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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • #212
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Stheno wrote: »
    one word - unions

    Nah, it's mostly down to pork-barrel government.


  • #213
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Ah lads. Who's doing the briefing so?! https://twitter.com/PTHosford/status/1313198179781877760?s=19


  • #214
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Can anyone recall how many covid patients were in ICU during the spring peak? TIA.


  • #215
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smellyoldboot wrote: »
    People in cars, often families are handy targets. Can't be having the poor Garda tackling drunk and drugged up session heads now. That's not their job.a

    Yeah, the drunk/drugged are too hard work methinks; really the problem is they don't actually have the numbers of guards that would be required to manage the difficult areas. Stopping cars is easy stuff.


  • #216
    Thomas..
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Thomas..


    Stheno wrote: »
    one word - unions

    And we all know it


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  • #217
    techdiver
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    Darwin wrote: »
    Ireland collects one of the lowest amounts of tax as a proportion of GDP in the OECD.

    You can't use Irish GDP as a reliable measure of that. Our GDP is massively skewed due to the number of foreign multinationals as a proportion of total output.


  • #218
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Ah lads. Who's doing the briefing so?! https://twitter.com/PTHosford/status/1313198179781877760?s=19

    Christ almighty this is an absolute mess


  • #219
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Unions work two ways. I earn substantially less than I would in private practice/industry. If pay was much lower in public sector, I couldn't justify working in the HSE.

    The HSE needs to be radically reformed


    They need to drastically reduce the amount of useless paper pushers you see at the likes of outpatient clinics, invest in technology and become a 21st century organisation

    Unions are a huge blocker in this.

    I broke my ankle last year. Every outpatient clinic I had a paper pusher log that I was there and make a follow up appointment. An app could do that

    Every xray I needed I had to have a porter wheel me in a wheelchair as the lift was broken

    Just two examples of chronic waste in one hospital


  • #220
    brookers
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    TexasTornado wrote: »
    We are now entering the realms of madness. The situation is going to be catastrophic in 4 weeks time and we'll then see a move to level 5.

    Pathetically bad governance

    Nobody wants to see the economy go belly up but even the head of ibec was saying this evening if the government have made a wrong decision, it will be terrible, schools probably will close then an we will have to lock down for longer and things will be far worse.


  • #221
    DebDynamite
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    Kivaro wrote: »
    So we are among one of the top spenders in the world per capita for health systems; yet we are at the very bottom of the table in Europe when it comes to ICU beds. I believe that at this very moment there are only 39 available ICU beds in Ireland.
    This, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason for the impending lockdown. And the government knows it could fall when the ICU capacity is reached. The lockdown will be announced this evening in order to protect the ineptitude of our very expensive health system.

    Also our hospital consultants are among the highest paid in world.


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  • #222
    GooglePlus
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    1000 cases in the next 7 days


  • #223
    fits
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Can anyone recall how many covid patients were in ICU during the spring peak? TIA.

    About 160

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  • #224
    MerlinSouthDub
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    TexasTornado wrote: »
    We are now entering the realms of madness. The situation is going to be catastrophic in 4 weeks time and we'll then see a move to level 5.

    Pathetically bad governance

    Case numbers in Dublin have increased by an average of 4% per week over the past 2 weeks. if the rest of the country does as well as Dublin in Level 3, then we'll be fine.


  • #225
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    I'm confused about level 3 wet pub restrictions?
    I saw 2 conflicting explanations. One that it's outdoor seating only and another that it's indoors with restrictions?

    So far when level 3 had been introduced it has been level 3 plus additional restrictions on the hospitality sector. It is believed that will be the case again.

    Wait till its announced. We don't know before that.


  • #226
    Eod100
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Christ almighty this is an absolute mess

    I don't get who would be doing it so. Donnelly?

    Varadkar on Clare Byrne apparently https://twitter.com/PTHosford/status/1313177211558662147


  • #227
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    1000 cases in the next 7 days

    A lot more than that!


  • #228
    begbysback
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Can anyone recall how many covid patients were in ICU during the spring peak? TIA.

    There was a diagram on the tv earlier, think the max was in the 50s


  • #229
    Thomas..
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Thomas..


    Spiderman0081 wrote: »
    He is funny though

    I'll say it anyone

    Donald Trump is one quick witted guy


  • #230
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Lundstram wrote: »
    So there we have it. As of midnight tonight we become the only country in Europe, possibly the world with a blanket ban on indoor dining. 180,000 jobs gone in the space of a few hours. Massive over reaction yet again. But hey, at least we have an extra bank holiday this year. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE

    It all feels a bit knee jerk. A lot of businesses will just throw their hat at it now. The mental carnage could be the greatest killer.

    Is there any stats done on supermarket/retail store workers? I see the same faces (touch wood) everyday, all through the non mask wearing phase and the mask wearing phase. They have come into contact with so many households, but I never hear of any of them being out sick with Covid.


  • #231
    TexasTornado
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    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Christ almighty this is an absolute mess

    I disagree with you on many things but you are 100% right here. This is an absolute shambles


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  • #232
    lillycakes2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭lillycakes2


    If they are afriad public Hospitals wont cope with a peak in cases, why not make a plan for private Hospitals to help their collegues with capacity, instead of blanket restrictions


  • #233
    polesheep
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070

    Rare words of wisdom for the majority from the orange loon: "Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life."


  • #234
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Thomas.. wrote: »
    I'll say it anyone

    Donald Trump is one fùck witted guy

    Fixed that for you


  • #235
    Thomas..
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Thomas..


    DebDynamite wrote: »
    Also our hospital consultants are among the highest paid in world.

    Matters fukk all though overall

    It's better to have them well paid


  • #236
    Goldengirl
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    smellyoldboot wrote: »
    People in cars, often families are handy targets. Can't be having the poor Garda tackling drunk and drugged up session heads now. That's not their job.a

    Totally agree .
    Give them overtime to stop cars driving home , but not to tackle the real reason our numbers are climbing , house gatherings and parties , with dangerous drunken teenagers ;)


  • #237
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    It’s alright for some comes to mind when Donald Trump tweets ‘Don’t be afraid of Covid’. He got treatments and a level of medical care that very very few will get.


  • #238
    titan18
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    I'd assume it's Donnelly, but Martin is fair cowardly not to be doing it


  • #239
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Twitter on about a extra bank holiday for 2020 and Bressie Leo V "romance" seriously WTF!


  • #240
    Wolf359f
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    begbysback wrote: »
    There was a diagram on the tv earlier, think the max was in the 50s

    Eh... In the 150's yeah... 155 at the peak in ICU with covid.


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  • #241
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    speckle wrote: »
    That's why I noted on the top of the post that they did not employ more staff but reallocated them. There is an interview with the guy in charge talking to the royal college of surgeons covid response team I can post later if you like. We need to stop finding excuses just do things. Not including you in that beacase asking questions always the right thing.

    And if we need more ICU beds they'll be reallocating staff. They are already asking nurses to volunteer for ICU. What this would mean, of course, is other procedures and treatments being cancelled.


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