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Three Ireland 5G

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  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    bazzz wrote: »
    Would you have access to a 5G capable phone? Probably easier to test out different locations.
    Then you could get a good idea if it's the router or not.
    I know they'll be adding their 5G router broadband soon enough.

    I'm living in the sticks in Co.Waterford and have been using the service since Monday(28th) night.
    It depends where I am in my house, but the speeds are between 350-550Mbps.
    Now there are drops as can be expected.
    Where my house is landline wise, we only have access to 12Mbps and almost
    0 upload.

    We are in the intervention Area for NBI and have been surveyed. But I
    wouldn't hold my breath, waiting for that. So Three 5G is very welcome.

    I should add the CEO of Three is from and lives here;)


    I unfortunately do not. It was a choice between a 5g handset or router. I opted for the router.

    Tbh, the new router has given me a pretty decent boost all the same, might however be one of those lucky nights, time will tell.


    Same as, not exactly the sticks, and a house a few hundred feet away has fibre. Lucky me and the neighbours are outside the area. Despite multiple k&n engineers telling me im close enough. Not been surveyed for the nbi but iv have seen them working close by. I count myself lucky iv got a mast near that not many seem to be on so i get okay 4g speeds.


    Anyhow i will try it in work tomorrow, if its not working there im thinking its either the router or they have them blocked some way.


    I mean iv coverage on the map and would happily pay up for an antenna if it ment i could get the 5g i just need to make sure i can use the router with the payg sim.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    Well it works. 220mb right at the edge of the coverage map in dundalk.
    I'll have to check better at home. Any suggestions on an antenna for 5g?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,595 ✭✭✭ Ubbquittious


    I think I'll stay away from this 5G codology. Sure it kills birds, causes covid and allows the Chinese to spy on you

    Stellantis: All the sh1t brands under one roof



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭ padair


    lankz92 wrote: »
    Well it works. 220mb right at the edge of the coverage map in dundalk.
    I'll have to check better at home. Any suggestions on an antenna for 5g?

    Maybe the following, not sure of this will work for you

    Huawei 5G AF9E outdoor boosting 5G antenna, peak gain 14dBi, frequency range 3300-4200MHz, easy installation – White https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083L1GY26/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_fab_HPeEFbY28AYAX


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    I had looked at that. I'll just make sure i can actually pick up a signal in some corner of the garden first.

    The map is fairly accurate in dundalk at least. We have 2 buildings, 1 is in the area and one not. Signal reflects this. Which makes me think even a slight gain would get me a signal at home. The house is in the area but the neighbours right behind me is in a blank spot.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭ Heraldoffreeent


    lankz92 wrote: »
    Well it works. 220mb right at the edge of the coverage map in dundalk.
    I'll have to check better at home. Any suggestions on an antenna for 5g?

    Good to know the SIM works in the router at any rate. I ordered the CPE Pro 2 from Sotel yesterday, delivery between Wednesday and Friday next.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    Gave it to a mate there to try at his house, really lives in the middle of nowhere. 5g all over his house but he's only getting 40mb ish. 4g running 15mb ish. He gets really bad signal.
    I'll recheck my own house after work again. I really should have signal. Lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭ Ten Pin


    Discussing on Newstalk now....it'll probably be mostly marketing hype but might be worth a listen

    Edit: Nope, not worth listening to, not a whole lot of additional info given


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    Been all over my house, garden and nearby fields. Nothing. Not a bit.
    Got onto them on twitter. Tried to tell me the devive has to be purchased from them or it wont work. Funny, i had it working earlier lol. Just admit the map is wrong. Your actually telling people they have to buy a new device costing them more money for the same result.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    Okay so the guy on twitter got back to me, a little more helpfull today.
    Nearest mast is 4g only, so iv no idea what mast the 5g is ment to be coming from.
    He said the 5g might come in an out at times but other than that he couldnt tell me much.
    Keep an eye on the site for coverage updates basically. I asked about a booster and he advised finding even a slight signal first, i'll try again when the weather is a bit better.

    The new router is getting far better speeds either way so i'll hold onto it. Roughly 50mb all weekend, over 100mb off peak. Vs the 10mb if i was lucky on the old one lately. Probly could get the same results for half the price but at least when the signal improves im ready. Im not holding out hope for the nbi crew lol


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  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Quackster


    Are you able to force the router into 5G-only mode? If the 5G signal is not coming from your nearest mast, that'll probably be the only way of picking it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    Quackster wrote: »
    Are you able to force the router into 5G-only mode? If the 5G signal is not coming from your nearest mast, that'll probably be the only way of picking it up.


    Unfortunately not. Both network mode and search are greyed out. From my understanding 5g still relies on 4g for some background stuff so you need both. Maybe when the broadband is offically rolled out i can use that apn and the settings will open up, available settings change depending on network form what iv read up on the router.

    The mast is right along the main dublin-derry road so there is a chance it will get done in future, its always beem kept updated and thats the only reason i can think why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36,071 ✭✭✭✭ ED E


    Quackster wrote: »
    Are you able to force the router into 5G-only mode? If the 5G signal is not coming from your nearest mast, that'll probably be the only way of picking it up.

    I doubt thats possible. There is no 5G SA in Ireland yet so youre limited to 5G NSA which is basically an addon to 4G. The 4G cell is still your primary serving cell so 5G only would mean no service at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭ selfbuilder1


    Hi

    Does anyone know if the three coverage map is accurate. I live out in the sticks and according to the map I am completely covered by 5G. I don’t have a 5G phone to test it out. I am hoping to get a 5G modem but don’t want to waste money if I have no coverage.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭ lankz92


    Hi

    Does anyone know if the three coverage map is accurate. I live out in the sticks and according to the map I am completely covered by 5G. I don’t have a 5G phone to test it out. I am hoping to get a 5G modem but don’t want to waste money if I have no coverage.

    Thanks


    50/50 i have no coverage, a friend does. According to the map both of us should.


    But in work we have 2 buildings, one is covered and one is not, the signal does reflect this.


    So out in the country id say take the map with a pinch of salt but in a town it seems accurate.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,024 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Quackster


    Hi

    Does anyone know if the three coverage map is accurate. I live out in the sticks and according to the map I am completely covered by 5G. I don’t have a 5G phone to test it out. I am hoping to get a 5G modem but don’t want to waste money if I have no coverage.

    Thanks
    Taking what ED E says on board, you need to be currently getting 4G and the cell tower you're getting 4G from must be 5G-enabled. Not so likely to work if the 5G signal you're within range of is coming from a more distant tower.


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭ jdon72


    Anyone know of any cheap 5G sim routers?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭ padair


    jdon72 wrote: »
    Anyone know of any cheap 5G sim routers?

    Ali Express 150e search for 5g hotspot


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭ Caspero


    ED E wrote: »
    I doubt thats possible. There is no 5G SA in Ireland yet so youre limited to 5G NSA which is basically an addon to 4G. The 4G cell is still your primary serving cell so 5G only would mean no service at all.

    Interesting, does this mean that an existing 4g antenna will be OK for use with a 5g router or would a new antenna be needed?



    Someone up the thread was looking for recommendations on an antenna for a 5g router. I previously bought a 4g antenna from Dipol to attach to a Huawei 4G router and it has worked well. They seem to have 5g antennae available, but I don't know anything about these yet. Haven't bought or tested any. https://www.dipol.ie/catalogsearch/result/?q=5g%20antenna


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭ Caspero


    lankz92 wrote: »
    Huawei h112-370... wasnt exactly cheap lol

    Where are the external Antenna in ports on this device lankz92? Looking at the Amazon pics I don't see the antenna-in ports, although I see the Huawei page does mention them.


    Edit - per Heraldoffreent's message below that device on amazon linked to is a slightly different device which doesn't have an antenna in port


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭ Heraldoffreeent


    Caspero wrote: »
    Where are the external Antenna in ports on this device lankz92? Looking at the Amazon pics I don't see the antenna-in ports, although I see the Huawei page does mention them.

    The one in the pic is the h112-373 it doesn't have external antennae connections.

    The one you are referring to is this one,

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000833768337.html?src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=494-037-6276&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&albcp=9441019410&albag=95283287465&trgt=296904914040&crea=en4000833768337&netw=u&device=c&albpg=296904914040&albpd=en4000833768337&gclid=CjwKCAjw_Y_8BRBiEiwA5MCBJrOMxakT_tTsjZq732rxMI0bkSeAWKJxTM06mE4tlFwaBw4854PhkBoC83YQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    You can just make out the rubber cap above the LAN ports, pull this back and the antennae ports become apparant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭ Caspero



    Ah I see, thanks!

    I see further back in the thread you mentioned the H122-373 has slightly higher throughput. Is that Wifi throughput or 5g speeds you were talking about?

    Edit - found a few reviews of the different devices.

    Looks like the H122-373 is smaller and faster on a few dimensions, and supports more frequency bands, but as noted by Heraldoffreeent does not allow an external antenna whereas the H112-370 and H122-373 each have 2 x TS9 external antenna ports.

    Second edit: Looks like the H112-372 might be a good option for those that like higher throughput (i.e. higher than the H112-370 but slower than the H122-373) and need an external antenna (which the H122-373 does not have). Per the product sheet here
    https://www.4gltemall.com/downloads/dl/file/id/469/product/1753/huawei_5g_cpe_pro_h112_372_specs_datasheet.pdf
    it does have 2 external 5g antenna ports (TS-9) and per the product comparison below, it has faster speeds and works with more frequencies than the H112-370.

    Sources: H112-372 & H112-370 spec: https://www.4gltemall.com/blog/huawei-5g-cpe-pro-h112-372-vs-h112-370/
    H122-373 spec: https://www.4gltemall.com/blog/huawei-5g-cpe-pro-2-router-review/
    H112-370 external antenna port details: https://www.4gltemall.com/blog/vodafone-gigacube-5g-router-h112-370-review/


    Would need to check the frequencies against what 3 uses to be sure though. Does anyone happen to know?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭ Heraldoffreeent


    Caspero wrote: »
    Ah I see, thanks!

    I see further back in the thread you mentioned the H122-373 has slightly higher throughput. Is that Wifi throughput or 5g speeds you were talking about?

    Edit - found a few reviews of the different devices.

    Looks like the H122-373 is smaller and faster on a few dimensions, and supports more frequency bands, but as noted by Heraldoffreeent does not allow an external antenna whereas the H122-370 and H122-373 each have 2 x TS9 ports.

    Second edit: Looks like the H122-372 might be a good option for those that like higher throughput and need an external antenna. Per the product sheet here
    https://www.4gltemall.com/downloads/dl/file/id/469/product/1753/huawei_5g_cpe_pro_h112_372_specs_datasheet.pdf
    it does have 2 external 5g antenna ports (TS-9) and per the product comparison below, it has faster speeds and works with more frequencies than the H112-370

    Sources: H112-372 & H112-370 spec: https://www.4gltemall.com/blog/huawei-5g-cpe-pro-h112-372-vs-h112-370/
    H122-373 spec: https://www.4gltemall.com/blog/huawei-5g-cpe-pro-2-router-review/
    H122-370 external antenna port details: https://www.4gltemall.com/blog/vodafone-gigacube-5g-router-h112-370-review/

    By throughput I meant from the network side, i.e 5G. I think download was 3.6Gb, as opposed to 2.6/2.8 for the 370/372.

    I ordered the CPE Pro 2, it was delivered to me Friday, I haven't had a chance to set it up and I need to get a sim sorted with the 5g addon etc, probably get around to doing it later in the week, busy with work and other stuff over the weekend, and until wednesday next.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭ Heraldoffreeent


    This doc gives a good comparison of whats out there Routerwise at the moment.

    https://www.router-switch.com/pdf/huawei-5g-cpe-pro-2-datasheet.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,613 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Caspero wrote: »
    Interesting, does this mean that an existing 4g antenna will be OK for use with a 5g router or would a new antenna be needed?

    OK if the antenna covers the existing 5G frequency range 3400-3800 MHz and the future 5G frequency range 703-788 MHz


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭ padair


    Got my 5g router but no 5g. Does anyone know what apn details are. Got full strength signal and paid for 5g service


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭ CivilEx


    padair wrote: »
    Got my 5g router but no 5g. Does anyone know what apn details are. Got full strength signal and paid for 5g service
    Did you get the 5G router working with the prepay sim padair?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭ padair


    CivilEx wrote: »
    Did you get the 5G router working with the prepay sim padair?

    Afraid not, I have sent it back.
    I was getting slower 4g speeds with the new router. I was getting full 5g reception but no boost in speed. I tried outside and no joy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 weeb


    padair wrote: »
    Afraid not, I have sent it back.
    I was getting slower 4g speeds with the new router. I was getting full 5g reception but no boost in speed. I tried outside and no joy.
    What router were you using?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭ padair


    weeb wrote: »
    What router were you using?

    huawei 5g cpe pro 2


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