Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Thespoofer · 09-10-2020 04:18PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Anyone else getting a real nervous feeling lately like in March? There's such an impending feeling of uncertainty that's upsetting my tummy, not for getting sick or dying but just what life will be like in another 6 months, christmas etc.

Instinct.

octsol · 09-10-2020 04:19PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

just over 850, 5% positive rate

God dats not great

landofthetree · 09-10-2020 04:20PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Anyone else getting a real nervous feeling lately like in March? There's such an impending feeling of uncertainty that's upsetting my tummy, not for getting sick or dying but just what life will be like in another 6 months, christmas etc.

Its bad alright.

Im just hoping that a vaccine is approved before Xmas.

Even if it takes till May or June to be rolled out at least the end is in sight.

IrishStuff09 · 09-10-2020 04:20PM

eigrod wrote: »

857 positive swabs from 16,522 tests. 5.19% positivity rate

Threw together a very crude page that will grab the stats without needing to do the maths here. Just pulls the data straight from the government API.

Boggles · 09-10-2020 04:21PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Threw together a very crude page that will grab the stats without needing to do the maths here. Just pulls the data straight from the government API.

Amazing. Fair play to you.

is_that_so · 09-10-2020 04:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The main reason I would be nervous at the moment, is that with numbers like that appearing in NI, there can be a rare condition that runs side by side with covid19 that affects children. We saw it happening in England last June, and also New York and Montreal.

That's Kawasaki and they are aware of it and watch out for it. As for numbers we probably need to look at Dublin for indications as it's been the longest at Level 3. Nolan says it's too early to say on it although some posters have been claiming a decline. If it does go down pretty soon then we might, just might stay at this level. If not then we can probably expect Level 4 to happen.

The Nal · 09-10-2020 04:23PM

So we're going to see #857 in the next hour or so?!

is_that_so · 09-10-2020 04:24PM

The Nal wrote: »

So we're going to see #857 in the next hour or so?!

Nobody knows any more! It could around that, a lot higher or a bit lower.

SusanC10 · 09-10-2020 04:25PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Anyone else getting a real nervous feeling lately like in March? There's such an impending feeling of uncertainty that's upsetting my tummy, not for getting sick or dying but just what life will be like in another 6 months, christmas etc. It's just impossible to have even the slightest clue what the world will be like by the end of this mad year

In a way I feel a bit better as I am more prepared now both practically and in terms of having an idea of what is to come. But on the other hand dreading it.

Oranage2 · 09-10-2020 04:26PM

The Nal wrote: »

So we're going to see #857 in the next hour or so?!

I think will see around 700 from yesterday.

If not then tomorrow could be over 1000

xhomelezz · 09-10-2020 04:26PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Anyone remember when Czech Republic were the star child on Prime Time etc.. back in March? they had Czech doctors on lecturing us about mask wearing etc..

Yup and I remember the two Muppets in the studio nearly laughing at them. Yet still better outcome on the death count.

Plus don't forget one thing, Czech rep. was basically fully open since June, while we still playing never ending half arsed restriction game.

Strumms · 09-10-2020 04:27PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I'll wager the event doesn't go ahead.

Probably as things stand it will. The organization have a LOT of say and sway in and around political life, a few TD’s are ‘friends’. If things take a nosedive health-wise sure it won’t as restrictions won’t allow it but if the heath situation is plateaued to around what we have now...hmmm we shall see

JDD · 09-10-2020 04:28PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That's Kawasaki and they are aware of it and watch out for it. As for numbers we probably need to look at Dublin for indications as it's been the longest at Level 3. Nolan says it's too early to say on it although some posters have been claiming a decline. If it does go down pretty soon then we might, just might stay at this level. If not then we can probably expect Level 4 to happen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/parenting/children-coronavirus-sickness.html

Really good recent article in the New York Times about that disease.

Boggles · 09-10-2020 04:28PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That's Kawasaki and they are aware of it and watch out for it. As for numbers we probably need to look at Dublin for indications as it's been the longest at Level 3. Nolan says it's too early to say on it although some posters have been claiming a decline. If it does go down pretty soon then we might, just might stay at this level. If not then we can probably expect Level 4 to happen.

Level 4/5 hybrid is guaranteed to happen. It was pretty much guaranteed since July, only the timing was up for question.

Cabinet are just buying time.

Schools will be closed for minimum 3 weeks.

The hope is they get rid of the complete nonsense of closing all non essential retail and publish newer guidelines in keeping customers and especially staff safer.

Of course the surveillance that they said they might look into last week, would be pretty handy now if it had been implemented 3 months ago, we may know what to keep open.

Ficheall · 09-10-2020 04:30PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Threw together a very crude page that will grab the stats without needing to do the maths here. Just pulls the data straight from the government API.

Great job

mountgomery burns · 09-10-2020 04:30PM

Boggles wrote: »

Level 4/5 hybrid is guaranteed to happen. It was pretty much guaranteed since July, only the timing was up for question.

Cabinet are just buying time.

Schools will be closed for minimum 3 weeks.

The hope is they get rid of the complete nonsense of closing all non essential retail and publish newer guidelines in keeping customers and especially staff safer.

Of course the surveillance that they said they might look into last week, would be pretty handy now if it had been implemented 3 months ago, we may know what to keep open.

NPHET recommended schools stay open in there level 5 letter on Sunday

SusanC10 · 09-10-2020 04:32PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

NPHET recommended schools stay open in there level 5 letter on Sunday

That was if we went to Level 5 on Monday. By the time we do actually get to Level 5, the situation will be much worse and there will be no choice but to close the schools. In my opinion.

is_that_so · 09-10-2020 04:32PM

Boggles wrote: »

Level 4/5 hybrid is guaranteed to happen.

Cabinet are just buying time.

Schools will be closed for minimum 3 weeks.

The hope is they get rid of the complete nonsense of closing all non essential retail and publish newer guidelines in keeping customers and especially staff safer.

Of course the surveillance that they said they might look into last week, would be pretty handy now if it had been implemented 3 months ago, we may know what to keep open.

In all probability yes something like this, but it's that call on Monday that gives them the time. I think that seems a bit long for schools but for me a full Level 5 is something they want to avoid.

Boggles · 09-10-2020 04:33PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

NPHET recommended schools stay open in there level 5 letter on Sunday

No they didn't.

NPHET stated in the letter if we want to have a chance at keeping schools open we go to level 5 last Monday midnight, they also said that may not be enough to keep them open.

Ficheall · 09-10-2020 04:34PM

Strumms wrote: »

He’s upset now because he’s stuck between a rock and a hard place. I spoke to him and it’s “ yeah I suppose I should give it a miss, but they’ll be, hmmm yes “...

Head says no, heart say hmmmm maybe...

That is a hundred dollar question, at best, and the answer is very obviously. A: No, he shouldn't go.

DebDynamite · 09-10-2020 04:34PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Anyone remember when Czech Republic were the star child on Prime Time etc.. back in March? they had Czech doctors on lecturing us about mask wearing etc..

I also remember a poster over on the “will you travel?” thread a couple of months ago on his holidays posting daily updates and photos saying what a great time he was having over there, saying life was pretty much back to normal, attending a music festival amongst other things.

mountgomery burns · 09-10-2020 04:35PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

That was if we went to Level 5 on Monday. By the time we do actually get to Level 5, the situation will be much worse and there will be no choice but to close the schools. In my opinion.

We'll see, I think the Unions will be their big issue in trying to keep the schools open.

And in fairness, at that point if it's not deemed safe for people to move 5KM beyond there home by NPHET I wouldn't blame them. Think it was a major consideration in the government rejecting the proposal, along with the mass additional unemployment.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 09-10-2020 04:35PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

NPHET recommended schools stay open in there level 5 letter on Sunday

The nphet terms of reference were to recommend restrictions that would allow schools and non covid health care to continue as normal.

With the government ignoring nphet advice the possibility of schools closing and non covid healthcare cancellations are back on the table.

mountgomery burns · 09-10-2020 04:36PM

Boggles wrote: »

No they didn't.

NPHET stated in the letter if we want to have a chance at keeping schools open we go to level 5 last Monday midnight, they also said that may not be enough to keep them open.

Read the appendix

Boggles · 09-10-2020 04:37PM

is_that_so wrote: »

In all probability yes something like this, but it's that call on Monday that gives them the time. I think that seems a bit long for schools but for me a full Level 5 is something they want to avoid.

The call on Monday guaranteed school closures and a curtailment of non covid health care.

The 2 core priorities that were to be protected above all else has changed.

NPHET are playing chess with this, the government and the HSE are playing checkers.

Paul Reid went from Monday

Sure we are grand

to

Ah actually we are not

in 4 days.

Boggles · 09-10-2020 04:40PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Read the appendix

Trust me I did.

Things have changed.

Strumms · 09-10-2020 04:40PM

Ficheall wrote: »

That is a hundred dollar question, at best, and the answer is very obviously. A: No, he shouldn't go.

Yes I spoke with my mother and a plan of ‘tough love’ will be the way forward. Has to be done.

His fûcking dopey yet similarly religiously brainwashed sister however will be no doubt “ahh it’s a few hours, Christmas David, and the men and woman need a dig out come on, be over before you know it”

Russman · 09-10-2020 04:43PM

It’s almost like NPHET have access to lots more information and indicators than commentators on the internet do......

Joking aside, surely if case numbers approach 1k per day and the associated increase in admissions becomes a reality, it’s only a matter of time before Micheál has a very uncomfortable press conference to do ?
Or will Dublin potentially stabilising buy us more time to see if Level 3 works ?

mountgomery burns · 09-10-2020 04:44PM

Boggles wrote: »

Trust me I did.

Things have changed.

Ok so you agree then that in the letter we would have moved to phase 5 and schools would remain open for the time being at least.

Industrial action would also more than likely have occurred if following that recommendation from NPHET.

I'm not convinced that when we do move to a higher level ( I agree on that much) they won't try to keep schools open then either.

jackboy · 09-10-2020 04:49PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Ok so you agree then that in the letter we would have moved to phase 5 and schools would remain open for the time being at least.

Industrial action would also more than likely have occurred if following that recommendation from NPHET.

I'm not convinced that when we do move to a higher level ( I agree on that much) they won't try to keep schools open then either.

A kite is already flying that mid term break will be extended. Teachers are communicating this to parents.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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