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New York Jets Thread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    Well that was awful. Only positives I could see were the Quinnen Williams finally showed up, Becton was solid and Sam didn't make any big mistakes. After that it was terrible everywhere else. Depressing stuff and hard to see how it will turn around with this roster and this head coach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Another awful performance, turns out we are ****e on both O and D this year.
    Gase is a clown, the Johnsons are clowns. Joe D isn't bulletproof either.

    The team is so boring to watch, severe lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball.

    Positive - Becton looks like he is a stud and a very good 2 sack game by Williams.

    The apathy I have watching this team the past few years. Close to watching Redzone instead of the Jets Gamepass feed for the remainder of the season.

    Such a ****ty franchise. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Clearly the owner is the issue. It's going on far too long for it to be anybody else..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Well that was awful. Only positives I could see were the Quinnen Williams finally showed up, Becton was solid and Sam didn't make any big mistakes. After that it was terrible everywhere else. Depressing stuff and hard to see how it will turn around with this roster and this head coach.

    Nail on the head, Q and Sam not looking bad was a relief after week 1, Becton looked class out there, wish he could have had more reps with Bosa really, for week 2 really impressive. Basically we're now playing the season for those 3, and maybe Perine/Davis to see what they've got.

    The offense wasn't a surprise, between gase and injuries and the roster in general, to be expected at this stage. The defense to roll over in the first half like that again is just pathetic, the number of missed tackles is insane, and they were effectively playing a full second string.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Clearly the owner is the issue. It's going on far too long for it to be anybody else..

    Owners are a big problem, a large part being that they don't give the GM full control. Let JD fire gase in the next few weeks and bring in his own guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Not much to cheer for this season, but Brian Baldinger is sharing a lot of man-love for Becton. https://twitter.com/i/status/1308447818328297473


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Not much to cheer for this season, but Brian Baldinger is sharing a lot of man-love for Becton. https://twitter.com/i/status/1308447818328297473

    Seen that earlier, nice to see something is going right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Not much to cheer for this season, but Brian Baldinger is sharing a lot of man-love for Becton. https://twitter.com/i/status/1308447818328297473

    It's a big thing to be getting right too, both tackles have gone from worrying to at least solid with some room to grow, if our centre was more stable we'd be in alright shape on the line. If Becton works out it's a bit hit for JD, there was a massive amount of doubt about Becton, it's the first 1st round pick that has required some thought in a while too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    At some stage the honeymoon period for Joe Douglas as GM will have to end. The majority of the criticism so far this season has been reserved for Gase but Douglas has to take some criticism for the state of the roster. The Jets have 4 WRs for tomorrow one of whom is injured and also they have 4 QBs on the roster tomorrow. Ignoring what many called a historically deep WR draft in order to take luxury picks like a 3rd string QB and a punter is starting to look like bad judgement. Then he compounded the mistake by not resigning Robbie Anderson. He may have improved Darnolds protection but he has also stunted his growth by not giving him adequate weapons.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    It's going to be very difficult for the Jets to resist a QB in the draft, especially as they will be picking high in all likelihood. The circumstances aren't there for Darnold to thrive, so it's difficult to see him making a strong enough case to hold onto his job in the Jets in the medium term.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    At some stage the honeymoon period for Joe Douglas as GM will have to end. The majority of the criticism so far this season has been reserved for Gase but Douglas has to take some criticism for the state of the roster. The Jets have 4 WRs for tomorrow one of whom is injured and also they have 4 QBs on the roster tomorrow. Ignoring what many called a historically deep WR draft in order to take luxury picks like a 3rd string QB and a punter is starting to look like bad judgement. Then he compounded the mistake by not resigning Robbie Anderson. He may have improved Darnolds protection but he has also stunted his growth by not giving him adequate weapons.


    100% agree on Joe D. He is getting away without much criticism at the moment because of Gase.

    A lot will depend on how Mims does when he comes back from injury but at the moment our WR situation is the worst in the league and that is Joe's fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭franglan


    What are people expecting today. Its grim isint it, Frank Gore is your lead back against currently a top 5 run defense. Horrible teams in the early games keeping it close, handicap for Jets game is double digits. I'm hoping for some miracle reaction to the nothingness of the first two games but with the limited 53 man squad currently (4 QBs - wow) a miracle might be expecting too much! Bad squad abysmal play calling gives you little chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Im not really worried about what the result is, just want to see the young guys play well. Its a sad state of affairs when thats all your hoping for after week 2:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    phatkev wrote: »
    Im not really worried about what the result is, just want to see the young guys play well. Its a sad state of affairs when thats all your hoping for after week 2:mad:

    No positives about today. Very hard to pick 1 Jet player who stood out. And Becton injured to cap it off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    No positives about today. Very hard to pick 1 Jet player who stood out. And Becton injured to cap it off!

    Yep sh1tshow all round


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  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭SupraSonic26


    Dolphins fan here, how long do ye think gase has left? he was terrible in miami so glad we got rid of him!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭letowski


    D9Male wrote: »
    It's going to be very difficult for the Jets to resist a QB in the draft, especially as they will be picking high in all likelihood. The circumstances aren't there for Darnold to thrive, so it's difficult to see him making a strong enough case to hold onto his job in the Jets in the medium term.

    Do ye think the Jets will look to trade him and draft Trevor Lawerence or Justin Fields? There would be alot of suitors out there, plenty of franchises with old QBs that would have to find a solution late first round picks.

    If ye do get the 1st overall pick in the 2021 draft, I can't see the Jets holding onto Darnold unfortunately. An opportunity to draft a prospect like Lawerence just doesn't come around often, maybe once a decade.

    I feel sorry for Darnold. I really liked him as a prospect when he came out of college, albeit prematurely. His situation reminds me of my own team, the Colts, when we put Luck in a bad situation.

    I think the Jets might keep Gase to ensure the 1st overall pick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Dolphins fan here, how long do ye think gase has left? he was terrible in miami so glad we got rid of him!

    Hopefully gone next Friday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    letowski wrote: »
    Do ye think the Jets will look to trade him and draft Trevor Lawerence or Justin Fields? There would be alot of suitors out there, plenty of franchises with old QBs that would have to find a solution late first round picks.

    If ye do get the 1st overall pick in the 2021 draft, I can't see the Jets holding onto Darnold unfortunately. An opportunity to draft a prospect like Lawerence just doesn't come around often, maybe once a decade.

    I feel sorry for Darnold. I really liked him as a prospect when he came out of college, albeit prematurely. His situation reminds me of my own team, the Colts, when we put Luck in a bad situation.

    I think the Jets might keep Gase to ensure the 1st overall pick.

    Yeah I think if they have the top pick they'll go QB and look to offload Darnold, as neither the GM or the current/new coach were on the roster when he was drafted.
    Like yourself I feel really bad for Darnold, he's been set up to fail since he arrived at the Jets. I still think with the right coaching he could be a top quality player, remember he's still one of the youngest QBs in the league. Hopefully he's another one of them players that has a post Gase second act


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    phatkev wrote: »
    Yeah I think if they have the top pick they'll go QB and look to offload Darnold, as neither the GM or the current/new coach were on the roster when he was drafted.
    Like yourself I feel really bad for Darnold, he's been set up to fail since he arrived at the Jets. I still think with the right coaching he could be a top quality player, remember he's still one of the youngest QBs in the league. Hopefully he's another one of them players that has a post Gase second act

    Why not hold on to him, and trade the pick, perhaps to later in the 1st round for some depth well...everywhere else. WR, LB, Safety. With a new quarterback whisperer coach who isn't the failure Gase has been, his 2d act might be as a Jet.

    I can see it, of course, it's more perpetual rebuild with this team. Not sure the consensus #1 is #1 in my book, but let's see how the season plays out, if much at all, in College.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Why not hold on to him, and trade the pick, perhaps to later in the 1st round for some depth well...everywhere else. WR, LB, Safety. With a new quarterback whisperer coach who isn't the failure Gase has been, his 2d act might be as a Jet.

    I can see it, of course, it's more perpetual rebuild with this team. Not sure the consensus #1 is #1 in my book, but let's see how the season plays out, if much at all, in College.

    Because I think the lure of have a QB on a 5 year rookie contract will outweigh keeping and paying Darnold, especially for a FO that didnt draft him


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    And also because he might not be any good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭letowski


    phatkev wrote: »
    Yeah I think if they have the top pick they'll go QB and look to offload Darnold, as neither the GM or the current/new coach were on the roster when he was drafted.
    Like yourself I feel really bad for Darnold, he's been set up to fail since he arrived at the Jets. I still think with the right coaching he could be a top quality player, remember he's still one of the youngest QBs in the league. Hopefully he's another one of them players that has a post Gase second act

    I'd expect Darnold should at least attract a 1st rounder if not more. So long as he doesn't fall off a cliff, which he shouldn't, he comes across as a diligent kid.

    The Jets have some other good pieces, they have a RB, LT, I liked Mims in the draft, Crowder and Hogan are solid WRs too. Williams, Mosely, Maye etc. in defense. The HC role next year is still an attractive job for a coach If Darnold is traded, the GM has 3 first round picks and 2 the following year. There is plenty of capital to build a good team if done correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Guffy


    phatkev wrote: »
    Because I think the lure of have a QB on a 5 year rookie contract will outweigh keeping and paying Darnold, especially for a FO that didnt draft him

    If that FO is there to make that decision then that's the first problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Guffy wrote: »
    If that FO is there to make that decision then that's the first problem

    I dont see the GM thats only been there a year going anywhere tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    letowski wrote: »
    I'd expect Darnold should at least attract a 1st rounder if not more. So long as he doesn't fall off a cliff, which he shouldn't, he comes across as a diligent kid.

    I dont a team would give up a 1st for him as it stands at the moment


  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭SupraSonic26


    phatkev wrote: »
    Hopefully gone next Friday!

    he isnt a leader terrible ply calling and players have no faith in him, watching him for miami i was like please get rid of this guy, son as tannehill left he gets the titans into playoffs shows how bad of a coach gase is!


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    Brett Rypien will be QB for the Broncos on Thursday night. This might dent the hopes of Jets fans for a loss and then firing of Gase. Not sure how much beating the Broncos with a 3rd string QB would prove but it would probably be enough to save Gase's job for the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    Ian Rappaport now reporting the Jets brass wont fire Gase because they feel it would be harmful to Darnold. It makes you wonder if they have even watched a game this season. Gase needs to go so Joe Douglas can properly evaluate Darnold. #gasefreedomwatch exists on Twitter every Sunday for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Ian Rappaport now reporting the Jets brass wont fire Gase because they feel it would be harmful to Darnold. It makes you wonder if they have even watched a game this season. Gase needs to go so Joe Douglas can properly evaluate Darnold. #gasefreedomwatch exists on Twitter every Sunday for a reason.

    We've been fairly tight on leaks in recent years, I'd take any stories either way as speculation only. I don't think anyone in their sane mind would use that as a reason to keep gase anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    They'll win handy tonight I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    eagle eye wrote: »
    They'll win handy tonight I think.

    I dont know, this team literally doesnt know their ar$e from there elbow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    phatkev wrote: »
    I dont know, this team literally doesnt know their ar$e from there elbow

    It's a tight call, they have some WR threats and a decent run game, we've got no pressure on defense lately and our corners are playing soft, it's a nice situation for rypien to come into. Going the other way we have hogan and herndon as our only receivers semi-capable of catching a ball, and gore to gain 2 yards every play... I've backed under 42points and Broncos -2.5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Crowder now expected to play does help a fair bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,934 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    phatkev wrote:
    I dont know, this team literally doesnt know their ar$e from there elbow
    They haven't been good in the backfield on defense to this point
    hots wrote:
    It's a tight call, they have some WR threats and a decent run game, we've got no pressure on defense lately and our corners are playing soft, it's a nice situation for rypien to come into. Going the other way we have hogan and herndon as our only receivers semi-capable of catching a ball, and gore to gain 2 yards every play... I've backed under 42points and Broncos -2.5.
    Broncos are more missing their starting, they haven't even decided if it's going to be Rypien or Driskel this week. Neither of them are up to much, so much so that they've added Blake Bottles to the roster, currently carrying four QB's.
    hots wrote:
    Crowder now expected to play does help a fair bit.

    That's a huge help and Berrios got time to gel with Darnold and has looked good for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Theres a real possibility of this team going 0-16, no excuse for not winning that game last night.

    The Becton situation is a joke as well, if the man is not fit enough to start he shouldnt be dressed, one of the reasons Gase's teams are historically injury prone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    phatkev wrote: »
    Theres a real possibility of this team going 0-16, no excuse for not winning that game last night.

    The Becton situation is a joke as well, if the man is not fit enough to start he shouldnt be dressed, one of the reasons Gase's teams are historically injury prone

    We won't get a better chance to win than that.

    And 100% Becton should have sat the game, poor guy was playing through serious pain at points. That O Line was down to our last players on the roster at one point I think with both Fant and Becton injured? Maybe one left spare, ridiculous.

    The game showed the difference in the two teams last night, their offensive weapons were night and day compared to ours, they were able to get separation and gave a debut QB windows to throw into (helped by our ****e outside coverage). On the other hand Sam is hitting guys in the hands or throwing into spaces where there's zero room for error because his receivers aren't getting separation and the play calling doesn't help either.

    We run so few routes coming across the middle, I'd love to see stats on it. The only one I remember from last night was a night completion to jeff smith early on.

    And the wheel route to Gore was a lovely highlight of Gase's mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    Seriously pissed off with the Jets not only for losing last night but also the failure to hold Gase accountable. I get that others deserve blame and lots of it but I despair for the future of the team if the Jets brass can't/won't figure out that this guy is not even a pale imitation of an NFL coach. Also my faith in the future is being severely tested by the performance of Joe Douglas. Next year it looks like the jets with need 1 QB 2/3 RB 2/3 WR 1/2 TE 2 OG 4/5 CB 2 OLB/EDGE 1 S. Don't care how much cap space you have this cant be done in 1 year. Some of these issues should have been addressed this year. And then they jeopardise the future of the one bright spot of this year by playing him injured!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Seriously pissed off with the Jets not only for losing last night but also the failure to hold Gase accountable. I get that others deserve blame and lots of it but I despair for the future of the team if the Jets brass can't/won't figure out that this guy is not even a pale imitation of an NFL coach. Also my faith in the future is being severely tested by the performance of Joe Douglas. Next year it looks like the jets with need 1 QB 2/3 RB 2/3 WR 1/2 TE 2 OG 4/5 CB 2 OLB/EDGE 1 S. Don't care how much cap space you have this cant be done in 1 year. Some of these issues should have been addressed this year. And then they jeopardise the future of the one bright spot of this year by playing him injured!

    I don't think this falls on Joe Douglas, he inherited a roster which had holes all over the place... he's taken on the OLine this year (when fit they've looked about middle of the road, from one of the worst last year) and had to deal with a defense losing adams and CJ, that already didn't have any CBs of note. At CB, he takes a couple of FA shots (whiff) and a draft shot (TBC). Safety he gets in a starter (McDougald seems fine) and drafts for the future (TBC). ILB he's been diddled by injuries and we're down to some absolute dross now. D line took care of itself.

    On offense, I don't think he could have done much more on O Line, GVR could be a whiff but I think he's on a cuttable contract, the rest are looking good, really surprised by Fant tbh. TE I don't think anyone saw Herndon turning to stone and then Griffin's contract is looking poor now after his injury regression. RB he couldn't do much more than drafting Perine, and people even questioned the point of that when we already had Bell in there. WR is a big issue, drafts Mims who immediately gets injured, I think if he's fit JD looks a lot better. We were ****e there before Robby left and he's failed to replace him in FA (all ****e) and the draft (Mims injury and then not drafting more). I think the draft was a big mistake to not pick up min 2 probably 3 receivers... the free agency I'd be more forgiving, there was very little available and the idea is that we're getting away from ****e large contracts which we're still hungover from.

    Overall, jury still out but he's doing ok imo. Some decisions definitely wrong (drafting QB Morgan was bizarre with WRs on the board and I like Mann but another spot to get a potential WR body). I think the draft is the biggest place to score him, and so far that's a net positive with some question marks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 528 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    hots wrote: »
    I don't think this falls on Joe Douglas, he inherited a roster which had holes all over the place... he's taken on the OLine this year (when fit they've looked about middle of the road, from one of the worst last year) and had to deal with a defense losing adams and CJ, that already didn't have any CBs of note. At CB, he takes a couple of FA shots (whiff) and a draft shot (TBC). Safety he gets in a starter (McDougald seems fine) and drafts for the future (TBC). ILB he's been diddled by injuries and we're down to some absolute dross now. D line took care of itself.

    On offense, I don't think he could have done much more on O Line, GVR could be a whiff but I think he's on a cuttable contract, the rest are looking good, really surprised by Fant tbh. TE I don't think anyone saw Herndon turning to stone and then Griffin's contract is looking poor now after his injury regression. RB he couldn't do much more than drafting Perine, and people even questioned the point of that when we already had Bell in there. WR is a big issue, drafts Mims who immediately gets injured, I think if he's fit JD looks a lot better. We were ****e there before Robby left and he's failed to replace him in FA (all ****e) and the draft (Mims injury and then not drafting more). I think the draft was a big mistake to not pick up min 2 probably 3 receivers... the free agency I'd be more forgiving, there was very little available and the idea is that we're getting away from ****e large contracts which we're still hungover from.

    Overall, jury still out but he's doing ok imo. Some decisions definitely wrong (drafting QB Morgan was bizarre with WRs on the board and I like Mann but another spot to get a potential WR body). I think the draft is the biggest place to score him, and so far that's a net positive with some question marks.

    Can't see how he can be classed as doing ok. As GM he is drafted a developmental QB to a team with no QB coach. He drafted a punter who kicks it the same distance as last year. He let Robbie Anderson go over $1 million. He signed 37 yr old Frank Gore who is blocking the progress of a running back he drafted himself. He wanted to trade for Kellen Ballage and eventually signed him. He might be good at the OL and even that remains to be seen as the Guard play hasn't been great so far. He could and should get better but this far I think is is getting far too little blame for what overall has been a poor performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    eagle eye wrote: »
    They'll win handy tonight I think.

    Well, that aged like milk.

    ---

    As a Broncos fan I honestly watched aghast at this game.

    Always had a soft spot for the Jets, but the last few years it has just been a horror show after horror show. I genuinely despair that Gase is still there. As if having to face him at Miami for 3 seasons wasn't enough of a heads up.

    Hopefully he's gone after the Cards see to ye next week.

    Poor Sam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Can't see how he can be classed as doing ok. As GM he is drafted a developmental QB to a team with no QB coach. He drafted a punter who kicks it the same distance as last year. He let Robbie Anderson go over $1 million. He signed 37 yr old Frank Gore who is blocking the progress of a running back he drafted himself. He wanted to trade for Kellen Ballage and eventually signed him. He might be good at the OL and even that remains to be seen as the Guard play hasn't been great so far. He could and should get better but this far I think is is getting far too little blame for what overall has been a poor performance.

    The QB pick was bizarre, mainly because we already had plenty on the books with white and flacco... the lack of coach is a hangover from the Gase hire, I doubt we make the same mistake in effectively having HC/OC/QB coach all being the same incompetent guy. Mann gets taken in the 6th, I'd have rathered Proche there but I don't think there's a guy available there that's taking meaningful snaps, it's not making much of a difference. Punter/Kicker picks always get viewed poorly but they happen every year. The Robbie one is strange, although from all reports he was asking for more from us that we didn't value him at and then when he hit FA he found that no one else did either, Robbie is looking good so far though, pleased he's got himself a proper coach getting him to run something other than purely vertcal routes. Gore for depth I don't see a problem with, same for ballbag, they're both temporary measures for the HC and different in style to Perine. I do have a massive issue with Perine not being given min 50% snaps once Bell went down but again that's Gase's hands; it's the only position where we have a rookie sitting behind zero talent for no reason. When it's very likely Bell is gone at the end of the year we should be seeing if there's any glimpses of potential in Perine, not watching Gore grind his nose off for 2 yards every play.

    Some minor positives to keep an eye out for over the next few weeks, Mims back fit soon, Bell back off IR soon and Zuniga too, bearing in mind we're getting very little edge pressure it'll be interesting to see if Zuniga gets used there much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    So we're definitely going to sign O'Brien right?:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    hots wrote: »
    So we're definitely going to sign O'Brien right?:o

    If Macaggnan was still in charge I would put my house on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Darnold officially out and 'week to week'

    I am actually indifferent to this.
    Last year I was upset when Darnold got mono, this year, 'meh'.
    Another season he won't complete fully. He is sneaky injury prone.

    I just hope Flacco doesn't scrape us some wins and take us out of the race for Trevor!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Moving on to 0-5 and another double digit loss and against a Cardinals team that didnt look all that great. Really was nothing positive to take from it outside of Crowders performance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Franklin Myers is showing promise in pass rushing situations.

    The roster certainly hasn't improved since Joe D came in. The O Line sans Becton looks a lot like last years O Line. They struggle to make short yardage downs.
    Pierre Désir is just awful. Draft picks obviously are too early to say. A lot hinges on what Mims is like (if he ever comes back from injury!)

    This off season is huge for Douglas. Will get input on the HC, possibly a new QB but he really needs to improve on his FA this time.

    The roster is a disgrace, that's not Darnold or Gase's fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    FreeOSCAR wrote: »
    This off season is huge for Douglas. Will get input on the HC, possibly a new QB but he really needs to improve on his FA this time.

    Agreed here anyway, it's probably the worst active roster I've ever seen at the moment, and in the off season not only is he going to need to rebuild an 0-16 team, but really an 0-16 team that have been totally blown out by every team they've played, regardless of how poor/mediocre they are.

    https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/82501/new-york-jets-2020-nfl-free-agent-signings-ot-george-fant-a-big-gamble

    If you look at the signings he /did/ make last year it's really only GVR and Desir that look poor in retrospect. Personally I think the line signings have been a big improvement when the line is fit, the worst line issues are showing when you're relying on Andrews and McDermott starting a serious volume of snaps, and then compounded by having no receivers getting open easily.


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    phatkev wrote: »
    Moving on to 0-5 and another double digit loss and against a Cardinals team that didnt look all that great. Really was nothing positive to take from it outside of Crowders performance

    Just watched the game in 40. No positives, some more scary negatives, we have no tight end option at all, really surprised by how poorly herndon has regressed. Our defense in both execution and play calling was awful the drake drive for the TD was embarrassingly easy. The special teams outside of the punter and kicker is just awful, got to be more poor coaching? I'd love to see a returns Vs returns allowed comparison, it feels like no matter where the punt/kick goes the othere team are always in a comfortable position to return for 10 yards+


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    Christ Hopkins matched up 1-1 with UDFA rookie Lamar Jackson..... give the poor kid some help for gods sake.


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