Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

FintanMcluskey · 07-10-2020 10:34PM

niallo27 wrote: »

If your lot get rid of mconkey we will get rid of feeney

You cannot suggest Mconkey is Feeleys equivalent.

Mconkey is a bat **** crazy egg head, get rid of Gemma Doherty, thats like for like

Plumbthedepths · 07-10-2020 10:34PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Agreed. Anyone who thinks the figures are massaged obviously should be ignored but that kind of tin foil hattery has to be called out.

My advice was for Jingle. You have been fishing for a row all day. He seems to be the only one willing to bite. Have a good one.

bb1234567 · 07-10-2020 10:34PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Someone mentioned 50k of drink being sold in local shops each week. and people actually think this new way of living is keeping us healthy and 'safe'..christ above.

In the whole country? That doesn't seem like a lot

What is the average>?

niallo27 · 07-10-2020 10:34PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Yeah some don't get that.

If the unemployment level rises high enough, our access to money is restricted, certaintly at favourable interest rates according to PD.

Its not money vs health unfortunately, money is health

Health is also mental health and social health, something that seems to be been forgotten in all of this.

technocrat · 07-10-2020 10:36PM

UsBus wrote: »

It seems Rte and virgin just want an opposing opinion with medical background on to stir the pot. It's dangerous have Martin Feely on to spout some of his opinions.
He might not be on again for a while after letting one rip live on air....

Yes it's called balanced debate, and thank god for it!

Seamai · 07-10-2020 10:37PM

Un1corn wrote: »

Meanwhile China has only 7 cases today. Is it time we adopted their approach? Strict lockdown. Barricade people into houses. No flights into the country without quarantine. For a country with 1.5 billion people to only have 7 new cases is extraordinary.

It is extraordinary, if only you could believe it.

Plumbthedepths · 07-10-2020 10:37PM

Un1corn wrote: »

Meanwhile China has only 7 cases today. Is it time we adopted their approach? Strict lockdown. Barricade people into houses. No flights into the country without quarantine. For a country with 1.5 billion people to only have 7 new cases is extraordinary.

Ah the Chinese a bastion of honesty in the wilderness.

Kermit.de.frog · 07-10-2020 10:38PM

Was Michael Healy Rae always this much of a gob****e?

UsBus · 07-10-2020 10:38PM

niallo27 wrote: »

If your lot get rid of mconkey we will get rid of feeney

"Your lot"...?? We truly are fc#ked....

Have a look at Netherlands, Germany, Italy & Spain to see what's coming down the tracks.

What should Government do..? I'd say borrow 10 - 20 billion while we have negative interest rates. Put the PUP in place for people and lock down till January. Get over the winter and see what we can do about ICU capacity. We'll also be a few months closer to a possible vaccine. Not a nice idea at all, but we are in serious trouble here now.

Gods Gift · 07-10-2020 10:38PM

Personal responsibility.

Get ta fook.

Widdensushi · 07-10-2020 10:39PM

Un1corn wrote: »

Meanwhile China has only 7 cases today. Is it time we adopted their approach? Strict lockdown. Barricade people into houses. No flights into the country without quarantine. For a country with 1.5 billion people to only have 7 new cases is extraordinary.

Do you believe it? Considering other countries believe they got the virus from frozen products from China I would be sceptical

HBC08 · 07-10-2020 10:40PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good luck with that. Does he actually think its a viable proposal. Just bring in MUP, its been talked about for long enough

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1313918185247309824?s=19

Crazy suggestion,it'll never happen though.
If they tried this they also have to have a hard border with the North!

They thought about trying this in Nova Scotia.I spent a summer there and they are proper sauce monsters

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5504489

Un1corn · 07-10-2020 10:42PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Do you believe it? Considering other countries believe they got the virus from frozen products from China I would be sceptical

I am not sure I really believe the Chinese figures. Like 1.5 Billion people is huge and I guess it is pretty dense. They had some strict lockdowns but even so I am not sure their claims are credible. But why would they pretend? It just doesn't seem plausible at all.

jammiedodgers · 07-10-2020 10:43PM

Un1corn wrote: »

Meanwhile China has only 7 cases today. Is it time we adopted their approach? Strict lockdown. Barricade people into houses. No flights into the country without quarantine. For a country with 1.5 billion people to only have 7 new cases is extraordinary.

Unbelievable some would say...

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Was Michael Healy Rae always this much of a gob****e?

Well his father was a gobshíte, his father's father was a gobshíte, his father's father's father was a gobshíte. Poor Michael never had a chance really

hmmm · 07-10-2020 10:43PM

UsBus wrote: »

What should Government do..? I'd say borrow 10 - 20 billion while we have negative interest rates. Put the PUP in place for people and lock down till January. Get over the winter and see what we can do about ICU capacity. We'll also be a few months closer to a possible vaccine. Not a nice idea at all, but we are in serious trouble here now.

I know where you're coming from, but the evidence we have so far seems to be that Level 3 is sufficient to stop the increase in new cases. It's difficult to see how Level 5 is going to be much faster at getting case numbers down, unless we close schools which very few want.

If we can manage this under Level 3 we're not doing too badly - the hospitality industry will need a bailout, but most people will still have a job and the government can finance itself.

I think myself that the emphasis now has to be on trying to control that group of people who don't care whether it is level 1, 3, 5 or 999 . Get the riot squad out at the weekend, break up the house parties, fine businesses who allow people without masks to enter.

ACitizenErased · 07-10-2020 10:43PM

Un1corn wrote: »

Meanwhile China has only 7 cases today. Is it time we adopted their approach? Strict lockdown. Barricade people into houses. No flights into the country without quarantine. For a country with 1.5 billion people to only have 7 new cases is extraordinary.

It's almost as if... it's not true.

TexasTornado · 07-10-2020 10:44PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

That they bombarded us with stats and charts like they haven't in ages.

Trying to justify their level 5 hysteria.

That's not me saying they massaged the figures.

Massaging is hiding or bending the truth to suit a narrative.

What they put up is the truth.

So yeah once again, where did u say they massaged the figures?

I'll ask you one last time and that's it.

You responded to the figures by saying Trying to justify their level 5 hysteria.

Why did you say that immediately after the numbers where released?

For the record and before you answer I don't think you are an honest operator and you've got called out on it numerous times before today.

Benimar · 07-10-2020 10:45PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Was there a backlog included in the figures today?

No.

624 swabs. 611 announced cases.

hmmm · 07-10-2020 10:45PM

Un1corn wrote: »

I am not sure I really believe the Chinese figures. Like 1.5 Billion people is huge and I guess it is pretty dense. They had some strict lockdowns but even so I am not sure their claims are credible. But why would they pretend? It just doesn't seem plausible at all.

I believe the Chinese figures, it suits a few politicians (e.g. Trump and his fans) to say they are lying because they've made such a mess of their own response.

China is now largely open for business, air travel is nearly recovered, tourism, bars, no social distancing. Their response to even small number of cases is overwhelming - shutting down cities, mass testing millions of people.

Un1corn · 07-10-2020 10:48PM

hmmm wrote: »

I believe the Chinese figures, it suits a few politicians (e.g. Trump and his fans) to say they are lying because they've made such a mess of their own response.

China is now largely open for business, air travel is nearly recovered, tourism, bars, no social distancing. Their response to even small number of cases is overwhelming - shutting down cities, mass testing millions of people.

I wouldn't say air travel has recovered. You can barely even get a flight into the country.

hmmm · 07-10-2020 10:49PM

Un1corn wrote: »

I wouldn't say air travel has recovered. You can barely even get a flight into the country.

I mean domestic travel within China - I think air travel is back to nearly 100% of pre-pandemic levels. There is a substantial domestic air travel industry.

07-10-2020 10:51PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Influenza will mutate to a less harmful form over time.

Stand to be corrected but Coronaviruses do not mutate as quickly so Covid 19 will be around in this or very similar form for quite a while.

OC-43 is thought to have caused Russian Flu which killed at least a million people in 1889. It’s a coronavirus. One of the 4 that causes some of the common colds. A combination of acquired resistance and weakening over time resulted in the virus becoming less deadly. Still in some cases can cause severe bronchitis, pneumonia and be a trigger for some autoimmune diseases and other conditions however

growleaves · 07-10-2020 10:52PM

Un1corn wrote: »

Meanwhile China has only 7 cases today. Is it time we adopted their approach? Strict lockdown. Barricade people into houses. No flights into the country without quarantine. For a country with 1.5 billion people to only have 7 new cases is extraordinary.

No, it's intrinsically evil to barricade people into their houses.

Kiwi in IE · 07-10-2020 10:54PM

People need to stop and listen to themselves. Suggestions of barricading people into their houses, getting the ‘riot squad’ to break up house parties, getting the army in to control peoples movements. These attitudes, which are getting more and more extreme and seemingly prevalent, are 1000 times more frightening than the virus.

Non solum non ambulabit · 07-10-2020 10:54PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

It's not an ideal situation for anyone, is it? I could say that you obviously don't have an extremely vulnerable family member, but that's not my style.
Your kids will survive.

If your family member is that vulnerable then you need to ensure they are protected. That is your responsibility.

Birdie Num Num · 07-10-2020 10:56PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

So it's not dangerous for Professors to suggest bankrupting the state going for Zero Covid, but it is for a respected doctor to offer his opinions as to a way forward...I see.

Who suggested bankrupting the state? Haven’t heard anyone suggest that to date as a solution. Did someone actually suggest it?

Kiwi in IE · 07-10-2020 10:58PM

Birdie Num Num wrote: »

Who exact suggested bankrupting the state? Haven’t heard anyone suggest that to date as a solution. Did someone actually suggest it?

What do you think is going to happen if prolonged lockdowns continue? When those who raise revenue for the state are not allowed to open their businesses?

caveat emptor · 07-10-2020 10:58PM

Birdie Num Num wrote: »

Who exact suggested bankrupting the state? Haven’t heard anyone suggest that to date as a solution. Did someone actually suggest it?

No it's a sport on here to suggest somebody random said something non related to anything and use that as a reason as to why we shouldn't control the virus.

For instance. "What are we going to do close the border? what about N.I?":pac:

frisbeeface · 07-10-2020 10:59PM

I'm surprised there isn't more focus on workplaces getting their staff to return to work unnecessarily. I'm in Dublin and I'd say the majority of my friends with office jobs that can be done from home are back into offices in some capacity. It's not as dramatic as the videos of people drinking together, but the numbers must be huge.

hmmm · 07-10-2020 10:59PM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

People need to stop and listen to themselves. Suggestions of barricading people into their houses, getting the ‘riot squad’ to break up house parties, getting the army in to control peoples movements. These attitudes, which are getting more and more extreme and seemingly prevalent, are 1000 times more frightening than the virus.

For you maybe, but I think there is a large section of the population (and business community) who are tired of doing everything they can to limit the spread of this virus and seeing a smaller group flouting the rules. And we don't need the riot squad to break up house parties, a Guard calling to the door or a fine on the home-owner will stop most of them. So perhaps less of the "extreme" paranoia.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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