Covid-19 & The Great Reset

09-10-2020 3:56pm #1

The Great Reset: Reset and Reshape The Future
"The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world"
- Professor Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum

Back in October 2019, this same World Economic Forum, in association with the Bill&Melinda Gates Foundation, ran 'Event 201', a "hypothetical pandemic simulation exercise".
A few months later, unfortunately/coincidentally, Covid appeared. The pandemic was declared, and they're now putting that plan into action.
Although some details are still vague, the proposed control measures seem all encompassing. Some examples include:

- Digital identity
- Internet governance
- Global Health
- Global Governance
- Digital Economy
- Taxation

Full list here, click the official graphic:https://mobile.twitter.com/zoeharcombe/status/1312747747204882434

Thankfully, Bill Gates had/has been putting billions into vaccine development, so he should have us covered on that end. Klaus Schwab has also said it's unclear whether said vaccines will be a one-off, or administered repeatedly (annually, for example).

Advertisements are already going up around the UK, and I assume all EU countries will be signing up. More official information (including a list of their corporate partners) can be found on their website: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rAiTDQ-NVY

I'm grateful these guys had the foresight to prepare us for such unforseen circumstances, and look forward to seeing how they decide to reshape our economy, society and lives for the better

Dionaibh · 09-10-2020 4:54pm

I wrote about the Great Reset in the Conspiracy forum. Scary stuff.

Hector Savage · 09-10-2020 5:10pm

I stopped reading at "5G" ...

BattleCorp · 09-10-2020 5:18pm

How the fcuk is 5G..............ah fcuk it. Not worth the effort.

xhomelezz · 09-10-2020 5:22pm

So great to hear OP found the meaning of life. Wish him luck and byeeeee

09-10-2020 6:45pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

How the fcuk is 5G..............ah fcuk it. Not worth the effort.

The point there was stricter governance of internet and 5G platforms. Forget the term 5G for a minute; look into what's actually been proposed and pushed through here in general across the board. Serious stuff.

09-10-2020 6:48pm

xhomelezz wrote: »

So great to hear OP found the meaning of life. Wish him luck and byeeeee

Thanks for your useless response. Good luck, and blocked

Dionaibh wrote: »

I wrote about the Great Reset in the Conspiracy forum. Scary stuff.

Indeed; will change everything. Not a conspiracy anymore either, now they're out in the open with it. They said themselves the "window of opportunity is narrow", so they'll do everything they can to force it through in the next 12 months. I hope it's severely watered down or doesn't come to fruition at all, but all the biggest players are officially behind it. People are sleeping on this.

peasant · 09-10-2020 7:29pm

Like it or not, a global reset is absolutely necessary and pretty much unavoidable. The only question really is if it will be a controlled transition or a natural-economical desaster that will force us to rethink our actions and the ways we live.

The environment is broken.
Our resource "management" is broken.
Consumerism is a dying economic model.
Politics is broken.
Capitalism is in its last throws.
Wealth distribution is more unequal than ever.
Democracy is in danger.

I could go on ...

The coronavirus is forcing us to think new thoughts and try new ways of doing things. It certainly isn't the perfect kickstarter for a global rethink but it's the one were were handed and have to deal with.

The herculean task for the immediate future will be twofold:
1) Get people to buy into change ..giving up old familiar behaviour patterns is hard to do...even when you know they're plain wrong
2) Making sure that this time round the reset benefits everybody, not just a select few. Get people out of their fear and apathy and involved in shaping a better future for all of us ...the whole planet. We can't just leave to a select few to decide what's best for us (=them).

xhomelezz · 09-10-2020 7:41pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thanks for your useless response. Good luck, and blocked

No problem. Anytime.

eleventh · 09-10-2020 8:36pm

peasant wrote: »

Wealth distribution is more unequal than ever.

Multi-billionaires are behind this. If they want wealth distribution, why don't they live that way themselves? What are they waiting for?

3xh · 09-10-2020 8:39pm

peasant wrote: »

Like it or not, a global reset is absolutely necessary and pretty much unavoidable. The only question really is if it will be a controlled transition or a natural-economical desaster that will force us to rethink our actions and the ways we live.

The environment is broken.
Our resource "management" is broken.
Consumerism is a dying economic model.
Politics is broken.
Capitalism is in its last throws.
Wealth distribution is more unequal than ever.
Democracy is in danger.

I could go on ...

The coronavirus is forcing us to think new thoughts and try new ways of doing things. It certainly isn't the perfect kickstarter for a global rethink but it's the one were were handed and have to deal with.

The herculean task for the immediate future will be twofold:
1) Get people to buy into change ..giving up old familiar behaviour patterns is hard to do...even when you know they're plain wrong
2) Making sure that this time round the reset benefits everybody, not just a select few. Get people out of their fear and apathy and involved in shaping a better future for all of us ...the whole planet. We can't just leave to a select few to decide what's best for us (=them).

A reasoned post, I have to say, among some childish ones here.

But I’d have to ask, regarding a few things;

The environment. If everyone switches to Teslas and Leafs, what damage will that do to the environment? Both the damage around extraction as well as the electricity needed to recharge the billions of new electric vehicles.

We’re told to recycle. But those separated products sometimes end up either in landfill anyway or being burned in an incinerator by big business. Not the public on the street after they’ve bought into the recycle idea. Some recyclables are just dumped in the ocean in certain parts of the world but already energy efficient Europeans are brow beaten into lowering their thermostat by another degree.

Politics is definitely broken. Jobs for the boys after they leave office. Jobs for their friends whilst they are serving in office. I hope Klaus Schwab will target this in his plan. Dynasties are another problem. Sure, a family, a line of brothers, whatever could just so happen to be the best people for the political job but realistically it’s their craving for money, power, junkets, etc that gets them on board. Not a desire to be civic minded.

Wealth distribution. I’ve heard this is part of the reset alright. I’d love to know, if someone is on €100k now, can they expect more or less because of the great reset? Are we to do away with the likes of ever being worth $70bn personally again like Gates, Bezos etc. and level the wealth field with that money redistributed or do they mean stop people earning €200k and sharing that level of wealth with people on €30k etc so we’re all just on €50k, for example? Nothing is stopping the billionaires from giving away their money faster than they are now and not through these quagmire-like Foundations with their names on it. They don’t need a reset for that.

I actually recently read the UN Migration Pact because of all this stuff going on. One thing that struck me was that it was eventually agreed that there’d be no distinction between a political refugee and a pure economic migrant with regards to support offered to said migrants. The UN insisted to the members discussing the doc that there had to be no distinction, no difference in how each of any migrant could be seen by a signatory country. Why would they insist on such a demand on what is clearly two very different causes?

The actions of both the French and British governments in the English Channel is clearly one of collusion. It is not a genuine case of cat and mouse. If we’re told it’s to pay for our pension, it’s clearly a lie as anyone 40 or younger will unlikely see anything like the current pension system in place when they go to draw their state pension down. And these young males don’t become porters in old folks’ homes either, as has been alluded to. So as honest citizens, we’ve a right to be sceptical and demanding of those to which we give power.

peasant · 09-10-2020 9:04pm

I haven't had time yet to explore what the World Economic forum is and what they are suggesting...those were just my own thoughts.

3xh wrote: »

But I’d have to ask, regarding a few things;

The environment. If everyone switches to Teslas and Leafs, what damage will that do to the environment? Both the damage around extraction as well as the electricity needed to recharge the billions of new electric vehicles.

You have a few good questions there, but I'd like to take just the quoted one to explain something.

We really need a reset, a radical reset, not just tinkering with the problematic issues.

Replacing gas guzzlers with Teslas in ludicrous mode doesn't solve anything. In fact it makes it worse.
It suggests to people that if they divert their rampant and selfish consumerism from petrol to electric cars everything will be better and that they are doing something for the environment. That's bull****.
Finding an alternative to fossil fuel burning cars that weigh two tons and do 0- 100 in 6 seconds is necessary ...but electric cars that are even heavier, even faster and waste a different type of natural resource certainly aren't that alternative.

Working from home, using public transport, buying small efficient cars, using existing cars for longer, cycling, walking, car sharing ...that's where the answers are.

We need to look beyond the immediate quick fix on so many issues and really question everything from the ground up.

Do we really all need to work for money?
Could we perhaps work for the greater good instead?
Do we need to consume so much crap and waste so much energy?
Could we be happier and more kind to each other and the planet at the same time?

Certainly not in the current system.
But we need to start our imagination going. What kind of society / world would we like to live in, how could we get there.

Plenty of long, gloomy nights ahead with nothing to do ...let's get positive and think good thoughts for the future. Radical ones, but good ones.

3xh · 09-10-2020 9:42pm

Fair enough, peasant.

I agree with many of the solutions proposed by yourself however small they are in the grand scheme of things (and I mean that genuinely, not dismissively).

But my fear is that the powers that be, who are pushing to normalise this idea, already have the answers to these problems and any collaborative work with the public will be piecemeal and largely not implemented anyway.

Whatever happens will happen over the next generation.....

10-10-2020 10:39am

peasant wrote: »

Making sure that this time round the reset benefits everybody, not just a select few. Get people out of their fear and apathy and involved in shaping a better future for all of us ...the whole planet. We can't just leave to a select few to decide what's best for us (=them).

Well, it is the select few who'll be deciding what's best for us (them). As 3xh said, most of the plan has already been put into place. Highly doubtful their proposals will benefit us over them.

Coillte_Bhoy · 10-10-2020 10:50am

Deleted User wrote: »

Thanks for your useless response. Good luck, and blocked

Indeed; will change everything. Not a conspiracy anymore either, now they're out in the open with it. They said themselves the "window of opportunity is narrow", so they'll do everything they can to force it through in the next 12 months. I hope it's severely watered down or doesn't come to fruition at all, but all the biggest players are officially behind it. People are sleeping on this.

Who are they and how do we know they are 'officially behind it'?

tom1ie · 10-10-2020 10:54am

I haven’t read about this tbh so I’ll just ask one thing:

Does the great reset include worldwide debt forgiveness by any chance?

Didn’t think so.

peasant · 10-10-2020 11:01am

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, it is the select few who'll be deciding what's best for us (them). As 3xh said, most of the plan has already been put into place. Highly doubtful their proposals will benefit us over them.

Still digesting the info on their website(s), but at first glance it doesn't sound all bad.
Of course it's all very heavy on positive sounding headlines and very weak on actual details how this change ist to be brought about and what concrete plans exist ...if any.

Having said that, an organisation that offers an article like this on their platform:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/04/let-s-ditch-the-economy-of-the-1-and-replace-it-with-a-human-economy/
cant' be all about greed and enriching the few by subjugating the masses, can it?

I know, most people (me included) really haven't got the time to become involved in something like this and try to influence where it is going ...we're all too busy keeping up with the big hamster wheel of work and paying the bills.

But corona is slowing down (if not stopping) the wheel for quite a lot of us ...we might yet find the time to read and think about this and perhaps even get involved?

Before this thread I was only very vaguely aware of the World Economic Forum ...this is changing now. The more this topic is discussed among ordinary people on ordinary (social) media, the better.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 11:02am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well, it is the select few who'll be deciding what's best for us (them). As 3xh said, most of the plan has already been put into place. Highly doubtful their proposals will benefit us over them.

And I don't remember asking them to reset the planet. What a coincidence that a pandemic happened to come along to allow them to reset the planet. I believe the Great Reset to be the greatest threat to humanity in the history of the universe.

Johnson in the UK mentioned resetting the other day, the man in Canada mentioned it recently, and Higgins talked of a new society and economic model the other day as well. Expect to hear more and more world leaders mention it. Many have already adopted the slogan "Build Back Better".

My advice to people would be to get out of the West. The future of the West looks very bleak. I hope people don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist. I've read about the Great Reset and it's frightening.

peasant · 10-10-2020 11:17am

Dionaibh wrote: »

Many have already adopted the slogan "Build Back Better".

IMO a much better slogan than "let's get back to the way things used to be" ...because like I said in a previous post, what we have (and are doing) right now is definitely broken...even before covid

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-10-2020 11:27am

Dionaibh wrote: »

And I don't remember asking them to reset the planet. What a coincidence that a pandemic happened to come along to allow them to reset the planet. I believe the Great Reset to be the greatest threat to humanity in the history of the universe.

Johnson in the UK mentioned resetting the other day, the man in Canada mentioned it recently, and Higgins talked of a new society and economic model the other day as well. Expect to hear more and more world leaders mention it. Many have already adopted the slogan "Build Back Better".

My advice to people would be to get out of the West. The future of the West looks very bleak. I hope people don't think I'm a conspiracy theorist. I've read about the Great Reset and it's frightening.[_b]

What exactly do you think is going to happen?

Have you booked your one way ticket to Moscow yet?

skooterblue2 · 10-10-2020 11:28am

peasant wrote: »

Do we really all need to work for money?

We call people who dont work for money "slaves". Its not nice

peasant wrote: »

Could we perhaps work for the greater good instead?

That is called Communism. That has been tried many times and it didnt work before.

peasant wrote: »

Do we need to consume so much crap and waste so much energy?

That is a leaf out of George Jones books, sure we can get by on gruel.

peasant wrote: »

Could we be happier and more kind to each other and the planet at the same time?

Being Kinder is a personal choice. I dont think it will end that way with an eat or be eaten policy.
I am guessing you are going to be the first one to live in this "Utopia"?

peasant · 10-10-2020 11:34am

skooterblue2 wrote: »

"slaves".

Communism.

gruel.

"Utopia"?

I like your open-minded style of discussion:D

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 11:39am

peasant wrote: »

IMO a much better slogan than "let's get back to the way things used to be" ...because like I said in a previous post, what we have (and are doing) right now is definitely broken...even before covid

But my issue with it is that it's all very vague. What on earth does Build Back Better mean? Build better buildings?

skooterblue2 · 10-10-2020 11:42am

peasant wrote: »

I like your open-minded style of discussion:D

What do you call a person who works for no money? They certainly arent free men with choice. Money gives you choice.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 11:43am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What exactly do you think is going to happen?

Have you booked your one way ticket to Moscow yet?

Digital enslavement of humanity, and the crushing of freedom (whatever tiny bit of freedom we have left). People will say we already have smart phones, but I fear digital ids, digital currency, a digital economy. I'm speculating here, of course.

Not yet, but I think Russia might be a good country to consider emigrating to. Only problem is the language barrier.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 11:45am

skooterblue2 wrote: »

What do you call a person who works for no money? They certainly arent free men with choice. Money gives you choice.

Yes, a d it's very important that money / cash is not got rid of. A lot of places are not accepting cash. Cash is very important. If it goes then banks will have massive control over human beings (tracking payments etc).

peasant · 10-10-2020 11:47am

Dionaibh wrote: »

But my issue with it is that it's all very vague.

There are two possible reasons why it is all very vague:

It is a hugely complex task to think and carry through a planet re-set. You have to have a vague outline of your ideas and goals first as your starting point. Get everybody behind those and then let's figure out the details

or

The detailed plan already exists, but its too scary and unfair for the masses, so let's keep it quiet and feed them positive unicorn and rainbow headlines instead.

I don't know either which one it is.
But I sincerely hope it's the first and not the second

growleaves · 10-10-2020 11:50am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What exactly do you think is going to happen?

Have you booked your one way ticket to Moscow yet?

If you watch the full 4 hour videos on the World Economic Forums web site it's clear they envision a kind of techno social credit system. Conformists will be allowed to eat and work and leave their house. "Bad" people will be sanctioned.

All wrapped up in the usual climate, antiracist, covid waffle.

The problem goes deeper than oppression itself, it is the corruption which leads ordinary people to say "it's not that bad" or pretend it is a bright, shining wonderful future. No it is very bad, and no uncorrupt person would endorse it.

peasant · 10-10-2020 11:52am

skooterblue2 wrote: »

What do you call a person who works for no money? They certainly arent free men with choice. Money gives you choice.

What I was trying to get at was more in the lines of a universal basic income.
In the future, due to automation, there will not be enough work for everybody.
But there will be enough work that needs doing (social, health, etc) that isn't currently being paid.

Pay everybody some money and then lets see what work they will find for themselves, either the traditional type or something new altogether.

peasant · 10-10-2020 11:55am

growleaves wrote: »

If you watch the full 4 hour videos on the World Economic Forums web site it's clear they envision a kind of techno social credit system. Conformists will be allowed to eat and work and leave their house. "Bad" people will be sanctioned.

All wrapped up in the usual climate, antiracist, covid waffle.

The problem goes deeper than oppression itself, it is the corruption which leads ordinary people to say "it's not that bad" or pretend it is a bright, shining wonderful future. No it is very bad, and no uncorrupt person would endorse it.

That sounds horrific :eek:

Would you perhaps have a link to one of the examples that isn't completely coated in sugary sweet waffle?

I haven't found one yet, Thanks

PMBC · 10-10-2020 11:57am

About thirty years ago I was had a good ie interesting job and was on 25k annually. I remember thinking that I'd be 'made' if I was on 50k.
When that eventually happened I found I was no better off - admittedly I had married and had children. I don't have the answer/s but I know that generally as income improves, above maintenance level, most people aspire to more/better and to raise their 'standard of living'.
I'm very interested in the idea of a Great Re-set and will read more to hopefuly understand better.

skooterblue2 · 10-10-2020 12:02pm

peasant wrote: »

What I was trying to get at was more in the lines of a universal basic income.
In the future, due to automation, there will not be enough work for everybody.
But there will be enough work that needs doing (social, health, etc) that isn't currently being paid.

Pay everybody some money and then lets see what work they will find for themselves, either the traditional type or something new altogether.

Let me guess how this basic universal income is, along with social housing for everyone is? Barely enough to survive and those that do work at gainful employment are taxes so much it is barely worth putting on your shoes for. That model doesnt last for long.

So how do we cull the population without upsetting the plebs?
Homelessness, drug addiction, autism, mental health problems, debt, strange new cancers and auto immune diseases. All great tools that have shot up in recent years.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 12:06pm

growleaves wrote: »

If you watch the full 4 hour videos on the World Economic Forums web site it's clear they envision a kind of techno social credit system. Conformists will be allowed to eat and work and leave their house. "Bad" people will be sanctioned.

All wrapped up in the usual climate, antiracist, covid waffle.

The problem goes deeper than oppression itself, it is the corruption which leads ordinary people to say "it's not that bad" or pretend it is a bright, shining wonderful future. No it is very bad, and no uncorrupt person would endorse it.

Yes, it is a truly diabolical and dystopian vision they have for humanity. But I have a strong feeling that it's the West they are targeting. That's why I suggest getting out of the West.

growleaves · 10-10-2020 12:10pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Yes, it is a truly diabolical and dystopian vision they have for humanity. But I have a strong feeling that it's the West they are targeting. That's why I suggest getting out of the West.

Personally I'm not prepared to flee to a strange country. Irishness is what I'm comfortable with. Who knows if it is even viable. Many Russians struggle to earn a living and drink themselves to death.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 12:10pm

peasant wrote: »

There are two possible reasons why it is all very vague:

It is a hugely complex task to think and carry through a planet re-set. You have to have a vague outline of your ideas and goals first as your starting point. Get everybody behind those and then let's figure out the details
or

The detailed plan already exists, but its too scary and unfair for the masses, so let's keep it quiet and feed them positive unicorn and rainbow headlines instead.

I don't know either which one it is.
But I sincerely hope it's the first and not the second

It's definitely the latter. Look at the detail in that image another poster posted. They have clearly been working on this plan for a long time. Indeed if you search for the Great Reset on YouTube you'll see a video from Davos 2019 about resetting finance.

s1ippy · 10-10-2020 12:12pm

The way humanity has always arranged society has been ever weighted in favour of the rich. Look back at the tithes up to the 1830s here, then the church had its stranglehold, for all the good that did.

Those with money see those without as lesser than them and don't mind their suffering. Aside from a passing glance, death and devastation doesn't affect us until we are literally suffering the effects of it. It's always been part of the natural order of things that for there to be "haves", it logically follows that there must be "have nots" and even those only barely getting by love to cast blame on those less fortunate than them.

With the amount of threads here about beggars and travellers, coupled with the massive recession only now beginning to rear its head, I think the levels of empathy on this island as a whole are about to rise significantly as we all find ourselves that bit less comfortable than we once were. Well, not all of us.

The population is being purged because resources are diminishing. Try your best to make sure you get what you need to maintain through the hard times, grow your own food and try and grow your wealth if you can.

If it's not too late, definitely don't have children because the future is not going to be an easy one. If you have had them, teach them how to maintain crops and livestock and work to get off the grid if at all possible.

What we're experiencing now is only the very beginning of the next 40 years of intense weather events and major attempts by those in power to see as many of us die prematurely and stop taking what they deem as rightfully theirs.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 12:14pm

growleaves wrote: »

Personally I'm not prepared to flee to a strange country. Irishness is what I'm comfortable with. Who knows if it is even viable. Many Russians struggle to earn a living and drink themselves to death.

I understand, but Russia is just one of several countries one could consider. Basically any country with a strong leader. Even if you can't stand the leader, it doesn't really matter. I know Jair Bolsonaro, for example, is very divisive, but I can't imagine him rolling over and letting WEF take over. But do you trust Martin not to?

Thelonious Monk · 10-10-2020 12:40pm

3xh wrote: »

The environment. If everyone switches to Teslas and Leafs, what damage will that do to the environment? Both the damage around extraction as well as the electricity needed to recharge the billions of new electric vehicles.

No, we need to live in a world where people don't own cars. I've never owned one and likely never will. Currently our cities and towns are very badly planned so lots of people are reliant on cars, but that needs to change.
Giving everyone an electric car wouldn't really solve anything.

skooterblue2 · 10-10-2020 12:45pm

growleaves wrote: »

Personally I'm not prepared to flee to a strange country. Irishness is what I'm comfortable with. Who knows if it is even viable. Many Russians struggle to earn a living and drink themselves to death.

You may find yourself unwelcome here very shortly. 2030 will tell a lot if current trends are anything to go by. Remember it has happened before in countries in our time and before our time in Rhodesia, Congo, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Spain, north africa and India. You might very very grateful to be taken in anywhere.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 12:52pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No, we need to live in a world where people don't own cars. I've never owned one and likely never will. Currently our cities and towns are very badly planned so lots of people are reliant on cars, but that needs to change.
Giving everyone an electric car wouldn't really solve anything.

No cars? You mean everyone should cycle or use public transport?

Thelonious Monk · 10-10-2020 12:54pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

No cars? You mean everyone should cycle or use public transport?

Eventually yes that's the model we should be going towards, people can walk too.
What's the alternative, every citizen owns a car, and we build and plan our housing around this? Wouldn't that get messy?

nacho libre · 10-10-2020 1:02pm

Pie in the sky stuff. We'll all go back to the way we were before this started. A minority might hold on to their ideals, but johnnyflash will be back to posting about toilet decorum and how great FG are

Andrewf20 · 10-10-2020 1:20pm

My take on it is that we have become too weathly in society which means that we can afford to waste on so many fronts. Why repair a hole in jeans when you can afford a new pair? How may people push a trolley of shopping home these days compared to the 1980s? Everyone seems to drive now.

Dinners half chucked in the bin, driving when you could walk with an umbrella, central heating running with no one home, porch lights left on outside in the daytime, buying new curtains because the old ones are dated, upgrading a new kitchen just for a change of scenery, replacing a perfectly fine car because your 150K miles 2005 motor failed emissions on the NCT. All this stuff requires energy generated which is killing the planet.

I would like to see some measures that incentivize repair instead of replace. Its amazing what you can fix with some basic technical skills. My parents chucked out an old garden strimmer that was "on the blink" 2 years ago and bought a new one. I salvaged it, and it turns out it was just a cut cable, which was repaired in 30 minutes and is in my shed. People now seems to be lacking technical skills more than ever. You hardly ever seen anyone working on a car now for example. Even changng a flat tyre now often requires getting a tyre guy out to do it rather than it being a DIY job. Even basic electrical work like wiring plugs or checking fuses in plugs see's lamps getting chucked in the bin (probably).

Repair instead of replace never seems to get pushed at government level because it would be "bad for business".

Thelonious Monk · 10-10-2020 1:31pm

Yeah just on waste and mindless consumerism. How many of us have realised we don't need new clothes since this pandemic started? The clothing industry is one of the biggest polluters on the planet, and the whole thing is a sham, intent on making us buy more and more when we don't really need to. Mindlessly polluting for the sake of pumping out clothes that no one really needs is something we should really put a stop to.

4068ac1elhodqr · 10-10-2020 1:35pm

nacho libre wrote: »

Pie in the sky stuff. We'll all go back to the way we were before this started.

Incorrect.

The Great Reset (DAVOS/WEF/Bilderberg/Rockerfellers) is essentially the 4th Great Industrial Reveloution, but not over the next 10-15yrs (as it would normally have been), but instead compressed, crammed and pushed <1.5yrs or so (thanks to this handy 'small window of opportunity' on the back of a global vaccine mutli-delivery to 8bn).

And not just an economic reset, but a systematic, technocratic, global re-programming across all areas of daily life, 'a new (globalist) society', aka 'build back better'.

Blockchain digital identifers of persons, and objects(IOT) is the centrepeice.

3xh · 10-10-2020 1:35pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No, we need to live in a world where people don't own cars. I've never owned one and likely never will. Currently our cities and towns are very badly planned so lots of people are reliant on cars, but that needs to change.
Giving everyone an electric car wouldn't really solve anything.

Well now you’re talking like there’s a big reset indeed. Brought to you by people who haven’t a care in the world for you.

So instead of say 8 billion Leafs, we switch to 4 billion and embrace this shared ownership concept. You’ve to book a slot in a pooled car through an app.

Before you can book, you need to submit proof of your vaccines being up to date otherwise you might inadvertently infect the other community users of the pooled car. What a utopia.

How does this community deal with people leaving dirt in the car? Shoot them? Or just ban them from access to the community car ever again. They can walk to wherever they need to go. Just be back home before their curfew starts.

Maybe Klaus Schwab will be kind and provide a community Transit van that departs for the local health centre and shops once a week for these blaggards. Until it leaves on its schedule, if your sick or hungry, tough.

Pound for pound, Europeans are the most energy efficient people on the planet between things like car use, energy use of resources for industry, strides taken towards green technologies both in the home and in public settings, recycling, etc. Not to mention its on-the-floor birth rate in run ragged middle income families which is being propped up by permitted immigration from Africa.

We’re not the problem when it comes to energy use, the environment, climate change, etc.

India and China are with their poor standards of environmental regulation and 1.3b populations. And America too with its wanton use of energy.

The crux of this reset is the financial aspect. The monetary system. It’s the coming home to roost of all that Quantitive Easing not to mention the unhitching of the western currencies to the Gold Standard. Both ideas are great and create wealth immediately but over time, it’s exposed as a bubble. Printing money like they did makes the currency no better than Monopoly money.

Andrewf20 · 10-10-2020 1:37pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yeah just on waste and mindless consumerism. How many of us have realised we don't need new clothes since this pandemic started? The clothing industry is one of the biggest polluters on the planet, and the whole thing is a sham, intent on making us buy more and more when we don't really need to. Mindlessly polluting for the sake of pumping out clothes that no one really needs is something we should really put a stop to.

I agree. My wifes dad has clothes going back as far as 1969 that he still wears the odd time. Im similar. Most of my clothes are fairly ancient. T shirts going back to 2007 although I have a mound of them. I usually get 5-6 years out of jeans and hand them into repair shop to get them stitched up if holes appear. Only costs about a tenner a go.

BrianD3 · 10-10-2020 1:38pm

On a micro scale I changed some of my behaviours and attitudes around the time of the last recession and never went fully back to my old ways. This crisis is far more disruptive than the financial crisis and it is going on long enough now that I think there will be permanent change as people transition from gagging to get back to the old normal to adapting to a new normal. E.g. consumption of professional sport - maybe significant numbers will now be seeing it as pointless and a distraction and how living vicariously through millionaire sports people may not be a good way to spend one's time.

Thelonious Monk · 10-10-2020 1:40pm

3xh wrote: »

India and China are with their poor standards of environmental regulation and 1.3b populations. And America too with its wanton use of energy.

Irish people and Europeans pollute more per capita than Chinese. Also European countries fuel Chinese industry, as do all other rich nations. Those popcorn machines and waffle makers in Lidl weren't made in Ireland.
Australia is the one exporting millions of tonnes of coal to China. We're all making a mess of the planet, you can't point the finger at the Chinese and use it as an excuse to do nothing.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 1:41pm

Aubrey Embarrassed Stinger wrote: »

Incorrect.

The Great Reset (DAVOS/WEF/Bilderberg/Rockerfellers) is essentially the 4th Great Industrial Reveloution, but not over the next 10-15yrs (as it would normally have been), but instead compressed, crammed and pushed <1.5yrs or so (thanks to this handy 'small window of opportunity' on the back of a global vaccine mutli-delivery to 8bn).

And not just an economic reset, but a systematic, technocratic, global re-programming across all areas of daily life, 'a new (globalist) society', aka 'build back better'.

Blockchain digital identifers of persons, and objects(IOT) is the centrepeice.

Yes, I'm amazed that people seem to think that this will either be nothing, or just a few gentle suggestions for world governments to consider. Schwab co-authored a book entitled The Great Reset. I believe it's an attempt to take over the world and crush democracy.

Dionaibh · 10-10-2020 1:44pm

BrianD3 wrote: »

On a micro scale I changed some of my behaviours and attitudes around the time of the last recession and never went fully back to my old ways. This crisis is far more disruptive than the financial crisis and it is going on long enough now that I think there will be permanent change as people transition from gagging to get back to the old normal to adapting to a new normal. E.g. consumption of professional sport - maybe significant numbers will now be seeing it as pointless and a distraction and how living vicariously through millionaire sports people may not be a good way to spend one's time.

But the so-called new normal isn't normal. There's no such thing as 'old normal'. There's normal and there's this abnormal that the media are pushing.

Covid-19 & The Great Reset

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