korea and new zealand. it's failed twice in our country.

ICU and hospital beds, sure but 1. it ain't going to happen tomorrow, or next week, or next month. we need to act now. as in today. and 2. those are treatment measures, it would be preferable to not have to use them.

the only thing that works is pretty harsh lockdowns unfortunately, and so we only have two options here;

1. a series of lockdowns until we get a vaccine.
2. "let it rip" herd immunity which kills lots of people directly from covid, and indirectly through a completely overloaded hospital system. it's the lazy and completely inhumane method.

that's where we are so people need to grow some balls and deal with it.

Skylinehead · 14-10-2020 10:04PM

hmmm wrote: »

We can't choose to have schools open and allow people to host parties during a pandemic.

So which one would you prioritise?

I'm not going to engage with you as long as you continue with this absurd "parties" line. You know full well that not allowing any visits whatsoever is not just "parties".

893bet · 14-10-2020 10:04PM

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

We have the fools and plenty of them. Three of them on the tv right now.

No one allowed in your house

Kids in school with 30 - 600 different households

Stay in your own county

Go to work and work with people from 6/10/12 different counties.

No sense to any of these so called restrictions.

There is plenty of sense in them.

It’s fairly simple maths. Very simple.

Less interactions = less chance of transmission. It really couldn’t be more basic but I hear the above ****e I have quoted spouted regularly.

AlphaDelta1 · 14-10-2020 10:05PM

kenmc wrote: »

What's so different in Europe than China, Korea etc? China numbers may be a tad doubtful, fair enough, but Korea doesn't seem to be surging like Europe is. Same hemisphere, so it's not a summer\winter thing. Is it down to civil "obedience" (forced or otherwise) levels between there and here maybe?
Likewise scandanavia doesn't seem to be resurging like Italy, Germany etc unless I missed some. Yet USA states showing the surge again too.... Feckin bizarre

Society buy in. Huge sense of personal responsibility in places like Korea and Vietnam etc... not so much here or the UK. Look at some of the comments on here ffs.

niallo27 · 14-10-2020 10:06PM

Liamo_mu wrote: »

So no forced working from home for people who are able too? Do they not realise no employers follow suggestions?

My employer, a pretty massive multi-national follow all the suggestions so far. There will be nobody on site non essential till next year id say.

14-10-2020 10:06PM

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

We need to stop the spread of the virus more than anything else really. That’s what we’re being told the last 6 months plus.

You can’t shove water up a hill too handy but that’s what our geniuses are effectively trying to do by prioritising schools.

It must be repeated, spread is not happening in schools more than elsewhere in society and the evidence is it’s less than elsewhere in younger age groups. And if transmission is reduced in the community as a whole that will also result in fewer schools cases and reduced risk in school.

hmmm · 14-10-2020 10:07PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

I'm not going to engage with you as long as you continue with this absurd "parties" line. You know full well that not allowing any visits whatsoever is not just "parties".

I never said anything about social visits, only parties, and I'm not responding to your "stupid" comment. There's been plenty of communion parties in recent weeks, and the GAA celebrations are all over social media.

s1ippy · 14-10-2020 10:07PM

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058122163/1

A poll on schools closing for midterm.

Liamo_mu · 14-10-2020 10:08PM

niallo27 wrote: »

My employer, a pretty massive multi-national follow all the suggestions so far. There will be nobody on site non essential till next year id say.

My employer also a massive multi national hasn't followed a single suggestion in terms of working from home.

We worked from home for the 3 or so months it was forced but have been back in the office since then despite the fact the job functioned perfectly from home.

For every employer doing their part their is another who pretends their employers must be on site when it really isn't the case.

Skylinehead · 14-10-2020 10:08PM

hmmm wrote: »

I never said anything about social visits, only parties, and I'm not responding to your "stupid" comment. There's been plenty of communion parties in recent weeks, and the GAA celebrations are all over social media.

But my point to you was that it's not just parties. What are you arguing then? That we should ban parties? Agreed. But this is beyond that.

owlbethere · 14-10-2020 10:09PM

rob316 wrote: »

The problem you have now is you don't have public by in. People are understandably fed up and don't care as much anymore.

That's not entirely true. There's a lot of people willing to follow the guidelines because they know its for the best. To avoid or minimise risk of infection and getting sick. There's still a lot of stamina from people who view this virus as a threat to their health and their families health.

hmmm · 14-10-2020 10:09PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

But my point to you was that it's not just parties. What are you arguing then? That we should ban parties? Agreed. But this is beyond that.

That's exactly what I said.

UrbanFret · 14-10-2020 10:10PM

frank8211 wrote: »

A few may be getting there I believe In Cavan

An elderly Lady passed away in the last week. Her son who lives withher was travelling with a neighbour when he passed the news to him that his mother had passed.The neighbour slightly surprised asked him what had happened as he wasn't aware she was ill. Oh the son says "The old Covid" got her.

speckle · 14-10-2020 10:10PM

Hey folks, I am serious has the whole country just gone up a level or what?

froog · 14-10-2020 10:11PM

speckle wrote: »

Hey folks, I am serious has the whole country just gone up a level or what?

there is no levels.

Pitch n Putt · 14-10-2020 10:11PM

893bet wrote: »

There is plenty of sense in them.

It’s fairly simple maths. Very simple.

Less interactions = less chance of transmission. It really couldn’t be more basic but I hear the above ****e I have quoted spouted regularly.

You better check your post so.

If it’s simple as you say.

Kids / teens are interacting in schools daily.

So by your logical approach above

More interactions = More cases ..... Simple .. Very simple. No?

14-10-2020 10:12PM

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

You better check your post so.

If it’s simple as you say.

Kids / teens are interacting in schools daily.

So by your logical approach above

More interactions = More cases ..... Simple .. Very simple. No?

And it's a case of balancing activities as desirable/necessary, one of which is schooling

Yes it is simple except for people whinging that they can't do what they want.

speckle · 14-10-2020 10:13PM

froog wrote: »

there is no levels.

plan down the drain?

Goldrickssan · 14-10-2020 10:14PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058122163/1

A poll on schools closing for midterm.

Schools already close for midterm

Always_Running · 14-10-2020 10:14PM

FFS Gerry Killeen on the TV again.

14-10-2020 10:14PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

I'm not going to engage with you as long as you continue with this absurd "parties" line. You know full well that not allowing any visits whatsoever is not just "parties".

I know 5 people over the age of 60, 3 over 75, who have caught it in the past 6 weeks or so. 4 of the cases were small groups of visitors to private houses and the 5th was a funeral.

One hospitalised but home now, one still sick but I believe is recovering at home, and 3 back to normal

kksaints · 14-10-2020 10:14PM

Necro wrote: »

I don't do suppositories!!! :pac:

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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