Apple Event - October 13th 2020

Nobotty · 13-10-2020 7:11pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Camera looks like A big upgrade under the hood

On the basic 12?
What are the camera specs vs say a Samsung S20 ? Or the one plus nord ?

Blazer · 13-10-2020 7:11pm

Due an upgrade so missus gets my XS and I’ve to decide between 12 pro and the max.
While I love the size of the 6.1 giving extra stuff to the max is pissing me off.

Thelonious · 13-10-2020 7:11pm

So how much tha price

In the Euros plz

fifth · 13-10-2020 7:11pm

Any idea of pricing here? I was hoping they might sneak in 120hz on the Pro Max, sadly not. Might pick up a Pacific Blue though .. my XS Max is in bits.

peteeeed · 13-10-2020 7:12pm

Is the homepod mini getting a release here which the homepod never did

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:12pm

12 Pro starts at €1,159.80

12 Pro Max starts at €1,258.20

12 mini starts at €815

12 starts at €913.85

adox · 13-10-2020 7:12pm

And still the iPad Air can’t be ordered.

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:13pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Is the homepod mini getting a release here which the homepod never did

Nope, looking like U.K. is our closest bet.

TitianGerm · 13-10-2020 7:13pm

adox wrote: »

And still the iPad Air can’t be ordered.

Was that announced today as well? I missed the start of the show.

Blazer · 13-10-2020 7:14pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Currently on a 11 Pro Max and the size is just a little too big, can't imagine using something bigger.

12 Pro for me I think!

The 12 pro max is the same size, slightly larger screen though.

adox · 13-10-2020 7:16pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Was that announced today as well? I missed the start of the show.

No was announced at last months event.

I presumed it could be pre ordered after today’s event as they were holding out releasing the A14 chip until they announced it in the iPhone but it’s still “coming in October” while the 12 series can already be pre ordered.

Weird.

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:16pm

Less battery life in the 12 Pro versus the 11 Pro

quarryman · 13-10-2020 7:16pm

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$748 in the US.

Wow.

Zhane · 13-10-2020 7:16pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Is the homepod mini getting a release here which the homepod never did

No mention of it on the Store anyway. Disappointed in that.

bingobars · 13-10-2020 7:17pm

quarryman wrote: »

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$699 in the US.

Wow.

Is tax factored in to this?

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:18pm

quarryman wrote: »

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$699 in the US.

Wow.

The 12 Mini is €815 in Ireland.

Take New York for an example it would be $760.98 including sales tax of 4%. Irish pricing includes 21% VAT.

pad199207 · 13-10-2020 7:20pm

quarryman wrote: »

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$699 in the US.

Wow.

Surely that can’t be right?

pad199207 · 13-10-2020 7:21pm

FourFourFM wrote: »

The 12 Mini is €815 in Ireland.

That seems outrageous

Nobotty · 13-10-2020 7:21pm

900 euro plus for this ?
Feck that
One plus nord is sub €400

13-10-2020 7:21pm

A lot of complaints about not going to usb-c, I honestly don’t remember the last time I plugged in my iPhone to change it - wireless charger beside the bed, one in the kitchen and one build into the car so just never need to.

Damien360 · 13-10-2020 7:21pm

quarryman wrote: »

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$699 in the US.

Wow.

The US quotes price without VAT. Most states have a different sales tax and I found electronic stores always quoted ex vat in store and you added the extra at the till.

quarryman · 13-10-2020 7:23pm

bingobars wrote: »

Is tax factored in to this?

It is now

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:24pm

quarryman wrote: »

It is now

You got the Irish price wrong to start with.

TitianGerm · 13-10-2020 7:27pm

adox wrote: »

No was announced at last months event.

I presumed it could be pre ordered after today’s event as they were holding out releasing the A14 chip until they announced it in the iPhone but it’s still “coming in October” while the 12 series can already be pre ordered.

Weird.

Thanks for that. I hadn't actually spotted sit before and want to pick up a new tablet and nothing on the android side ever caught my eye.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 7:29pm

quarryman wrote: »

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$748 in the US.

Wow.

Is Dollar prcing an error?

And you're probably excluding US taxes as people always do.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 7:32pm

Nobotty wrote: »

900 euro plus for this ?
Feck that
One plus nord is sub €400

Not the same spec and is €409, so how is that sub €400?

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:33pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Just took a look, the 12 Pro Max is 6.7″ and 11 Pro Max is 6.5″ - so slightly bigger, no?

12 Pro Max is 6.33 inches x 3.07 inches x 0.29 inches

11 Pro Max is 6.22 inches x 3.06 inches x 0.32 inches

adox · 13-10-2020 7:33pm

quarryman wrote: »

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$748 in the US.

Wow.

You have your Irish figures way off. The 12 isn’t even that price, never mind the mini.

pad199207 · 13-10-2020 7:34pm

Will they ever bring in the pay monthly finance to Ireland

quarryman · 13-10-2020 7:35pm

adox wrote: »

You have your Irish figures way off. The 12 isn’t even that price, never mind the mini.

815 euro is $957.

quarryman · 13-10-2020 7:36pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Is Dollar prcing an error?

And you're probably excluding US taxes as people always do.

It is not an error.

And I added tax to the US cost.

Shn99 · 13-10-2020 7:37pm

anyone know why homepod isn’t available in Ireland?

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 7:37pm

quarryman wrote: »

Iphone 12 mini:

$957 in Ireland
$748 in the US.

Wow.

iPhone 12 is €815 in ireland that equals €673 exc VAT which is US$790 so the diference is not that big.

quarryman · 13-10-2020 7:39pm

murpho999 wrote: »

iPhone 12 is €815 in ireland that equals €673 exc VAT which is US$790 so the diference is not that big.

The iphone 12 is not €815 it's €915.

Are you actually reading anything properly?

DubDJ · 13-10-2020 7:40pm

Shn99 wrote: »

anyone know why homepod isn’t available in Ireland?

It never was, it had a limited release (3 countries I think). I thought the mini would change that but apparently not.

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:41pm

quarryman wrote: »

It is not an error.

And I added tax to the US cost.

Right and you’re factoring in that we pay 21% sales tax as the reason for the difference in prices?

Pre VAT: €643.85 current conversion rate $756

Not a major issue compared to $699

Shn99 · 13-10-2020 7:41pm

DubDJ wrote: »

It never was, it had a limited release (3 countries I think). I thought the mini would change that but apparently not.

Very strange, If i was to buy one from amazon UK would it work normally here? Radio etc

DubDJ · 13-10-2020 7:42pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Were you hoping to go for one of the Pros?

I have always went for the flagship model yeah. Not the larger Max/Plus models though, always too big for me. Same goes for this year, it's either the 12 or 12 Pro. Or don't buy one at all and hope for 120Hz in a year :eek:

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 7:42pm

Mr.S wrote: »

€45 for the MagSafe Charger is a fairly pricey :eek:

I'm sure there'll be plenty of 3rd party options on it.

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:43pm

Shn99 wrote: »

Very strange, If i was to buy one from amazon UK would it work normally here? Radio etc

Yes I have two and they work fine here. No restrictions really.

DubDJ · 13-10-2020 7:43pm

Shn99 wrote: »

Very strange, If i was to buy one from amazon UK would it work normally here? Radio etc

A couple of people mentioned earlier they had a couple of HomePods. Anybody able to answer this question for me as well? I'll probably order from the Apple UK store if it works ok in Ireland without having to change regions or any of that headache.

shanec1928 · 13-10-2020 7:43pm

ah it would be an apple event thread without someone giving out about the us price and not adding on the tax..

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:44pm

DubDJ wrote: »

A couple of people mentioned earlier they had a couple of HomePods. Anybody able to answer this question for me as well? I'll probably order from the Apple UK store if it works ok in Ireland without having to change regions or any of that headache.

No region change required. Nothing is required actually, just your iOS device to set it up

Royale with Cheese · 13-10-2020 7:46pm

Elisha Blue Shore wrote: »

A lot of complaints about not going to usb-c, I honestly don’t remember the last time I plugged in my iPhone to change it - wireless charger beside the bed, one in the kitchen and one build into the car so just never need to.

It has nothing to do with charging your phone though. USB-C the standard now for all peripherals, as I'm sitting here I can plug my phone into my usb-c monitor and start using the keyboard and mouse connected to the monitor and use the phone like its a desktop. There are many many use cases for usb-c on a mobile device (which is exactly why apple have put it on the higher end iPads now), and there is no good reason Apple haven't put it on their phones other than the usual anti-consumer shíte.

DubDJ · 13-10-2020 7:47pm

FourFourFM wrote: »

No region change required. Nothing is required actually, just your iOS device to set it up

Thanks for that, new HomePod mini in November I think. I have a few HomeKit devices now so glad to finally have a hub they can connect through for remote access too. That and the integration with the Apple ecosystem is an easy sell for me. If the sound is good I'll be happy but it will probably be mostly Podcasts and voice automation for me. I'll gladly pay a premium for the added privacy compared to the competition too.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 7:48pm

DubDJ wrote: »

I have always went for the flagship model yeah. Not the larger Max/Plus models though, always too big for me. Same goes for this year, it's either the 12 or 12 Pro. Or don't buy one at all and hope for 120Hz in a year :eek:

OK, I had the same dilemma last year but just went with the 11 and don't regret it.
It offers better value for money, same chip etc.

I personally don't think the Pro's have any dealbreaker or must have for the extra money they're asking.

I think the 11 was their biggest seller by far and I'm sure the 12 will be this year.

FourFourRED · 13-10-2020 7:50pm

They dropped iOS 14.1 now as well

0ph0rce0 · 13-10-2020 7:50pm

FourFourFM wrote: »

Right and you’re factoring in that we pay 21% sales tax as the reason for the difference in prices?

Pre VAT: €643.85 current conversion rate $756

Not a major issue compared to $699

$699 + 9.5% (Around the highest in the states) - about $765 - EUR - 650

That's what they are paying in the states.

$699 / Eur 595 + 21% = Eur 719

So they are adding on another 100 for good measure.

murpho999 · 13-10-2020 7:53pm

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

$699 + 9.5% (Around the highest in the states) - about $765 - EUR - 650

That's what they are paying in the states.

$699 / Eur 595 + 21% = Eur 719

So they are adding on another 100 for good measure.

You've answered the question yourself.

You've shown that US tax is 12.5% more here so why do you think they've just added on €100 when the difference is actually €69 as you have calculated?

DubDJ · 13-10-2020 7:55pm

murpho999 wrote: »

OK, I had the same dilemma last year but just went with the 11 and don't regret it.
It offers better value for money, same chip etc.

I personally don't think the Pro's have any dealbreaker or must have for the extra money they're asking.

I think the 11 was their biggest seller by far and I'm sure the 12 will be this year.

The larger lineup this year definitely makes things a lot more difficult. I agree though, the 11 and 12 models will be the biggest sellers by far. I think only those with a lot of disposable income or tech enthusiasts will be interested in the Pro models. I fall in the latter category unfortunately :P

Apple Event - October 13th 2020

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