Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Happydays2020 · 04-10-2020 06:17PM

Gael23 wrote: »

I think if level 4 was on the cards there would have been a cabinet meeting today

It will not be until Tuesday. I wonder whether there will be 3 levels allowed nationally. That would allow Donegal to move to Level 4. I don't think Dublin is going to level 4 but it will stay at level 3 for a few more weeks at least.

Gael23 · 04-10-2020 06:18PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Interesting week ahead.

Can't see a nationwide level 4 happening and don't think it'd make much sense but I can see nationwide 3 and Dublin heading to a 4.

Not with today’s numbers in Dublin that won’t happen. I can absolutely see an extension of level 3 for perhaps another week though

Icyseanfitz · 04-10-2020 06:19PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

I cannot stand people that want our Education system to close. It is the most selfish non-sensical approach and punishing a group of people at minimal risk of serious complications from Covid. Schools closed for 6 MONTHS, they are now open and not before time. Everyone in the school community wants them open, bar some people with serious issues on this thread who seem bothered on a daily basis that Education is continuing.

Not once have i said close schools, but please continue your tirade. A blended hybrid approach is the way to keep schools safe and open in the current climate.

But screw everyone who might have someone very high risk at home but has to either work or study in a completely unsafe environment so that mommy and daddy can get a break from the kids.

GooglePlus · 04-10-2020 06:22PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Not with today’s numbers in Dublin that won’t happen. I can absolutely see an extension of level 3 for perhaps another week though

One day's numbers don't pave the road ahead. The 600 odd last night should be taken as seriously as today's 300 odd. The trend is upwards and as they climb, the rate of growth does too.

Their job is to think in the future, not in the now.

04-10-2020 06:22PM

NI incidence rates per 100,000 are truly off the scale. If the six counties in the north were in republic counties would be in level 4 and 5. Derry strabane is 1000 per 100,000. Poor Donegal had no chance bordering that area.

screamer · 04-10-2020 06:24PM

Mr T is back tomorrow to BA Baracus the ****e out of covid....... aka more restrictions looming I fear.

Paddygreen · 04-10-2020 06:24PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Not once have i said close schools, but please continue your tirade. A blended hybrid approach is the way to keep schools safe and open in the current climate.

But screw everyone who might have someone very high risk at home but has to either work or study in a completely unsafe environment so that mommy and daddy can get a break from the kids.

Some mommies and daddy’s are even using that time to go to work if they still have a job to go to. The selfishness of people is unbelievable. We should all be home, it’s too scary and unsafe out there.

iamwhoiam · 04-10-2020 06:26PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Not once have i said close schools, but please continue your tirade. A blended hybrid approach is the way to keep schools safe and open in the current climate.

But screw everyone who might have someone very high risk at home but has to either work or study in a completely unsafe environment so that mommy and daddy can get a break from the kids.

You are in education and yet you can make allegations about parents motives for wanting an education for their children ? Shameful post

brookers · 04-10-2020 06:26PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Not once have i said close schools, but please continue your tirade. A blended hybrid approach is the way to keep schools safe and open in the current climate.

But screw everyone who might have someone very high risk at home but has to either work or study in a completely unsafe environment so that mommy and daddy can get a break from the kids.

Janey some people are so wound up, schools might have to close, thats the way things go, we have no control. Im prepared for anything to happen, not going to live my life giving out every 5 minutes because some aspect of keeping covid 19 at bay doesnt suit me. If students are at risk and staff, well they will have to close. Im not going to murder anybody over it. It will all pass, this time next year it will be a distant memory. People keep calm.

BobbyMalone · 04-10-2020 06:26PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

It will not be until Tuesday. I wonder whether there will be 3 levels allowed nationally. That would allow Donegal to move to Level 4. I don't think Dublin is going to level 4 but it will stay at level 3 for a few more weeks at least.

Is there a particular reason why a county can't be (say) level 2 and another level 4?

Icyseanfitz · 04-10-2020 06:27PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Some mommies and daddy’s are even using that time to go to work if they still have a job to go to. The selfishness of people is unbelievable. We should all be home, it’s too scary and unsafe out there.

In a industry or business that has been heavily regulated and protected due to covid, not schools though, pack them in tight as usual, they will be grand out

screamer · 04-10-2020 06:27PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Not once have i said close schools, but please continue your tirade. A blended hybrid approach is the way to keep schools safe and open in the current climate.

But screw everyone who might have someone very high risk at home but has to either work or study in a completely unsafe environment so that mommy and daddy can get a break from the kids.

Very disingenuous I’m sorry but a huge amount of mommies and daddies have to work to keep the coffers of the country filled, and it’s an unfortunate consequence of modern life in Ireland that those same mommies and daddies both have to work to pay their way and their kids are sent out to crèche/ schools etc. If you’ve someone very high risk, you can opt out of school attendance for your kids and home school, there is an option.

Gruffalux · 04-10-2020 06:28PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Some mommies and daddy’s are even using that time to go to work if they still have a job to go to. The selfishness of people is unbelievable. We should all be home, it’s too scary and unsafe out there.

Paddygreen, you joined in January 2020 - did you see what was coming? :eek: Did you know in advance you would be called to action on the social media frontline against coronavirus?

JP Liz V1 · 04-10-2020 06:28PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

The reports about moving to level 4 have some truth to them.

So skipping 3 straight to 4 for all ROI?

Zebra3 · 04-10-2020 06:28PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Why would we go to level 4? Dublin growth seems to be slowing now which is around the time you'd expect to see an impact after the restrictions 2 weeks ago.

Move more counties to level 3 but these level 4 merchants are just people who love mysery.

Let NPHET and the gov do their jobs - no matter what you think they know more than you about the progress of this virus.

There is more to life than covid though.

Wonder when people will realise that.

Especially those in charge. Sorry, meant to be in charge.

Russman · 04-10-2020 06:29PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

It will not be until Tuesday. I wonder whether there will be 3 levels allowed nationally. That would allow Donegal to move to Level 4. I don't think Dublin is going to level 4 but it will stay at level 3 for a few more weeks at least.

I think Ireland is realistically just too small for localised restrictions. Nowhere is really out of reach from anywhere else. If they went for various levels across counties there’d be too much confusion imo. Two levels is about as much as can be managed.

Icyseanfitz · 04-10-2020 06:30PM

screamer wrote: »

Very disingenuous I’m sorry but a huge amount of mommies and daddies have to work to keep the coffers of the country filled, and it’s an unfortunate consequence of modern life in Ireland that those same mommies and daddies both have to work to pay their way and their kids are sent out to crèche/ schools etc. If you’ve someone very high risk, you can opt out of school attendance for your kids and home school, there is an option.

Much in the same way as those mommy and daddies have to go to work so do staff in education

Russman · 04-10-2020 06:31PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

There is more to life than covid though.

Wonder when people will realise that.

Especially those in charge. Sorry, meant to be in charge.

What aspect of life / existence hasn’t been impacted by COVID ?

iamwhoiam · 04-10-2020 06:32PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Much in the same way as those mommy and daddies have to go to work so do staff in education

Yes they do . So do teachers bring their own kids to school so they “ get a break from them “ or does your contempt not apply to teachers ?

podgeandrodge · 04-10-2020 06:32PM

My holiday in Cork/Kerry cancelled. Thinking few days I've booked in Dublin hotel will be next. Can't seem to catch a break. (pun intended)

JP Liz V1 · 04-10-2020 06:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

NI incidence rates per 100,000 are truly off the scale. If the six counties in the north were in republic counties would be in level 4 and 5. Derry strabane is 1000 per 100,000. Poor Donegal had no chance bordering that area.

A wall around Donegal needs to be build

jams100 · 04-10-2020 06:33PM

Its all so over the place, what is the point in moving donegal to level 4 or 5 if Northern Ireland is having so many cases? It'll just spread again in no time.
Whatever the approach it needs to be all island with both cmo's working together.
Whatever level dublin is moved to it won't effect me, barely see anyone nowadays anyway and we're at level 3, it's the house parties that are the problem and they won't be fixed by moving a county from level 3 to level 4.
It only takes one party to start a massive chain of cases, makes the people like myself feel like an idiot for following guidelines

is_that_so · 04-10-2020 06:33PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So skipping 3 straight to 4 for all ROI?

That's doubtful as it gives them fewer options other than a straight 5 and it screws up a lot of what's managed to open completely. 3+ may be the call nationwide , but subject to the usual next 5/7/10/14 days are critical. Anyway Tony is back at the NPHET meeting today.

CruelSummer · 04-10-2020 06:34PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Not once have i said close schools, but please continue your tirade. A blended hybrid approach is the way to keep schools safe and open in the current climate.

But screw everyone who might have someone very high risk at home but has to either work or study in a completely unsafe environment so that mommy and daddy can get a break from the kids.

No you’re suggesting screw everyone for those who are at high risk. Are you aware some people in the situation you just mentioned are being home schooled and have made arrangements with the school? Under no circumstances should that mean the whole education is held to ransom. The posts referring to parents wanting a break is pretty shameful and a common theme on this thread. Would make you wonder what type of profile many of the posters on this thread have...
These parents have been trying to work & educate their children throughout the lockdown at the same time. Many found this highly stressful and felt they were failing at both. Children need school, education, and socialising. Blended learning is useless - they’re in for 1/2 days getting started and then off again while parents who no longer have mortgage breaks from banks now have to work uninterrupted. It should only be used as a last resort.

JP Liz V1 · 04-10-2020 06:34PM

Paddygreen wrote: »

The cans of Galahad strewn on the floor are as empty as their cold dark hearts.

Seamus Heaney or William Shakespeare

Icyseanfitz · 04-10-2020 06:35PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Yes they do . So do teachers bring their own kids to school so they “ get a break from them “ or does your contempt not apply to teachers ?

I don't have contempt for any group of people, fact of the matter is there are people that use education as nothing but a babysitting tool and that just isn't good enough currently. At post primary there is no reason a hybrid approach couldn't have been taken to keep schools open safely with reduced numbers.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 04-10-2020 06:36PM

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Is there a particular reason why a county can't be (say) level 2 and another level 4?

The plan says only 2 levels in play across the country.

I presume this is to limit complexity.

Russman · 04-10-2020 06:36PM

It’s almost like all the levels and restrictions and opinions aren't worth a f-ck and it’s down to peoples’ individual behaviour to stop the spread........

Happydays2020 · 04-10-2020 06:37PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

So skipping 3 straight to 4 for all ROI?

I don't think the govt will agree to the whole State as level 4. Dublin moving there will be an economic disaster. But NPHET will be keen.

I wonder whether the plan will be adjusted to allow three levels in place across the country. This would allow Donegal to move to L.4, Dublin to stay at Level 3 for now (perhaps with a few companions) and others with lower numbers to stay at Level 2.

Icyseanfitz · 04-10-2020 06:38PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

No you’re suggesting screw everyone for those who are at high risk. Are you aware some people in the situation you just mentioned are being home schooled and have made arrangements with the school? Under no circumstances should that mean the whole education is held to ransom. The posts referring to parents wanting a break is pretty shameful and a common theme on this thread. Would make you wonder what type of profile many of the posters on this thread have...
These parents have been trying to work & educate their children throughout the lockdown at the same time. Many found this highly stressful and felt they were failing at both. Children need school, education, and socialising. Blended learning is useless - they’re in for 1/2 days getting started and then off again while parents who no longer have mortgage breaks from banks now have to work uninterrupted. It should only be used as a last resort.

Lets hope you are right and covid can't hit schools (even though 1200+ school students caught covid during September) because if we go on business as usual (which is what's happening in schools right now) with 1/5th of our population unregulated, we will be in for a horrible disaster.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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