Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

bucketybuck · 01-10-2020 11:32AM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

But this is what you are blind to, you are going to shops, you were on the train, you were in pubs, the people at the house party you are at this week could have elderly relatives and you pass them the virus from the house party you were at last week.

You need a serious dose of cop on and a big wake up call.

And you are going into work when there is no justification for it whatsoever, who are you to lecture anybody?

Its a disgrace, makes a mockery of the efforts of others.

facehugger99 · 01-10-2020 11:36AM

paw patrol wrote: »

Just to clarify - I am also in his position.

Working in my spare room , no travel hassle and with less days off ,I've more money..hot food on tap in my kitchen. I get extra sleep now too cos of no commute.
Gonna try milk that post covid too if I can

But i'm not blind nor heartless, I have friends and relatives who are being hurt badly by this financially. Even sectors like the trades seem open but so many rules/regulations in some place that it's hard to work as before.

On a personal level my 9 year old was saying yesterday how it's getting to him now. He's had limited GAA training and no boxing class since march as well as other things put on him like the obsessive rules in school.
Which btw is a joke cos these same kids all meet up after school and are in each others houses.

Only an absolute c8nt would want this to continue any longer.

I am the same - personally I'm better off financially and have no commute with working from home.

Unlike some though, I'm not a self-centered moron who can't see past his own personal circumstances as to the long-term effects these ridiculous 'restrictions' are doing to the country.

Quantum Erasure · 01-10-2020 11:40AM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Yes to the letter actually. The only thing you can pick on his occasionally going to work and at level 2 it’s attend work for “essential reasons” not “essential workers only”. What I’m doing is essential.

Also as I said before my work does officially fall under the essential work according to the governments own documentation but we are not acting on it yet anyway and remained fully closed until very recently.

Also as I said I’m interacting with no one so there is no risk. I usually do food shopping on the way home etc so even the trip would be made regardless so nonsense about RTAs etc is just that, nonsense.

Quote for visibility......

eleventh · 01-10-2020 11:41AM

The restrictions haven't impacted me much either as was WFH before March and since.
It's more the effects on society that concerns me. People afraid to leave the house etc.
Most of all, kids growing up with these rules and restrictions.
As bad as they are for adults, at least we had a natural childhood.
Kids growing up now will be scarred for life - unless they're lucky to have parents who care enough about them to see through the nonsense and encourage their kids to socialise normally as much as possible.

The more people relax restrictions in their own household, the better. It's only when majority are slaves to so-called health 'advice' that we're in trouble.

Gael23 · 01-10-2020 11:57AM

Holohan back next week. Not good news for Dublin

topper75 · 01-10-2020 11:59AM

rusty cole wrote: »

ask mcconkey and he'll say that same footballer will have cardiac scarring, lung nodules and brain issues in a few years!!:rolleyes:

I suppose we shouldn't put words in his mouth.

But if he or any other hysterical person claims such a thing - ask for the evidence.

If they are going on the Penn State thing - give them this:

https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Report-Third-of-COVID-positive-Big-10-athletes-15541344.php

01-10-2020 12:03PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Holohan back next week. Not good news for Dublin

Doesn't really matter who the CMO is. We have already stated that our plan is to lockdown and have various levels of restrictions for 9 more months.

We are going to stick with a failed strategy and pray for a vaccine.

funnydoggy · 01-10-2020 12:15PM

Regardless of his performance as CMO, I hope he is ready and doesn't feel rushed or anything. Terribly sad for the whole family.

snowcat · 01-10-2020 12:28PM

3xh wrote: »

Indeed. Here’s an indo article on NPHET’s tracking. https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/its-rising-everywhere-this-is-a-message-for-all-age-groups-health-chiefs-warn-as-429-new-cases-and-one-further-death-confirmed-39576765.html

In it, it refers to a couple going away. Between one thing and another, they end up in a restaurant. 6 people at the table beside them (unrelated) are contact traced for testing after that couple test positive. All 6 at that other party‘s table test positive.

The article makes it out that those 6 are innocent victims of those careless people going away for the weekend. How does NPHET know it was those two that passed it on? Could it have not come from someone at the table of 6? Maybe a close contact of one of those 6?

And as we know more definitively now, those PCR tests could be picking up old virus remnants as much as infectious examples.

Absolute piss poor journalism. Cut and paste reporting from the NPHET public relations office.

We are absolutely being lied to.

Here’s the specific bit...... ‘In one, 30 cases arose after a couple went away for weekend break. They went to a house party where six out of eight people became infected.

The outbreak included an incident where six people sitting at a table in a restaurant adjacent to one of those infected all later tested positive for Covid-19.’

Im just envious of their social life. Legends

mcburns07 · 01-10-2020 12:35PM

eleventh wrote: »

The restrictions haven't impacted me much either as was WFH before March and since.
It's more the effects on society that concerns me. People afraid to leave the house etc.
Most of all, kids growing up with these rules and restrictions.
As bad as they are for adults, at least we had a natural childhood.
Kids growing up now will be scarred for life - unless they're lucky to have parents who care enough about them to see through the nonsense and encourage their kids to socialise normally as much as possible.

The more people relax restrictions in their own household, the better. It's only when majority are slaves to so-called health 'advice' that we're in trouble.

This really, my personal circumstances have improved too. Reduced costs with mostly WFH since March. No more 45 min commute each way.

There's no joy to be had with so many other parts of life are restricted and hearing about job losses and closures etc. I worry about how this will impact kids if it goes on much longer.

I do worry about the future of democracy too, when you have people calling for the army to stop students drinking and blindly following the rules devised by an unelected committee, you wonder where we are headed in the next few decades.

facehugger99 · 01-10-2020 12:38PM

eleventh wrote: »

The restrictions haven't impacted me much either as was WFH before March and since.
It's more the effects on society that concerns me. People afraid to leave the house etc.
Most of all, kids growing up with these rules and restrictions.
As bad as they are for adults, at least we had a natural childhood.
Kids growing up now will be scarred for life - unless they're lucky to have parents who care enough about them to see through the nonsense and encourage their kids to socialise normally as much as possible.

The more people relax restrictions in their own household, the better. It's only when majority are slaves to so-called health 'advice' that we're in trouble.

I remember back at the start of this, some poster was on the main thread saying that their young child had asked them what was going to happen with the virus and the parent started crying and saying she didn't know.

That's the kind of ****e the kids with hysterical parents are having to deal with - it must be very damaging long-term.

There some hypochondriac parents on the 'school' thread that are dragging their poor kids off for an unpleasant corvid test whenever they get a snuffly nose.

Stormyteacup · 01-10-2020 12:44PM

3xh wrote: »

Indeed. Here’s an indo article on NPHET’s tracking. https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/its-rising-everywhere-this-is-a-message-for-all-age-groups-health-chiefs-warn-as-429-new-cases-and-one-further-death-confirmed-39576765.html

In it, it refers to a couple going away. Between one thing and another, they end up in a restaurant. 6 people at the table beside them (unrelated) are contact traced for testing after that couple test positive. All 6 at that other party‘s table test positive.

The article makes it out that those 6 are innocent victims of those careless people going away for the weekend. How does NPHET know it was those two that passed it on? Could it have not come from someone at the table of 6? Maybe a close contact of one of those 6?

And as we know more definitively now, those PCR tests could be picking up old virus remnants as much as infectious examples.

Absolute piss poor journalism. Cut and paste reporting from the NPHET public relations office.

We are absolutely being lied to.

Here’s the specific bit...... ‘In one, 30 cases arose after a couple went away for weekend break. They went to a house party where six out of eight people became infected.

The outbreak included an incident where six people sitting at a table in a restaurant adjacent to one of those infected all later tested positive for Covid-19.’

Yes it reads like a children’s story.

Strange how the headline highlights the weekend break - was that just the couple on their own? Where did one or both of them contract the virus?

Then they went to a dinner with 6 other people, and a total of 6 out of 8 were infected, but the couple didn’t contact it there - they definitely got it on their weekend break?

At the restaurant that one person was already positive with Covid definitely, and didn’t contract from other table?

Did they so the same backstory for the table of 6 at the restaurant, how do we know they weren’t also on a weekend break then in a house party?

So many holes and so little logic maybe I need to read it again more slowly, I’m sure there’s a better explanation of it.

01-10-2020 12:51PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

There some hypochondriac parents on the 'school' thread that are dragging their poor kids off for an unpleasant corvid test whenever they get a snuffly nose.

As they are required to do.

It’s a disgrace that you are even allowed to suggest parents send their kids to school with symptoms that could be covid, it's really beyond low suggesting these things.

It’s horrific example to be giving children too that suggestion by you and others that family’s should ignore the guidelines and restrictions.

kippy · 01-10-2020 01:00PM

eleventh wrote: »

The restrictions haven't impacted me much either as was WFH before March and since.
It's more the effects on society that concerns me. People afraid to leave the house etc.
Most of all, kids growing up with these rules and restrictions.
As bad as they are for adults, at least we had a natural childhood.
Kids growing up now will be scarred for life - unless they're lucky to have parents who care enough about them to see through the nonsense and encourage their kids to socialise normally as much as possible.

The more people relax restrictions in their own household, the better. It's only when majority are slaves to so-called health 'advice' that we're in trouble.

Some context is required here. Kids are extremely ressilliant. There are currently far worse places in the world to grow up and have been far worse periods of history to grow up in in Ireland.

01-10-2020 01:31PM

kippy wrote: »

Some context is required here. Kids are extremely ressilliant. There are currently far worse places in the world to grow up and have been far worse periods of history to grow up in in Ireland.

It's laughable really when you look at some of these posts.

Kids can't meet their friends or play sport as much for few months maybe a year or so and its as bad as the spartans leaving kids in the forrest so only the strongest survive.

With all the tech at our finger tips there there is plenty for kids to do while isolating.

hynesie08 · 01-10-2020 01:38PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

It's laughable really when you look at some of these posts.

Kids can't meet their friends or play sport as much for few months maybe a year or so and its as bad as the spartans leaving kids in the forrest so only the strongest survive.

With all the tech at our finger tips there there is plenty for kids to do while isolating.

Yeah what's a year to a 6 year old, only 33% of the life they can remember, let's spend that first development period sticking them in front of Minecraft.........

Don't have kids nox.

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 01:38PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

It's laughable really when you look at some of these posts.

Kids can't meet their friends or play sport as much for few months maybe a year or so and its as bad as the spartans leaving kids in the forrest so only the strongest survive.

With all the tech at our finger tips there there is plenty for kids to do while isolating.

Noxx, I cant imagine this thread without you.

Every 3rd post from you is just timeless classic.

In all seriousness, have you ever studied online? I have. Its crap. Its shi*e. Its not interactive. Children need to learn and socialize .... not stay at home isolating with their ipad.

Plumbthedepths · 01-10-2020 01:40PM

kippy wrote: »

Some context is required here. Kids are extremely ressilliant. There are currently far worse places in the world to grow up and have been far worse periods of history to grow up in in Ireland.

The above nonsense is not something children here have any experience of .
I'm sure the above though will meet approval from a certain quarter.

eleventh · 01-10-2020 01:40PM

kippy wrote:

Some context is required here. Kids are extremely ressilliant. There are currently far worse places in the world to grow up and have been far worse periods of history to grow up in in Ireland.

What happened to some children in the past is no reason to destroy childhoods in the present.

All people are resilient to a point. There is a point though where trauma or damage occurs.
People - and children in particular - being denied social contact, or punished for wanting to socialise or hug a friend or relative would be in that category.

Childhood is by far the most social time in life (for reasons that should be obvious).

What we have now and facing into is an unnatural childhood for the majority. That's the plan anyway.

dundalkfc10 · 01-10-2020 01:40PM

https://twitter.com/DomesticIreland/status/1311630077369569281?s=19

The GAA in Cork do what they like

Micky 32 · 01-10-2020 01:41PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Police by consent its the way its always been and that won't change.

If you were a guard you sound like one that would be on a power trip,

He wouldn’t last as a cop. He’d be spending most of his time in court bringing the people who’ll box the head off him. with an attitude towards people like that.

paw patrol · 01-10-2020 01:42PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

As they are required to do.

It’s a disgrace that you are even allowed to suggest parents send their kids to school with symptoms that could be covid, it's really beyond low suggesting these things.

you post some about of horsesh1t here you really do
But now you are lying, making stuff up off the top of your head. pathetic.

the poster mentioned a "snuffly nose."

the advise was to send them to school - by the acting CMO himself - advice you claim to follow to the letter.

THE country’s top doc has said kids can go to school with “a runny nose or a sneeze”

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5844713/coronavirus-ireland-glynn-kids-school-runny-nose-sneeze-cases/

paw patrol · 01-10-2020 01:46PM

eleventh wrote: »

What happened to some children in the past is no reason to destroy childhoods in the present.

All people are resilient to a point. There is a point though where trauma or damage occurs.
.

fully agree - kids are resilient but spending their formative years being afraid of others and believing they harbour this granny killing malevolence within their being will damage their mental well being and development more than rations and nazi bogey man. At least they were "out there" and physical manifestations.

I'd argue there is something very insidious about it .

facehugger99 · 01-10-2020 01:48PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

It's laughable really when you look at some of these posts.

Kids can't meet their friends or play sport as much for few months maybe a year or so and its as bad as the spartans leaving kids in the forrest so only the strongest survive.

With all the tech at our finger tips there there is plenty for kids to do while isolating.

I have no doubt all the parents reading your posts are breathlessly waiting for your next child-rearing tips.

FintanMcluskey · 01-10-2020 01:52PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

I remember back at the start of this, some poster was on the main thread saying that their young child had asked them what was going to happen with the virus and the parent started crying and saying she didn't know.

That's the kind of ****e the kids with hysterical parents are having to deal with - it must be very damaging long-term.

There some hypochondriac parents on the 'school' thread that are dragging their poor kids off for an unpleasant corvid test whenever they get a snuffly nose.

Ive heard of some homeschooling a child, entirely on the basis of the dangers of Covid.

The child most certainly wont have a career in actuary thats for sure

paw patrol · 01-10-2020 01:54PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

I have no doubt all the parents reading your posts are breathlessly waiting for your next child-rearing tips.

the kids themselves would tell him to fcuk off too

hynesie08 · 01-10-2020 01:55PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

I have no doubt all the parents reading your posts are breathlessly waiting for your next child-rearing tips.

Ooh, I know this....... You and your partner take turns getting **** faced until the kid is old enough to pour itself a bowl of cereal and turn on the TV.

Live beside granny so she can rear your kids when the Disney channel isn't......

Strumms · 01-10-2020 02:07PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DomesticIreland/status/1311630077369569281?s=19

The GAA in Cork do what they like

It’s not just Cork... the GAA countrywide have and have always had a hall pass to do what they like. Regs and rules don’t apply. From politicians, from local Gardai there will be zero interest in dealing. . This is just another example. See it in my area of Dublin too.

01-10-2020 02:16PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Yeah what's a year to a 6 year old, only 33% of the life they can remember, let's spend that first development period sticking them in front of Minecraft.........

Don't have kids nox.

A year is nothing to a 6 year old, do you remember being 6, I certainly dont and in 30 years time 6 year olds will have zero memory of this and it will have made no difference spending time with less than the usual interaction.

How do you know I don't have kids?

paw patrol wrote: »

you post some about of horsesh1t here you really do
But now you are lying, making stuff up off the top of your head. pathetic.

the poster mentioned a "snuffly nose."

the advise was to send them to school - by the acting CMO himself - advice you claim to follow to the letter.

I'm afraid you are taking the posters nonsense posts too literally. He has been describing any symptoms posted about in these threads as "a snuffy nose" so I am not taking his statement to actually mean an actual snuffy nouse but rather all the actual symptoms that he has been rubbishing for weeks.

polesheep · 01-10-2020 02:18PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

A year is nothing to a 6 year old, do you remember being 6, I certainly dont and in 30 years time 6 year olds will have zero memory of this and it will have made no difference spening time with less than the usual interaction.

How do you know I don't have kids?

I'm afraid you are taking the posters nonsense posts too literally. He has been describing any symptoms posted about in these threads as "a snuffy nose" so I am not taking his statement to actually mean an actual snuffy nouse but rather all the actual symptoms that he has been rubbishing for weeks.

Honestly, that is breathtaking ignorance.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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