Covid-19 & The Great Reset

So great to hear OP found the meaning of life. Wish him luck and byeeeee

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thanks for your useless response. Good luck, and blocked

No problem. Anytime.

peasant wrote: »

Like it or not, a global reset is absolutely necessary and pretty much unavoidable. The only question really is if it will be a controlled transition or a natural-economical desaster that will force us to rethink our actions and the ways we live.

The environment is broken.
Our resource "management" is broken.
Consumerism is a dying economic model.
Politics is broken.
Capitalism is in its last throws.
Wealth distribution is more unequal than ever.
Democracy is in danger.

I could go on ...

The coronavirus is forcing us to think new thoughts and try new ways of doing things. It certainly isn't the perfect kickstarter for a global rethink but it's the one were were handed and have to deal with.

The herculean task for the immediate future will be twofold:
1) Get people to buy into change ..giving up old familiar behaviour patterns is hard to do...even when you know they're plain wrong
2) Making sure that this time round the reset benefits everybody, not just a select few. Get people out of their fear and apathy and involved in shaping a better future for all of us ...the whole planet. We can't just leave to a select few to decide what's best for us (=them).

A reasoned post, I have to say, among some childish ones here.

But I’d have to ask, regarding a few things;

The environment. If everyone switches to Teslas and Leafs, what damage will that do to the environment? Both the damage around extraction as well as the electricity needed to recharge the billions of new electric vehicles.

We’re told to recycle. But those separated products sometimes end up either in landfill anyway or being burned in an incinerator by big business. Not the public on the street after they’ve bought into the recycle idea. Some recyclables are just dumped in the ocean in certain parts of the world but already energy efficient Europeans are brow beaten into lowering their thermostat by another degree.

Politics is definitely broken. Jobs for the boys after they leave office. Jobs for their friends whilst they are serving in office. I hope Klaus Schwab will target this in his plan. Dynasties are another problem. Sure, a family, a line of brothers, whatever could just so happen to be the best people for the political job but realistically it’s their craving for money, power, junkets, etc that gets them on board. Not a desire to be civic minded.

Wealth distribution. I’ve heard this is part of the reset alright. I’d love to know, if someone is on €100k now, can they expect more or less because of the great reset? Are we to do away with the likes of ever being worth $70bn personally again like Gates, Bezos etc. and level the wealth field with that money redistributed or do they mean stop people earning €200k and sharing that level of wealth with people on €30k etc so we’re all just on €50k, for example? Nothing is stopping the billionaires from giving away their money faster than they are now and not through these quagmire-like Foundations with their names on it. They don’t need a reset for that.

I actually recently read the UN Migration Pact because of all this stuff going on. One thing that struck me was that it was eventually agreed that there’d be no distinction between a political refugee and a pure economic migrant with regards to support offered to said migrants. The UN insisted to the members discussing the doc that there had to be no distinction, no difference in how each of any migrant could be seen by a signatory country. Why would they insist on such a demand on what is clearly two very different causes?

The actions of both the French and British governments in the English Channel is clearly one of collusion. It is not a genuine case of cat and mouse. If we’re told it’s to pay for our pension, it’s clearly a lie as anyone 40 or younger will unlikely see anything like the current pension system in place when they go to draw their state pension down. And these young males don’t become porters in old folks’ homes either, as has been alluded to. So as honest citizens, we’ve a right to be sceptical and demanding of those to which we give power.

Fair enough, peasant.

I agree with many of the solutions proposed by yourself however small they are in the grand scheme of things (and I mean that genuinely, not dismissively).

But my fear is that the powers that be, who are pushing to normalise this idea, already have the answers to these problems and any collaborative work with the public will be piecemeal and largely not implemented anyway.

Whatever happens will happen over the next generation.....

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Indeed; will change everything. Not a conspiracy anymore either, now they're out in the open with it. They said themselves the "window of opportunity is narrow", so they'll do everything they can to force it through in the next 12 months. I hope it's severely watered down or doesn't come to fruition at all, but all the biggest players are officially behind it. People are sleeping on this.

Who are they and how do we know they are 'officially behind it'?

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, it is the select few who'll be deciding what's best for us (them). As 3xh said, most of the plan has already been put into place. Highly doubtful their proposals will benefit us over them.

Still digesting the info on their website(s), but at first glance it doesn't sound all bad.
Of course it's all very heavy on positive sounding headlines and very weak on actual details how this change ist to be brought about and what concrete plans exist ...if any.

Having said that, an organisation that offers an article like this on their platform:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/04/let-s-ditch-the-economy-of-the-1-and-replace-it-with-a-human-economy/
cant' be all about greed and enriching the few by subjugating the masses, can it?

I know, most people (me included) really haven't got the time to become involved in something like this and try to influence where it is going ...we're all too busy keeping up with the big hamster wheel of work and paying the bills.

But corona is slowing down (if not stopping) the wheel for quite a lot of us ...we might yet find the time to read and think about this and perhaps even get involved?

Before this thread I was only very vaguely aware of the World Economic Forum ...this is changing now. The more this topic is discussed among ordinary people on ordinary (social) media, the better.

Dionaibh wrote: »

Many have already adopted the slogan "Build Back Better".

IMO a much better slogan than "let's get back to the way things used to be" ...because like I said in a previous post, what we have (and are doing) right now is definitely broken...even before covid

Dionaibh wrote: »

But my issue with it is that it's all very vague.

There are two possible reasons why it is all very vague:

It is a hugely complex task to think and carry through a planet re-set. You have to have a vague outline of your ideas and goals first as your starting point. Get everybody behind those and then let's figure out the details

The detailed plan already exists, but its too scary and unfair for the masses, so let's keep it quiet and feed them positive unicorn and rainbow headlines instead.


I don't know either which one it is.
But I sincerely hope it's the first and not the second

skooterblue2 wrote: »

What do you call a person who works for no money? They certainly arent free men with choice. Money gives you choice.

What I was trying to get at was more in the lines of a universal basic income.
In the future, due to automation, there will not be enough work for everybody.
But there will be enough work that needs doing (social, health, etc) that isn't currently being paid.

Pay everybody some money and then lets see what work they will find for themselves, either the traditional type or something new altogether.

About thirty years ago I was had a good ie interesting job and was on 25k annually. I remember thinking that I'd be 'made' if I was on 50k.
When that eventually happened I found I was no better off - admittedly I had married and had children. I don't have the answer/s but I know that generally as income improves, above maintenance level, most people aspire to more/better and to raise their 'standard of living'.
I'm very interested in the idea of a Great Re-set and will read more to hopefuly understand better.