2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

HDMI · 30-09-2020 08:17AM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

It's not that Antifa do not exist, it's that they are an ideological movement rather than a unified and defined, singular organised group.

Maybe being on the receiving end of their behaviour might make one feel that that they are less ideological and just as thuggish and violent as their right wing buddies.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 30-09-2020 08:17AM

What happens when you buy love...

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1311187188164579333?s=09

walshb · 30-09-2020 08:18AM

DraftDodger wrote: »

My God what a stinking turd of a "debate" that was. If this is the best the American political system can up with then they are absolutely fcuked going forward. An utter embarrassment

Truly despicable spectacle...

The U.S. really is a basket case!

RIGOLO · 30-09-2020 08:24AM

Great debate.
TRump summed it up in this one liner - "Ive done more in 47 months than you done in 47 years "
Trump wins the debate he trounced Chris Wallace ohh and he beat the other guy too.
Voters have one major issue , it’s the economy , and Trump trounced him on the economy segment.
Poor old Joe was using the podium to keep himself upright as Trump hammered him on China stealing his lunch.

Great points for Trump to get Hunters corruption out into the open. Media have ignored the story, but now the voters know .
Very biased questioning and it was plain to see Wallace helping Joe by leading him in the question.
Race issue and violence segment and the question is posed in reference to an event in Charlottsville from 3 years ago, instead of phrasing the question in terms of whats going on right here right now, 100+ days of constant violent protests in Portland and Wallace asks about Charlottsville.
Joe lost the race-relations segment hands down.
Trump was able to list huge endorsments from law and order side .
Trump destroyed him on law and order , Joe tried to divert to Covid as the left don’t have any stance on law and order.

Wonder how much Wallace was paid off. Everytime Joe was struggling Wallace had to come in and move along before Joe lost it completely.
As Trump asked Joe to name one law and order group that has come out to endorse him, joe started mumbling and then Wallace came to his defence but moving the debate along.

The order of the questioning ended up suiting Trump.
Leading with Covid segment but ending on economy and race relations .
Any patriotic American only heard one candidate standing up for Americas core values and will vote Trump.
I guess Chris Wallace has had his critical race theory .
Joe thinks Antifa is an idea and not an ideology , must be ideological bricks flying thru the shop windows and ideological fires burning buisnesses down.
Wallace saves Joe from disaster by only allowing points to be made on right wing groups but dis-allowed any in depth statements to be made on antifa/radical left, cos he knew Biden was going to bury himself if he had to defend the protests.

Obama left 128 judicial openings for Trump to fill… wow that’s an interesting factoid. Nice of Trump to thank Biden and Obama to leave him that gift.

What a segment.
The more Biden tried to defend his cocaine taking dishonourably discharged un qualified son Hunter, who ended up getting millions for sitting on a corrupt Ukrainian energy company whilst Joe Biden was VP the more voters woke up. The main stream media have tried to bury and ignore this story but not more voters will ask about this and have second thoughts.

Trump won the climate change segment. He destroyed the left , using California as an example. No forest management , you get widespread fires. Like all things Trump solution is roll up the sleeves and do some work, the left solution is bring out the bongo drums and hope the pixie fairies take care of it all.

Joe lost crucial swing state votes, doesn’t he realise coal country is swing state country and he states there will be NO investment in coal. Bye bye to those votes.

The US president has to deal with the leaders of the free and not so free world, the tough men of the world. After this debate few Americans would consider that Biden is a better President to fight Americas corner in any global discussions.

Joe lost a lot of ‘The Squads’ radical left, Joe says he doest support ‘The Green New Deal’ .. has his master AOC being informed.

TRump 1 - Chris Wallace & Joe Biden 0

Harry Palmr · 30-09-2020 08:25AM

Let's get to the most important thing, did Biden take a toilet break?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 30-09-2020 08:27AM

Jaysus. We all know what Trump is like but I didn’t know what Biden was like until last night. Is that the best candidate they could come up with, simply awful.

Dillonb3 · 30-09-2020 08:27AM

Just saw clips of the debate and I dont have much hope in Steve Scully in moderating it more effectively in the next one

Cody montana · 30-09-2020 08:29AM

Dana Perino's debate verdict: 'Biden cleared the very low bar that had been set for him'
Senior political analyst Brit Hume compares Trump to 'bucking bronco' on debate stage

From fix news website.
They are the ones who set the bar low.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 30-09-2020 08:31AM

RIGOLO wrote: »

Great debate.
TRump summed it up in this one liner - "Ive done more in 47 months than you done in 47 years "
Trump wins the debate he trounced Chris Wallace ohh and he beat the other guy too.
Voters have one major issue , it’s the economy , and Trump trounced him on the economy segment.
Poor old Joe was using the podium to keep himself upright as Trump hammered him on China stealing his lunch.

Great points for Trump to get Hunters corruption out into the open. Media have ignored the story, but now the voters know .
Very biased questioning and it was plain to see Wallace helping Joe by leading him in the question.
Race issue and violence segment and the question is posed in reference to an event in Charlottsville from 3 years ago, instead of phrasing the question in terms of whats going on right here right now, 100+ days of constant violent protests in Portland and Wallace asks about Charlottsville.
Joe lost the race-relations segment hands down.
Trump was able to list huge endorsments from law and order side .
Trump destroyed him on law and order , Joe tried to divert to Covid as the left don’t have any stance on law and order.

Wonder how much Wallace was paid off. Everytime Joe was struggling Wallace had to come in and move along before Joe lost it completely.
As Trump asked Joe to name one law and order group that has come out to endorse him, joe started mumbling and then Wallace came to his defence but moving the debate along.

The order of the questioning ended up suiting Trump.
Leading with Covid segment but ending on economy and race relations .
Any patriotic American only heard one candidate standing up for Americas core values and will vote Trump.
I guess Chris Wallace has had his critical race theory .
Joe thinks Antifa is an idea and not an ideology , must be ideological bricks flying thru the shop windows and ideological fires burning buisnesses down.
Wallace saves Joe from disaster by only allowing points to be made on right wing groups but dis-allowed any in depth statements to be made on antifa/radical left, cos he knew Biden was going to bury himself if he had to defend the protests.

Obama left 128 judicial openings for Trump to fill… wow that’s an interesting factoid. Nice of Trump to thank Biden and Obama to leave him that gift.

What a segment.
The more Biden tried to defend his cocaine taking dishonourably discharged un qualified son Hunter, who ended up getting millions for sitting on a corrupt Ukrainian energy company whilst Joe Biden was VP the more voters woke up. The main stream media have tried to bury and ignore this story but not more voters will ask about this and have second thoughts.

Trump won the climate change segment. He destroyed the left , using California as an example. No forest management , you get widespread fires. Like all things Trump solution is roll up the sleeves and do some work, the left solution is bring out the bongo drums and hope the pixie fairies take care of it all.

Joe lost crucial swing state votes, doesn’t he realise coal country is swing state country and he states there will be NO investment in coal. Bye bye to those votes.

The US president has to deal with the leaders of the free and not so free world, the tough men of the world. After this debate few Americans would consider that Biden is a better President to fight Americas corner in any global discussions.

Joe lost a lot of ‘The Squads’ radical left, Joe says he doest support ‘The Green New Deal’ .. has his master AOC being informed.

TRump 1 - Chris Wallace & Joe Biden 0

Here you go...

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1311133187251359744?s=19

RIGOLO · 30-09-2020 08:33AM

Cody montana wrote: »

Dana Perino's debate verdict: 'Biden cleared the very low bar that had been set for him'
Senior political analyst Brit Hume compares Trump to 'bucking bronco' on debate stage

From fix news website.
They are the ones who set the bar low.

Is this the FOX NEWS your talking about ...
the one that just broke TV HISTORY record ratings

For the first time ever, a cable network has outperformed the legacy broadcast networks in prime time—the most valuable real estate on television—for an entire broadcast quarter. Fox News Channel ended the third quarter of 2020 as the most-watched network in all of TV with an average total audience of 3.507 million viewers—up 44 percent from the same period one year ago, according to ratings data compiled by Nielsen.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2020/09/29/hannity-has-highest-rated-quarter-in-history-as-fox-news-beats-broadcast-networks-a-tv-first/

must be lonely watching main stream news and fake news, knowing your a dwindling audience and more people are flipping the channel.

Fiery mutant · 30-09-2020 08:34AM

The big loser for me was Chris Wallace. Couldn’t control the debate from the get go, should have cut Trumps mic when he started going off. Biden should have known what Trump was gonna be like, and avoid the frustration.

The thing is this is Trumps only way, he will perform like this in the final 2 debates. Whereas I think Biden will adapt better, and the other two moderators will want to be more assertive in their control.

ohnonotgmail · 30-09-2020 08:34AM

RIGOLO wrote: »

Is this the FOX NEWS your talking about ...
the one that just broke TV HISTORY record ratings

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2020/09/29/hannity-has-highest-rated-quarter-in-history-as-fox-news-beats-broadcast-networks-a-tv-first/

must be lonely watching main stream news and fake news, knowing your a dwindling audience and more people are flipping the channel.

there is no accounting for taste

Quin_Dub · 30-09-2020 08:35AM

HDMI wrote: »

Maybe being on the receiving end of their behaviour might make one feel that that they are less ideological and just as thuggish and violent as their right wing buddies.

Ì think a good analogy is Football Holligans.

Antifa are "Football Hooligans" , the Proud Boys etc. are The Chelsea Headhunters.

Antifa is a generic grouping describing people with a similar mindset but without any kind of specific organised command structure.

Whereas The Proud Boys , The Three Percenters etc. all have structured national leaderships with a clear "chain of command" from Local level through to National.

Are there organised groups within Antifa? Almost certainly , but they are individual localised grouping , none of them roll up to a regional or National command Structure.

RIGOLO · 30-09-2020 08:36AM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Jaysus. We all know what Trump is like but I didn’t know what Biden was like until last night. Is that the best candidate they could come up with, simply awful.

cmon go easy on the left, havent you heard everyone gets a prize in their world.

They only had 4 years , $4 billion dollars, 24x7 main stream media backing, and 3rd level institutional academia in their corner to prepare for this .

The will get it right one of these days or not

extra gravy · 30-09-2020 08:37AM

Just finished watching, thought Biden finished strongly after a tentative start. He coped fairly well with Trump's rudeness and continuous interruptions. No gaffes, toilet breaks or any signs of the dementia that we've all been hearing about from the Trump fangirls. I'd call it a successful night's work.

Beechwoodspark · 30-09-2020 08:38AM

trump acted like an ignorant bollix - no great shock there

His base will lap it up

Doubt he managed to win over many swing voters though

D.Q · 30-09-2020 08:38AM

Irish people that find themselves entrenched on either side of this debate really need to take a long hard look at themselves.

It's pathetic.

gmisk · 30-09-2020 08:38AM

RIGOLO wrote: »

Is this the FOX NEWS your talking about ...
the one that just broke TV HISTORY record ratings

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2020/09/29/hannity-has-highest-rated-quarter-in-history-as-fox-news-beats-broadcast-networks-a-tv-first/

must be lonely watching main stream news and fake news, knowing your a dwindling audience and more people are flipping the channel.

So you are trying to say viewing figures are a true sign
of the quality and trust worthiness of a news source?...come on now.
That is like trump boasting about his viewing figures for the covid press conferences... laughable

pjohnson · 30-09-2020 08:39AM

As expected, jusg looking at the two if you were told one has dementia and to guess which one it was, 90% of people wouldn't have picked Biden.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 30-09-2020 08:41AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

trump acted like an ignorant bollix - no great shock there

His base will lap it up

Doubt he managed to win over many swing voters though

From the polling data over the last while, there isn't many swing voters this time around for Donnie and the boys to try and turn off voting.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 30-09-2020 08:43AM

Did anyone check to see if Donnie was human?

https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1311080071822680064?s=19

I bet there's a usb port under there.. how to beat the lizard people, become an Android.

Beechwoodspark · 30-09-2020 08:45AM

What the hell is that

First thoughts is it is sellotape to hold his wig in place

But it looks metallic so not sure what it is?

pjohnson · 30-09-2020 08:47AM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

What the hell is that

First thoughts is it is sellotape to hold his wig in place

But it looks metallic so not sure what it is?

A clip for the toupee?

extra gravy · 30-09-2020 08:47AM

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Did anyone check to see if Donnie was human?

https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1311080071822680064?s=19

I bet there's a usb port under there.. how to beat the lizard people, become an Android.

If he's a robot, then it's not a great advertisement for AI.

sydthebeat · 30-09-2020 08:50AM

So the trump ass kissers default stance after this is "fox news moderator must have been paid off to be soft on Joe"

LOL they are beyond parody at this stage.

They real do think the racist liar is the messiah, poor deluded fools.

ohnonotgmail · 30-09-2020 08:51AM

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Did anyone check to see if Donnie was human?

https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1311080071822680064?s=19

I bet there's a usb port under there.. how to beat the lizard people, become an Android.

plus more weird arm jerking from trump last night. perhaps the two are connected?

https://twitter.com/dahliaispissed/status/1311196694189543424

Leroy42 · 30-09-2020 08:52AM

According to Trump the last number of months, Biden is suffering degenerative cognitive decline, has to be kept in his basement to kee him out of harms way.

And yet Trump came out, at best, equal with him in the debate!

This is the man you think should lead the US for 4 years? A man that cannot even beat a dementia sufferer in a debate?

Trump should have walked this debate. It should have been a clear knockout. But instead both sides will talk of both sides winning, which is always a good sign that neither side really did.

RIGOLO · 30-09-2020 08:52AM

gmisk wrote: »

So you are trying to say viewing figures are a true sign
of the quality and trust worthiness of a news source?...come on now.
That is like trump boasting about his viewing figures for the covid press conferences... laughable

Guess you and a few other people are still watching CNN.
But the dwindling numbers wont help CNN , NYT and other main stream media pay their part of the $250 million defamation suit they LOST against MAGA hat wearing TRump supporter Nick Sandman .

Yep millions of viewers flowing from fake news to FOX NEWS.
and millions of dollars flowing from FAKE NEWS to TRump supporters..

sweet..

30-09-2020 08:53AM

pjohnson wrote: »

A clip for the toupee?

Was thinking it might be foil that they put on hair while dying if I recall correctly?

Leroy42 · 30-09-2020 08:54AM

So Fox would be considered the MSM media then wouldn't it?

So What is all this nonsense that you and Trump continually go on about the MSM being anti Trump? Clearly the main MSM is Pro-Trump.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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