Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Icyseanfitz · 10-10-2020 07:40PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MartinaBroe1/status/1314917378711486464?s=20

F sake

Between that and asking all staff etc to turn off the covid app, why arnt people seeing this ffs, its depressing

is_that_so · 10-10-2020 07:41PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

Yeah I have two kids and I strongly advocate keeping schools open. But the reluctance to acknowledge that schools are responsible for some of this spread is mind boggling.

If we were talking any other activity here, there would be discussion around it. It’s downright dishonest. You can’t manage a problem you don’t acknowledge.

Schools are being managed, there's a whole host of public health teams on it. They maintain that cases in schools are not coming from schools.

Fuascailteoir · 10-10-2020 07:41PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There is that too but the numbers being reported from the lab at Cavan general would point towards an outbreak there.

But yes border too

Is an outbreak in cavan general itself and the GAA are going to have to shoulder a lot of the responsibility for the outbreak as seems to have coincided with county final celebrations

Blondini · 10-10-2020 07:41PM

niamh247 wrote: »

It is so ridiculous that people re still scared to point at schools. Schools are the exchange hubs for asymptomatic transmission. Data doesn't catch it. Government is using lack of data for its advantage to keep the schools open.

Objective was about sending parents to work, not to ensure learning of kids or their mental health as guv claimed when the schools re-opened.

There are strange undeclared vested interests who will present, misinterpret and twist "statistics" to obsessively argue that schools are not the problem. Outrageous really.

10-10-2020 07:41PM

kippy wrote: »

Think about it with some level of logic for a minute and you'd understand where we are at ...

Enlighten me......

kippy · 10-10-2020 07:41PM

sterz wrote: »

Condescending post of the day right there.

I could do better but on the phone. Sorry if it came across that way.

kippy · 10-10-2020 07:42PM

mcburns07 wrote: »

Enlighten me......

I'll let you do your own research. You'll learn more

beggars_bush · 10-10-2020 07:43PM

niamh247 wrote: »

Completely agree. Schools are THE silent hubs

The numbers say otherwise
Less than 3% positive cases from tests in school children and staff

GazzaL · 10-10-2020 07:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think part of the Government's response (or lack of it) is because nowhere else in Europe has done anything major yet. They don't want to be first out of the blocks, would much rather follow the crowd like in March.

If another lockdown is on the cards (and I still think it's unlikely), then they'd better actually use the time. Get 4 or 5 Covid only hospitals set up for the moderate cases. If they lie empty for awhile so be it. Get testing up to 30,000 a day. Double the number of contact tracers and make sure we trace backwards as well as forwards, find the sources of cases and cut the transmission chains.

South Korea have been showing the world how to live with this since February, copy them.

NPHET don't want to do anything progressive. They're happy to blame the public to cover up their failures. The easiest thing for them to do is call for lockdowns as they get paid regardless.

DellyBelly · 10-10-2020 07:44PM

Well I think we can all agree that Covid is the story of the year so far.

UrbanFret · 10-10-2020 07:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You are talking absolute lies.

Care to elaborate.

Cilldara_2000 · 10-10-2020 07:45PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Leo's a GP like Tony

These 2 are not world renowned infectious disease experts

Question who on NPHET is an infectious disease expert?

Like the Swedes have in charge

1) Unlike Leo, Tony leveled up to public health expert after qualifying as a GP. Leo "leveled up" to politician.

2) For example, Prof Colm Bergin is an infectious diseases consultant at St James’s Hospital and Professor of Medicine at Trinity College Dublin. There's also the "Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Subgroup" chaired by Prof Philip Nolan, President, National University of Ireland, Maynooth.

And I'm sure there's more.

You didn't really think they had no infectious diseases experts?

is_that_so · 10-10-2020 07:46PM

GazzaL wrote: »

NPHET don't want to do anything progressive. They're happy to blame the public to cover up their failures. The easiest thing for them to do is call for lockdowns as they get paid regardless.

It is about the only tool we have amid an awful lot of complacency.

GazzaL · 10-10-2020 07:46PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Well I think we can all agree that Covid is the story of the year so far.

Bayern winning the quintuple was the story of the year for me. Whether you love them or hate them, it was a spectacular year for them.

10-10-2020 07:46PM

kippy wrote: »

I'll let you do your own research. You'll learn more

Is there a definitive answer on it? No.

I've read the speculation, I know we can extrapolate the ICU / death rates and come up with ballpark case figures. Its's still far from definitive and there's a lot of assumptions made.

tigger123 · 10-10-2020 07:46PM

GazzaL wrote: »

NPHET don't want to do anything progressive. They're happy to blame the public to cover up their failures. The easiest thing for them to do is call for lockdowns as they get paid regardless.

NPHET are not spreading this virus.

is_that_so · 10-10-2020 07:46PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Well I think we can all agree that Covid is the story of the year so far.

It is the year!

Goldrickssan · 10-10-2020 07:47PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Well I think we can all agree that Covid is the story of the year so far.

I dunno, Harry and Meghan quiting the royal family is up there

DrSpongeBobz · 10-10-2020 07:47PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Well I think we can all agree that Covid is the story of the year so far.

Hopefully it is the story of this year.

Ger Roe · 10-10-2020 07:48PM

thelad95 wrote: »

They came up with this wishy washy levels approach but surely accompanying this approach should be some sort of threshold to move to a different level.

We are at uncontrolled community spread and this will only get worse and worse. What exactly is the government waiting for?

They are waiting for people to forget that they threw the head last week. There will be newly invented restrictions brought in soon, but it won't be called Level 5. That term is toxic ..... until we forget that they ignored the call to move, last weekend.

And what's with Captain Bleedin' Obvious Donnelly, telling us all that the HSE is going to be challenged like never before?- if only he was in a position to do something about it, like if he was in Government and was Minister for Health.

GazzaL · 10-10-2020 07:48PM

tigger123 wrote: »

NPHET are not spreading this virus.

Once again, nobody said they are. Now what about their litany of failures?

froog · 10-10-2020 07:49PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Well I think we can all agree that Covid is the story of the year so far.

i dunno, that baby rhino is Dublin zoo was pretty huge.

BringBackMick · 10-10-2020 07:49PM

A good war will put our anxieties into check.

xhomelezz · 10-10-2020 07:49PM

GazzaL wrote: »

NPHET don't want to do anything progressive. They're happy to blame the public to cover up their failures. The easiest thing for them to do is call for lockdowns as they get paid regardless.

They giving advice to government. Progressive haha, wasn't 5 lvl advice progressive enough for you? And btw yup public is to blame, hardly nphet is spreading virus around.

Goldrickssan · 10-10-2020 07:49PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Once again, nobody said they are. Now what about their litany of failures?

What failures? They're not in control of anything

syngindub · 10-10-2020 07:49PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Well I think we can all agree that Covid is the story of the year so far.

Not to forget Ronnie winning 6th World Championship !!

JP Liz V1 · 10-10-2020 07:50PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

3 deaths, 1012 cases.

spookwoman wrote: »

241 in Dublin, 112 in Cork, 80 in Cavan, 72 in Meath, 66 in Galway, and the remaining 441 cases are spread across 21 other counties.

We are fattening the curve not flattening, take care, stay safe all

Icyseanfitz · 10-10-2020 07:50PM

What the **** is the point of a 5 stage plan if there is no intention to ever use the last 2 no matter how bad things get, Dublin is at level 3 for best part of a month, has it stopped? No

tigger123 · 10-10-2020 07:50PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Once again, nobody said they are. Now what about their litany of failures?

They provide public health advice. If anything, the biggest criticism in the last few weeks is that they are being overly cautious in the advice they're providing to Government.

What are their failures?

10-10-2020 07:50PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Once again, nobody said they are. Now what about their litany of failures?

You do realise their only remit is to advise? They are not the HSE and they are not the government.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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