Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Danzy · 04-10-2020 05:02PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

One of the main reasons why fear seems to be so widespread in Ireland in comparison to more populated countries is our size.Almost everybody will know of someone who has or had it.Will also have heard of Johnny or Mary's first cousin who has recovered but left with long term serious side effects.

Know 3 people locally who have had it and 2 who possibly had it, the latter 2 were in hospital in December with a very bad flu, both fit and strong, one still has occasional trouble breathing.

iamwhoiam · 04-10-2020 05:02PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

One of the main reasons why fear seems to be so widespread in Ireland in comparison to more populated countries is our size.Almost everybody will know of someone who has or had it.Will also have heard of Johnny or Mary's first cousin who has recovered but left with long term serious side effects.

I think the biggest fear here is our crappy health system will collapse . The HSE was woeful before Covid and even though they had 6 months to be prepared its still crappy
Its not fit for purpose and it’s definitely one of the biggest causes of fear and stress among my friends

Tenzor07 · 04-10-2020 05:04PM

Curious_Case wrote: »

Official advice -- There are crocs in the water, don't jump in

Precious flakes -- How dare you deprive me of my lovely regular swim

Official advice: There's crocs in the water, but over 100km away, we can put up barriers and track their movements accurately in order to protect you while you enjoy a swim.

Precious curious_case: Oh no please close down the entire Ocean and I will stay under my bed until it's gone.

Russman · 04-10-2020 05:06PM

manniot2 wrote: »

If we protect the elderly, can you prove the above is going to happen?

And at any point are you willing to consider the cost of all this? And I don’t mean to economy.

And will you be happy to do it next winter also? Cos this vaccine is no silver bullet as even the medic say.

Is that a gamble a responsible government should take ?

Curious_Case · 04-10-2020 05:08PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Official advice: There's crocs in the water, but over 100km away, we can put up barriers and track their movements accurately in order to protect you while you enjoy a swim.

Precious curious_case: Oh no please close down the entire Ocean and I will stay under my bed until it's gone.

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I see what you did there !

hynesie08 · 04-10-2020 05:08PM

froog wrote: »

i'm curious what the "no restrictions" people's plan would be here with our health service facing complete collapse in a matter of months, if not weeks. are you genuinely okay with that as long as you can go about your old life?

Well instead of kicking down on the people trying to pay their bills, I'll probably be annoyed at our governments failure to plan for a covid winter.....

Russman · 04-10-2020 05:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well perhaps we should be wondering why absolutely nothing has been done to increase hospital/ICU capacity since this started?

A vaccine could be far away. Our economy could collapse in a matter of months if we keep locking down and yo yoing between restrictions. If the economy collapses, the health system suffers.

All current evidence shows is that lockdown doesn’t work anyways. Kildare has been locked twice now and had nearly 50 cases yesterday.

We need to start at least considering other approaches.

And what good will that do if ICUs are full in the future ?
I totally agree btw that the health service has been chronically underfunded etc for decades, but that’s no good to someone in 6 weeks time who needs a bed and can’t get it because they’re full of COVID patients, or conversely someone with covid who can’t get a bed and who might die otherwise.

bb1234567 · 04-10-2020 05:11PM

Israeli healthcare looks like it will actually collpase similar to Italy and Spain back in March, now 900 in ICU having surpassed national capacity of 800

https://www.timesofisrael.com/flailing-in-the-face-of-covid-19-israel-is-now-on-the-brink-of-catastrophe/

Jackman25 · 04-10-2020 05:11PM

froog wrote: »

i'm curious what the "no restrictions" people's plan would be here with our health service facing complete collapse in a matter of months, if not weeks. are you genuinely okay with that as long as you can go about your old life?

How long do you think people with very little risk should put their social, family, love lives and careers on hold for?

1 year, 2? 10?

JP Liz V1 · 04-10-2020 05:12PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

A few more counties for level 3 would be my guess

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1312777936580341767?s=19

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1312778137046900736?s=19

The numbers must be high and rising

stephenjmcd · 04-10-2020 05:16PM

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1312787652760961024?s=19

Eod100 · 04-10-2020 05:17PM

maebee wrote: »

I heard a doctor on Brendan O'Connor's programme this morning slating face screens, saying they were worse than useless and should be banned. After hearing this, I decided not to use mine anymore and to stick to my regular face mask. This afternoon we had a lovely Sunday lunch in a well renowned restaurant in Limerick city. The staff were all wearing what I can only describe as micro face screens. They sit on the chin, as opposed to the forehead, cover the mouth but don't fully cover the nose. When the waiter leaned in to me to place cutlery, his uncovered nose was inches from mine. I thought I was being paranoid but the three 20 somethings in our family all agreed that these masks are "a joke". Has anybody else seen these?

I've only seen them on twitter but they look like a joke alright. Think people will have to vote with their wallet. If staff aren't wearing masks don't give them the business. They'd learn the lesson fairly quickly. It seems harsh but its for their own benefit too. If cases are traced back to them, staff could be out, restaurant could close etc

ChikiChiki · 04-10-2020 05:18PM

There'll never be a consensus on how to deal with this virus. Posts on this very thread just show that with an abundance of shouty clowns at extreme ends of both arguments armed with nonsense probably pulled from their own holes. It doesn't give me any hope at all.

I would hate to be in Government or Nphet right now. Whatever they do, they will face harsh criticism from all quarters.

GeorgeBailey · 04-10-2020 05:18PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

The numbers must be high and rising

Presumably we're looking at a big increase again today. Depressing times.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 04-10-2020 05:18PM

Will we get the usual announcement at somewhere between 5:30-6:00 or will it be delayed to coincide with nephet meeting.

Perhaps nephet meeting might be about specific policy rather than new lockdown.

Russman · 04-10-2020 05:18PM

Jackman25 wrote: »

How long do you think people with very little risk should put their social, family, love lives and careers on hold for?

1 year, 2? 10?

It’s all comes down to the selfishness and selflessness of individuals.
Where is the line between public health and thinking as a society, and “I’m alright jack” individuals ? For some people their finances are paramount and for others they’re prepared to put up with some pain so they can benefit family members and maybe get this thing passed quicker.

niallo27 · 04-10-2020 05:19PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Israeli healthcare looks like it will actually collpase similar to Italy and Spain back in March, now 900 in ICU having surpassed national capacity of 800

https://www.timesofisrael.com/flailing-in-the-face-of-covid-19-israel-is-now-on-the-brink-of-catastrophe/

We have heard this for about 20 countries in the last few weeks, it never actually happens though.

jammiedodgers · 04-10-2020 05:20PM

Case numbers could be quite high again today if NPHET are meeting this evening

stephenjmcd · 04-10-2020 05:20PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Will we get the usual announcement at somewhere between 5:30-6:00 or will it be delayed to coincide with nephet meeting.

Perhaps nephet meeting might be about specific policy rather than new lockdown.

Why wouldn't the numbers be announced as usual?

There's no press conference or anything like that.

They just get the usual press release

Storm 10 · 04-10-2020 05:20PM

Trump could leave hospital tomorrow says his Doctor

SEPT 23 1989 · 04-10-2020 05:20PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Israeli healthcare looks like it will actually collpase similar to Italy and Spain back in March, now 900 in ICU having surpassed national capacity of 800

https://www.timesofisrael.com/flailing-in-the-face-of-covid-19-israel-is-now-on-the-brink-of-catastrophe/

With the financial and technological muscle they have and that happens to them

The rest of the world should worry

stephenjmcd · 04-10-2020 05:21PM

Dr Holohan chairing this evenings meeting

Sierra Oscar · 04-10-2020 05:21PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Israeli healthcare looks like it will actually collpase similar to Italy and Spain back in March, now 900 in ICU having surpassed national capacity of 800

https://www.timesofisrael.com/flailing-in-the-face-of-covid-19-israel-is-now-on-the-brink-of-catastrophe/

Israel is in a shocking place at the moment. In the midst of it all the Government is facing down violent protests from anti-restriction movements and from people who feel the Government aren't going far enough.

bb1234567 · 04-10-2020 05:21PM

niallo27 wrote: »

We have heard this for about 20 countries in the last few weeks, it never actually happens though.

We have not..ISrael has already surpassed it's ICU capacity. It's not a case of if or may happen, they're in the worst case scenario

Russman · 04-10-2020 05:22PM

niallo27 wrote: »

We have heard this for about 20 countries in the last few weeks, it never actually happens though.

Usually through extraordinary efforts and sacrifice by front line staff.

Unlike internet posters though, governments can’t take the gamble that it might.
The same idiots would be complaining then anyway if it did.

forumdedum · 04-10-2020 05:23PM

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Case numbers could be quite high again today if NPHET are meeting this evening

I would guess that just as the North had a huge jump to 934 the same is happening now in South.

odyssey06 · 04-10-2020 05:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well perhaps we should be wondering why absolutely nothing has been done to increase hospital/ICU capacity since this started?

ICU capacity has been increased. You can criticise that the increase should be more, but to say absolutuely nothing has been done is simply untrue

Pre-Covid capacity: 225
Temporary surge capacity: 354
Current permanent capacity: 280
Capacity after Winter Plan funding: 297

https://www.thejournal.ie/icu-bed-nu...17685-Sep2020/

niallo27 · 04-10-2020 05:23PM

Russman wrote: »

It’s all comes down to the selfishness and selflessness of individuals.
Where is the line between public health and thinking as a society, and “I’m alright jack” individuals ? For some people their finances are paramount and for others they’re prepared to put up with some pain so they can benefit family members and maybe get this thing passed quicker.

We all locked down for a few months and it didn't make thing pass quicker as you say. What are you basing your putting up with some pain to make this thing pass quicker on.

Roots 2020 · 04-10-2020 05:24PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dr Holohan chairing this evenings meeting

Once Dr. Holohan is here he'll consume Covid with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.

Joke

Gael23 · 04-10-2020 05:26PM

Storm 10 wrote: »

Trump could leave hospital tomorrow says his Doctor

In a box heading to Arlington cemetery?

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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