Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Arghus · 06-10-2020 10:38PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

The cases have been high now for several weeks. Has there been a significant increase in hospitalisations?

Answer ... No.

What?

What are you talking about? There has been a significant increase in hospitalisations.

is_that_so · 06-10-2020 10:39PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Has anyone got a view on the rent a crowd anti vaccine, anti mask, anti everything that are marching with impunity while the rest of us are observing the rules.

Contrast to those who observe. I am sick of this now.

Surely there is a balance in law between free speech and encitement for the greater good of society now and then. I dunno. Even for the period of the L3 thing would be good to shut them up wouldn't it?

I suppose it will give them the publicity they crave though.

Ignoring them works for me. All that can be done is targeting organisers.

GooglePlus · 06-10-2020 10:39PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Has anyone got a view on the rent a crowd anti vaccine, anti mask, anti everything that are marching with impunity while the rest of us are observing the rules.

Contrast to those who observe. I am sick of this now.

Surely there is a balance in law between free speech and encitement for the greater good of society now and then. I dunno. Even for the period of the L3 thing would be good to shut them up wouldn't it?

I suppose it will give them the publicity they crave though.

It brings me peace knowing they exist as I know things could be a lot worse. Imagine being them.

John O.Groats · 06-10-2020 10:41PM

rusty cole wrote: »

Phil HOGAN! or freddy krueger.:D

Deep Throat maybe?:rolleyes:

06-10-2020 10:41PM

I was reading a totally unrelated book last night and there was story about SOAP in it ok. it described how a doctor named Semmelweis noticed how 1 in 5 women died in childbirth due to infection from doctors not washing their hands. It never happened when midwives were there because midwives practiced religious hygiene and doctors are notorious for not doing so.

Anyway he got them to was their hands and death plummeted by over 90%...it was a huge breakthrough!! Right??? you know how the arrogant and established doctors treated semmelweis???the temerity of him highlighting the issue??
they had him struck off and he went mad in a psychiatric ward!!! poor Dr Feeny eh!!

This is how the luke O' neils, the McConkeys and the Holohans treat any view contrary to their own..history is full of this stuff!!! doctors are ego maniacs too. Sociopaths are not exclusive to wall street or broadmoor!

Eod100 · 06-10-2020 10:43PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That café in Cork seeded other workplaces and I believe at least one school.

Yeah I'd be curious how cases are linked to specific places. Know Cork pub posted on social media that HSE notified them that there were positive cases among same customer group there and some of their staff since tested positive. Wonder would that be defined as close contact or traced to pub?

If staff in restaurant where positive case was can get referred for test as close contact would think teachers in a class for a few hours with a positive case should be too but maybe the decision isn't black and white.

is_that_so · 06-10-2020 10:48PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Yeah I'd be curious how cases are linked to specific places. Know Cork pub posted on social media that HSE notified them that there were positive cases among same customer group there and some of their staff since tested positive. Wonder would that be defined as close contact or traced to pub?

I think they track it back to a person and location within that window they use and if they can't it becomes community.

If staff in restaurant where positive case was can get referred for test as close contact would think teachers in a class for a few hours with a positive case should be too but maybe the decision isn't black and white.

The HSE have been saying for weeks that they take it case by case in schools. Some they may decide need to be tested and some don't.

stephenjmcd · 06-10-2020 10:50PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Tough. They and you seem to want this thing to just spread now because the snowflakes can't cope. God love them.

Every other coping person is ok. But I get that you might be judgy and provocative. That's fine. Without that the site is dead.

Absolutely despise that word "snowflakes".

Some people really are struggling, know of a few myself.

Some people on this forum (not saying any of this is you now by the way) brush off mental health concerns and label people snowflakes but its a serious issue.

People I'd never have thought would struggle are having really bad issues, can't get near a GP to talk about it, so a few of us try to rally around them.

Some here would brand them snowflakes, some have no consideration for the mental health of others at all. Appearently its all just an excuse, have seen multiple posters say that.

Mental health services in this country are ridiculously under funded and already under serious strain. Only going to get worse during and after covid.

bloopy · 06-10-2020 10:50PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

The cases have been high now for several weeks. Has there been a significant increase in hospitalisations?

Answer ... No.

I think the last week should be taken as a start point - cases were high and things have escalated.
We should return in two weeks time and see if things have escalated as predicted.
Maybe it will, maybe it will not.
But we need to pick a date and see what happens. Instead of this perpetual "next two weeks" we keep getting handed.

06-10-2020 10:50PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Has anyone got a view on the rent a crowd anti vaccine, anti mask, anti everything that are marching with impunity while the rest of us are observing the rules.

Contrast to those who observe. I am sick of this now.

Surely there is a balance in law between free speech and encitement for the greater good of society now and then. I dunno. Even for the period of the L3 thing would be good to shut them up wouldn't it?

I suppose it will give them the publicity they crave though.

The black lives matter crowd were left alone as were a good few crowds organizing embassy protests.you cannot start cherry picking your battles.
It's like the gardai turning up to court for the licence review on berlin bar and yet saying **** all about the hotel who broke umpteen rules the night of golfgate!!!

igCorcaigh · 06-10-2020 10:51PM

So these "financial limits", would they be the EU limits on borrowing that we agreed with a few years back?

Spanish Eyes · 06-10-2020 10:51PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Ignoring them works for me. All that can be done is targeting organisers.

Would be good if msm (RTE) didn't report on them either.

I do understand that twitter and the like will do it, but hey.

Tenzor07 · 06-10-2020 10:52PM

Wonder what the flu death figures are for Ireland or have we to wait and see? Will the be recorded as Covid deaths if the person who died from flu had traces of Covid in them?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12797238/flu-killed-10-times-more-brits-coronavirus-14-week/

Trouser Snake · 06-10-2020 10:53PM

Christ Ciara Doherty would wither ya. Failing dismally to whip up a frenzy.

eagle eye · 06-10-2020 10:54PM

technocrat wrote:

Total spoofer. Get to zero and stay there? Impossible.

What's your qualifications?

Kermit.de.frog · 06-10-2020 10:55PM

It's vitally important the authorities act fast when the time arrives. The government has decided it is better to be reactionary rather than proactive for the first time.

Hopefully they have called it right. I don't think they have.

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1313521834139283459

Happydays2020 · 06-10-2020 10:57PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Absolutely despise that word "snowflakes".

Some people really are struggling, know of a few myself.

Some people on this forum (not saying any of this is you now by the way) brush off mental health concerns and label people snowflakes but its a serious issue.

People I'd never have thought would struggle are having really bad issues, can't get near a GP to talk about it, so a few of us try to rally around them.

Some here would brand them snowflakes, some have no consideration for the mental health of others at all. Appearently its all just an excuse, have seen multiple posters say that.

Mental health services in this country are ridiculously under funded and already under serious strain. Only going to get worse during and after covid.

NPHET got this wrong on many levels. For people who have been careful and value the little freedoms they have, they thought they were being taken away. For people who are anxious anyway, they now believe they are in severe danger and the Government does not care.

MD1990 · 06-10-2020 10:57PM

rusty cole wrote: »

luke on Neil was on the 6 O clock show plugging his new book!! FFS
He was spunking on emslef talking about how Pharma have amazing antidepressants on the horizon ties into the immune system.....of course Luke you probably have shares in the fecking companies now !

Everytime I hear from.

He sounds really excited about this virus & all they are finding out it now.

And probably how it has greatly raised his profile & bank balance.

06-10-2020 10:58PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Wonder what the flu death figures are for Ireland or have we to wait and see? Will the be recorded as Covid deaths if the person who died from flu had traces of Covid in them?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12797238/flu-killed-10-times-more-brits-coronavirus-14-week/

eh yes!! listen to the phrasing. for example they'll say figure tonight show another 20 people now in hospital with covid 19...

I'll explain it like this, most people have the warts or cold sore virus ok, dormant.

If you go into the hospital with flu, for elective surgery or with a compound fracture from five aside football, and they swap you for herpes or warts..then you'd be front and centre as case number 21 currently in hospital tonight as we speak WITH warts and cold sores!! one has feck all to do with the other unless you're old, sick or younger and have some undiagnosed anomaly which complicates matters.
Also remember the virus is counteracted by your immune system, some young people system can go into hyperdrive and scientists don't know why insofar as THEY CANNOT explain most autoimmune diseases

QED!

walshb · 06-10-2020 10:59PM

verizon wrote: »

Does it actually matter if he see's it not, this is school yard gossip. The two people involved can sort it out between themselves and will carry on working professionally together. Everyone who gets interviewed doesn't have to give their opinion on it to get some acclaim. "Thrashed" - for the love of god.

What?

In the middle of a pandemic that has serious ramifications for the whole country, and the Health Minister, 24 hours later us claiming he knows eff all about the most important interview of this government’s tenure.

That is an absolute disgrace, if this is what we have to accept and put up with..

And him not being pulled up firmly on it is also a disgrace..

Spanish Eyes · 06-10-2020 11:00PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Absolutely despise that word "snowflakes".

Some people really are struggling, know of a few myself.

Some people on this forum (not saying any of this is you now by the way) brush off mental health concerns and label people snowflakes but its a serious issue.

People I'd never have thought would struggle are having really bad issues, can't get near a GP to talk about it, so a few of us try to rally around them.

Some here would brand them snowflakes, some have no consideration for the mental health of others at all. Appearently its all just an excuse, have seen multiple posters say that.

Mental health services in this country are ridiculously under funded and already under serious strain. Only going to get worse during and after covid.

Good post, but give us another moniker for the snowflakes if you detest that so much.

Mental health issues are hidden. But it seems to me that those who shout the loudest are least in need of help sometimes. I hope you understand what I am saying.

There is far too much emphasis put on mental health. Even kids who couldn't make their Communion or Confirmation. I have heard some (IDIOT) parents say it will affect their mental health.

That is not a mental health issue at all, it is a disappointment, and just a postponement of gratification (mostly for the parents and the party after lol)

eagle eye · 06-10-2020 11:01PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

It's vitally important the authorities act fast when the time arrives. The government has decided it is better to be reactionary rather than proactive for the first time.

Hopefully they have called it right. I don't think they have.

Our government have looked clueless from the outset in this. I'm talking with governments not just the current one.
It's frightening to think that the other big party not in government is led by a woman who got covid and attended a funeral with crowds at it during the pandemic so I'm not seeing an improvement if somehow they ended up in power.

We need a strong leader who can stand up and tell the people that you'll do this, this and this or else.

Eod100 · 06-10-2020 11:01PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think they track it back to a person and location within that window they use and if they can't it becomes community.

The HSE have been saying for weeks that they take it case by case in schools. Some they may decide need to be tested and some don't.

Yeah makes sense guess it's based on probability vs knowing for certain original source of transmission.

Yeah I know, but I'd be curious the criteria they use to make that decision.

majcos · 06-10-2020 11:02PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

The cases have been high now for several weeks. Has there been a significant increase in hospitalisations?

Answer ... No.

Has there been a significant increase in hospitalisations?

Answer ....yes

24th of August - 22 in hospital

Six week later

5th of October - 147 in hospital

lee_baby_simms · 06-10-2020 11:02PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Wonder what the flu death figures are for Ireland or have we to wait and see? Will the be recorded as Covid deaths if the person who died from flu had traces of Covid in them?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12797238/flu-killed-10-times-more-brits-coronavirus-14-week/

They’ll be recorded as a Covid death. If you were hospital because of a stroke or heart attack and happened to have a asymptomatic positive PCR test and died then it’s a Covid death.

John O.Groats · 06-10-2020 11:03PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Has anyone got a view on the rent a crowd anti vaccine, anti mask, anti everything that are marching with impunity while the rest of us are observing the rules.

Contrast to those who observe. I am sick of this now.

Surely there is a balance in law between free speech and encitement for the greater good of society now and then. I dunno. Even for the period of the L3 thing would be good to shut them up wouldn't it?

I suppose it will give them the publicity they crave though.

The march should be banned but assuming it does go ahead they should be closely watched and if anyone steps out of line the full force of the law should be brought to bear on them personally and also on the organisers. That means punitive fines and/or mandatory prison sentences and none of the slap on the wrist mamby pampy kid gloves crap.

jammiedodgers · 06-10-2020 11:06PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

The cases have been high now for several weeks. Has there been a significant increase in hospitalisations?

Answer ... No.

I'd give you the numbers by themselves but you strike me as the type that requires pictures for things to be explained to you.

smellyoldboot · 06-10-2020 11:07PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

The march should be banned but assuming it does go ahead they should be closely watched and if anyone steps out of line the full force of the law should be brought to bear on them personally and also on the organisers. That means punitive fines and/or mandatory prison sentences and none of the slap on the wrist mamby pampy kid gloves crap.

Fcuk that. Lash them out of it. Healthy dose of the baton and pepper spray will knock some sense into these cretins.

igCorcaigh · 06-10-2020 11:08PM

jammiedodgers wrote: »

I'd give you the numbers by themselves but you strike me as the type that requires pictures for things to be explained to you.

Thanks. I was searching for that chart to reply to that post.

This information should be more easily accessible.

Can I ask for the source?

walshb · 06-10-2020 11:09PM

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Fcuk that. Lash them out of it. Healthy dose of the baton and pepper spray will knock some sense into these cretins.

Not a chance.

Gardai are afraid to fooking fart now due to the social media hysteria and mobile phone videoing

And I am not condoning brutality..but it’s gone ridiculously lax

Remember all this asshole water protesters and their claims of police brutality for simply being moved along?!

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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