Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

The Oort Cloud · 08-10-2020 03:44AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Flu season has barely started - go away with your conspiracy BS

It's amazing that when you have a question or a difference in opinion, no matter what question that seems outside your thinking, it is called a conspiracy.

I don't accosicate myself with conspiracies.

spookwoman · 08-10-2020 03:59AM

From Week 35, 24th - 30th August to Week 39 21st– 27th September the HPSC received no notifications for confirmed influenza cases.

The first report of the season will be published on Thursday 10th October 2019. Probably be the same for this year as well

Ficheall · 08-10-2020 04:08AM

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

How many Irish citizens died of the influenza flu in the last 2 months also not specified. Has any-one here have statistics by day/date of deaths from Influenza virus for the last 2 months?]

Week 39: 0 deaths
Week 38: 0 deaths
Week 37: 0 deaths
Week 36: 0 deaths
Week 35: 0 deaths
Week 34: 0 deaths
Week 33: 0 deaths
Week 32: 0 deaths
Week 31: 0 deaths
Week 30: 0 deaths
Week 29: 0 deaths

Not as exciting as you might have been hoping for, but it is outside flu season so not very surprising.

I suspect there is 1 death missing, as the total deaths for the 2019/2020 flu season increases from 109 to 110 between weeks 35 and 36.

But to compare flu deaths from the previous years:
2019/2020: 110

2018/2019: 97

2017/2018: 261
2016/2017: 94

2015/2016: 86

2014/2015: 66

Hope that helps.

Oranage2 · 08-10-2020 05:57AM

Big questions over the plan now, level two clearly doesn't work so does that mean we'll be stuck in level 3 to 4 until a vaccine comes out. I think the government need to revise their 3 week old framework already.

I feel the Gardai checkpoints will slow the rate of growth somewhat but how long can they man those checkpoints we're throwing money and gardai overtime at a problem just to face it later down the road, not a good use of resources, and when they end it will be a free for all again.

Covid is mostly spreading in homes, in workplaces and schools and having a checkpoint won't really stop the spread there.

The nationwide level 3 will also slow the rate and even reduce the rate in some counties but with schools and work places still opened it won't have an effect on the major condenses cities especially if we're not dealing with the source of the spread.

It looks like we need a border patrol of some sort, not easy to implement but we won't reduce numbers in the border counties without it.

We'll probably see rises now for a week or 2 the after that it depends on how the restrictions are working and how many people are abiding by them. I think that level 5 scare has shocked a lot of people but how long will they be able to follow all the rules before getting fatigued.

CruelSummer · 08-10-2020 07:09AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Big questions over the plan now, level two clearly doesn't work so does that mean we'll be stuck in level 3 to 4 until a vaccine comes out. I think the government need to revise their 3 week old framework already.

I feel the Gardai checkpoints will slow the rate of growth somewhat but how long can they man those checkpoints we're throwing money and gardai overtime at a problem just to face it later down the road, not a good use of resources, and when they end it will be a free for all again.

Covid is mostly spreading in homes, in workplaces and schools and having a checkpoint won't really stop the spread there.

The nationwide level 3 will also slow the rate and even reduce the rate in some counties but with schools and work places still opened it won't have an effect on the major condenses cities especially if we're not dealing with the source of the spread.

It looks like we need a border patrol of some sort, not easy to implement but we won't reduce numbers in the border counties without it.

We'll probably see rises now for a week or 2 the after that it depends on how the restrictions are working and how many people are abiding by them. I think that level 5 scare has shocked a lot of people but how long will they be able to follow all the rules before getting fatigued.

Spoke to people living in New South Wales, Australia. They got to zero Covid - reopened and guess what, cases today. I agree the Level 5 leak has shocked a lot of people, but most people I see follow the restrictions when required.
Lockdowns are not a viable strategy and will have severe consequences on the population in my opinion.

fits · 08-10-2020 07:15AM

I think there will be close to 300 in hospital by the time the effects of the new restrictions are noticed and unless we get R number significantly below 1 that number will continue to climb. I hope level 3 works but I think we are likely to have level 5 at some stage before Christmas. Better sooner than later imo.

08-10-2020 07:26AM

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

It's amazing that when you have a question or a difference in opinion, no matter what question that seems outside your thinking, it is called a conspiracy.

I don't accosicate myself with conspiracies.

Info regarding number of Influenza cases, not fatalities though:

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/influenza/seasonalinfluenza/surveillance/influenzasurveillancereports/

https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/updates/latest_update_GIP_surveillance/en/

mr_edge_to_you · 08-10-2020 07:35AM

Listening to the news this morning, professional/elite sports is an issue and the decision to allow it continue needs to be reviewed.

Its no longer acceptable that a rugby match with 30 players on a pitch for 80 minutes, people lying in top of each other can take place but a cafe can't serve breakfast to 20 people in a clean and safe environment.

Thierry12 · 08-10-2020 07:36AM

Ficheall wrote: »

Week 39: 0 deaths
Week 38: 0 deaths
Week 37: 0 deaths
Week 36: 0 deaths
Week 35: 0 deaths
Week 34: 0 deaths
Week 33: 0 deaths
Week 32: 0 deaths
Week 31: 0 deaths
Week 30: 0 deaths
Week 29: 0 deaths

Not as exciting as you might have been hoping for, but it is outside flu season so not very surprising.

I suspect there is 1 death missing, as the total deaths for the 2019/2020 flu season increases from 109 to 110 between weeks 35 and 36.

But to compare flu deaths from the previous years:
2019/2020: 110

2018/2019: 97

2017/2018: 261
2016/2017: 94

2015/2016: 86

2014/2015: 66

Hope that helps.

Not saying your wrong but do you know anyone that has gotten a flu test?

Its a rare test, hospital only stuff I'd imagine

I would put any money that we test very few for flu and miss thousands and thousands of flu cases so those flu numbers are absolute bull**** as most medical figures are

I had to laugh yesterday

We got a mail from our HR department that we would not be getting the flu vaccine this year

They couldnt secure supply, a large multi national.

Sums up this country and world, cant even secure flu jabs and people think we will covid vaccines for everyone soon ;-)

Away With The Fairies · 08-10-2020 07:37AM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Listening to the news this morning, professional/elite sports is an issue and the decision to allow it continue needs to be reviewed.

Its no longer acceptable that a rugby match with 30 players on a pitch for 80 minutes, people lying in top of each other can take place but a cafe can't serve breakfast to 20 people in a clean and safe environment.

Is there such a thing as a safe environment with covid around?

Funsterdelux · 08-10-2020 07:37AM

CBear1993 wrote: »

Nope.

my partner And I and our wider social circles are about 200km apart on this island on both sides of the border.

On trips to both of our Home Counties since March we’ve asked the same questions to friends, relatives, ranging from 20-85. Even her granny who’s 97 knows of no one.

This isn’t just us as the view is very much shared by the general public. Have a look at Twitter.

Boards is full of scaremongers and exaggerators

Go forth and live thy life carebear93!

Enough of your inverted scaremongering

amadangomor · 08-10-2020 07:47AM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Listening to the news this morning, professional/elite sports is an issue and the decision to allow it continue needs to be reviewed.

Its no longer acceptable that a rugby match with 30 players on a pitch for 80 minutes, people lying in top of each other can take place but a cafe can't serve breakfast to 20 people in a clean and safe environment.

Disagree totally. Watching elite sport is a great outlet for people in these trying times.

I'm finished work today and going to enjoy the football tonight with a few beers. Similarly looking forward to the rugby games coming up.

Don't propose to take all the joy out of life please.

The risk seems to be pretty well managed in any case.

ginoginelli · 08-10-2020 07:47AM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Listening to the news this morning, professional/elite sports is an issue and the decision to allow it continue needs to be reviewed.

Its no longer acceptable that a rugby match with 30 players on a pitch for 80 minutes, people lying in top of each other can take place but a cafe can't serve breakfast to 20 people in a clean and safe environment.

You're 20 times more likely to catch covid indoors. The cdc have now recognized the virus as an airbourne pathogen. Unless that breakfast cafe is outside it is a high risk environment.

08-10-2020 07:48AM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Not saying your wrong but do you know anyone that has gotten a flu test?

Its a rare test, hospital only stuff I'd imagine

I would put any money that we test very few for flu and miss thousands and thousands of flu cases so those flu numbers are absolute bull**** as most medical figures are

I had to laugh yesterday

We got a mail from our HR department that we would not be getting the flu vaccine this year

They couldnt secure supply, a large multi national.

Sums up this country and world, cant even secure flu jabs and people think we will covid vaccines for everyone soon ;-)

If there is any influenza about it will be captured within the statistics of confirmed cases. Most diagnoses of it are clinical as the course tends to have a characteristically abrupt onset with a pretty severely (not usually severe in terms of needing hospital) symptomatic course, and GPs report what they think are probable cases. These times symptomatic people get tested for Covid to help eliminate that, although the way Influenza incapacitates from the outset I can't see how people can get themselves to a test centre if they live alone or are stricken down together in a household. There will be more requirement for testing to come to households.

As regards the supply the manufacturers didn't ramp it up this year, either because of inability to do so or lack of foresight. Regarding the latter my own pharmacist yesterday strangely said to me that "the demand couldn't have been anticipated, would could have known so many would want it". That's the sort of thinking I suspect to stretch way up into administrations.

mandrake04 · 08-10-2020 07:49AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Spoke to people living in New South Wales, Australia. They got to zero Covid - reopened and guess what, cases today. I agree the Level 5 leak has shocked a lot of people, but most people I see follow the restrictions when required.
Lockdowns are not a viable strategy and will have severe consequences on the population in my opinion.

That’s not strictly true

NSW reopened at start of June, everything inc pubs have been open since start of July. Very low cases mostly in Quarantine and although community cases have been very low last few weeks today’s cases are linked to a known cluster in Liverpool hospital.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-cases/nsw

Funsterdelux · 08-10-2020 07:50AM

ginoginelli wrote: »

You're 20 times more likely to catch covid indoors. The cdc have now recognized the virus as an airbourne pathogen. Unless that breakfast cafe is outside it is a high risk environment.

What about ice cream parlours?

Kiwi in IE · 08-10-2020 07:56AM

ginoginelli wrote: »

You're 20 times more likely to catch covid indoors. The cdc have now recognized the virus as an airbourne pathogen. Unless that breakfast cafe is outside it is a high risk environment.

So what are we going to do about that? Not eat out, travel, play/watch sport, go to concerts, cinema, theatre, go shopping, have house parties, have friends/relatives from more than 2 different households over, travel abroad, go on holiday locally etc, etc etc until there is a vaccine? Even if a vaccine takes several years? Even if there is no vaccine at all? What is going to happen to all the people who work and own businesses in the above sectors? What is going to happen without the revenue collected from those businesses and people? What is going to happen to our lives, relationships and mental health? People need to wake up very, very quickly and stop giving the government the message that this is what we want with this ridiculous outrage about house parties, sports team celebrating etc.

patnor1011 · 08-10-2020 07:59AM

The Oort Cloud wrote: »

It's amazing that when you have a question or a difference in opinion, no matter what question that seems outside your thinking, it is called a conspiracy.

I don't accosicate myself with conspiracies.

Lol, some posters here are a part of COVID doomsday conspiracy. They just do not like other conspiracies while enjoying their own one.

caveat emptor · 08-10-2020 08:02AM

Think everyone needs to chill out. It’s analogous to being on a boat when a wave is coming.

You steer into it and get over it.

If you believe that there is no wave and carry on in the direction you want the sea will flip you on your arse.

That’s my thought for the day. Stay safe.

Jinglejangle69 · 08-10-2020 08:05AM

fits wrote: »

I think there will be close to 300 in hospital by the time the effects of the new restrictions are noticed and unless we get R number significantly below 1 that number will continue to climb. I hope level 3 works but I think we are likely to have level 5 at some stage before Christmas. Better sooner than later imo.

Better sooner than later why?

So we open back up quicker then close again??

What's the benefit of opening and closing quicker.

Surely it's all the same in the long run.

Funsterdelux · 08-10-2020 08:07AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Lol, some posters here are a part of COVID doomsday conspiracy. They just do not like other conspiracies while enjoying their own one.

My conspiracy is better than yours, nah nah nah nah nah

amadangomor · 08-10-2020 08:11AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Think everyone needs to chill out. It’s analogous to bring on a boat when a wave is coming.

You steer into it and get over it.

If you believe that there is no wave and carry on in the direction you want the sea will flip you on your arse.

That’s my thought for the day. Stay safe.

Problem is that there are people on the boat who are all paddling in the opposite direction (not wearing masks etc.) and even a small wave will cause the boat to capsize.

lawrencesummers · 08-10-2020 08:13AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Think everyone needs to chill out. It’s analogous to bring on a boat when a wave is coming.

You steer into it and get over it.

If you believe that there is no wave and carry on in the direction you want the sea will flip you on your arse.

That’s my thought for the day. Stay safe.

Some boats are bigger than others and couldn’t give a fawk about ripples.

mr_edge_to_you · 08-10-2020 08:14AM

amadangomor wrote: »

Problem is that there are people on the boat who are all paddling in the opposite direction (not wearing masks etc.) and even a small wave will cause the boat to capsize.

If we're going with boat analogies......
"ICEBERG - RIGHT AHEAD"

caveat emptor · 08-10-2020 08:16AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Some boats are bigger than others and couldn’t give a fawk about ripples.

True but a rising tide lifts all boats.

lawrencesummers · 08-10-2020 08:16AM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

If we're going with boat analogies......
"ICEBERG - RIGHT AHEAD"

I don’t think that crowd of snobs use the word right. They say port.

Funsterdelux · 08-10-2020 08:18AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Think everyone needs to chill out. It’s analogous to being on a boat when a wave is coming.

You steer into it and get over it.

If you believe that there is no wave and carry on in the direction you want the sea will flip you on your arse.

That’s my thought for the day. Stay safe.

mandrake04 · 08-10-2020 08:20AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I don’t think that crowd of snobs use the word right. They say port. Starboard

FYP

lawrencesummers · 08-10-2020 08:23AM

mandrake04 wrote: »

FYP

There is always some fish that will take the Bait

is_that_so · 08-10-2020 08:23AM

ginoginelli wrote: »

You're 20 times more likely to catch covid indoors. The cdc have now recognized the virus as an airbourne pathogen. Unless that breakfast cafe is outside it is a high risk environment.

It's the post-sport activity that is the issue.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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