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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Couldn't call it anything but a draw.
    If I was a swing voter I think I wouldn't bother voting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Dozyart


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Couldn't call it anything but a draw.
    If I was a swing voter I think I wouldn't bother voting.

    Insert "Not sure if serious" meme here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Couldn't call it anything but a draw.
    If I was a swing voter I think I wouldn't bother voting.

    That's as resounding a sign of a Biden win as I could expect to see on these Boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,653 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Biden with clearer messaging and lasted the pace better. Good sequences tor him on race, law and order and the climate. Trump’s answer on the election itself should be disqualifying.

    Overall Trump did better when he was shouting over everyone and avoiding the question but Biden largely held his own and offered no gaffes. When you’re ahead that’s all you have to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    That's as resounding a sign of a Biden win as I could expect to see on these Boards.
    Biden wins because he didn't lose.

    If you are suggesting I'm a Trump supporter then you are deluded.
    I'm pro Democrat but not happy with the party over the last four years. I think Biden is an awful candidate. I despise Nancy Pelosi almost as much as I do Trump.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Fox News Heading
    Trump warns of 'a fraud like you've never seen' with mail-in ballots

    That's the same message they had before the debate. That's a loss for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    Biden is a disaster.

    I pity him. That was atrocious. He had/has nothing.

    Easy Trump victory. Again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    Biden is a disaster.

    I pity him. That was atrocious. He had/has nothing.

    Easy Trump victory. Again.

    Didn't get to watch it no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Round one to Trump. Poor auld Joe was easily distracted and fought hard to stay focused. Interesting about his son and the 3 million dollars from the Russian mayor allegation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    Biden is a disaster.

    I pity him. That was atrocious. He had/has nothing.

    Easy Trump victory. Again.
    OK, so what's your analysis on how Trump won the debate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Dozyart


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    Biden is a disaster.

    I pity him. That was atrocious. He had/has nothing.

    Easy Trump victory. Again.

    Bahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa thanks,i needed that at this hour of the morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Round one to Trump. Poor auld Joe was easily distracted and fought hard to stay focused. Interesting about his son and the 3 million dollars from the Russian mayor allegation.

    Eric Trump
    Eric Trump in 2014: 'We have all the funding we need out of Russia'

    What did you think of Trump not denouncing White Supremacy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    Didn't get to watch it no?

    I listened to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Biden did a lot better than I thought he would, given what we were told to expect, trump was trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    I listened to it.
    Me too. What aspects of the debate do you think Trump won on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Eric Trump


    What did you think of Trump not denouncing White Supremacy?

    He should have denounced them along with antifa and BLM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    He should have denounced them along with antifa and BLM

    And he didn't....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    LOL at the Biden fans asking questions of me!

    It's over and they all know it.

    Catch you in the next cartoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭NaFirinne


    I think Trump should have done way better then he did....Biden was better then expectations.

    Let see how the next 2 debates go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    LOL at the Biden fans asking questions of me!

    It's over and they all know it.

    Catch you in the next cartoon.
    What's your point in posting here then?


    You've said Trump won, but won't back it up with any reasoning once asked. If you're not interested in any kind of discussion, why bother posting at all?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭The Floyd p


    What's your point in posting here then?


    You've said Trump won, but won't back it up with any reasoning once asked. If you're not interested in any kind of discussion, why bother posting at all?

    There isn't a point, just trolling. They learn from their leader! Monkey see monkey do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭rosser44


    Trump repeatedly refusing to condemn white supremacy it the most chilling thing to come out of this debate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    rosser44 wrote: »
    Trump repeatedly refusing to condemn white supremacy it the most chilling thing to come out of this debate

    The proud boys are 100% going to show up armed at the polls, and trump just gave them permission to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    Not a single time during that ****show did trump address the camera he was addressing wallace and Biden. Biden on numerous occasion looked straight down the camera addressing the american people.

    Apart from soundbites I do not remember any actual policy coming out of Trumps mouth.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The fact that the Proud Boys have "official" in their website URL says all you need to know about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭the immortals


    I would call that a draw, I thought Biden did well in some parts and trump in others, it was interesting to watch Biden when trump was speaking, he spent a lot of time looking downwards, that didn't look good, I thought when he addressed the camera it came across as fake, trump was his usual we're doing great and it's only going to get better, looking forward to the next one, it's fascinating to watch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭HDMI


    Biden done better than I expected, no major gaffes but at times looked like his anger was going to show through. I think Trump interrupting Biden allowed him to pull back, maybe he should have let Biden have more mike time.

    Neither done themselves any favors with condemning violent groups. Trump should have been clearer in his answer but Biden saying Antifa is an idea and not a group sounded silly and like a denial that it exists.

    Wasn't a fan of Chris Wallace as moderator he seemed unable to control either candidate.

    Final thoughts, no clear winner and it wouldn't surprise me if the next two debates are cancelled by Biden's team because they didn't like their candidate being interrupted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    I would call that a draw, I thought Biden did well in some parts and trump in others, it was interesting to watch Biden when trump was speaking, he spent a lot of time looking downwards, that didn't look good, I thought when he addressed the camera it came across as fake, trump was his usual we're doing great and it's only going to get better, looking forward to the next one, it's fascinating to watch

    100% agree it was fascinating.

    Something else I find fascinating is how people watching the same thing have completely differing feelings and opinions on the little things e.g. you felt Biden addressing the camera to be fake where I felt it showed a confidence around his belief and that he felt it was more important to get the message to the people who vote instead of the person opposite him. I felt he was trying to make a connection with the voters at home (he’s not trying to get trumps vote or wallaces but the american peoples votes)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    HDMI wrote: »
    Biden done better than I expected, no major gaffes but at times looked like his anger was going to show through. I think Trump interrupting Biden allowed him to pull back, maybe he should have let Biden have more mike time.

    Neither done themselves any favors with condemning violent groups. Trump should have been clearer in his answer but Biden saying Antifa is an idea and not a group sounded silly and like a denial that it exists.

    Wasn't a fan of Chris Wallace as moderator he seemed unable to control either candidate.

    Final thoughts, no clear winner and it wouldn't surprise me if the next two debates are cancelled by Biden's team because they didn't like their candidate being interrupted.

    He's right though, antifa isn't a group, and Biden bluntly said he didn't condone violence.

    Trump was very clear in his answer....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Tippex wrote: »
    100% agree it was fascinating.

    Something else I find fascinating is how people watching the same thing have completely differing feelings and opinions on the little things e.g. you felt Biden addressing the camera to be fake where I felt it showed a confidence around his belief and that he felt it was more important to get the message to the people who vote instead of the person opposite him. I felt he was trying to make a connection with the voters at home (he’s not trying to get trumps vote or wallaces but the american peoples votes)

    It's human nature in action, making eye contact is a sign of confidence, but in real life I find it creepy. I really felt like Biden talking down the camera worked, especially because trump seemed to be following an invisible fly around the room.


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