How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Looking for thoughts on the following

Whats app sent out to staff today about possibly taking all classes to the local farm shop the day of midterm. Obviously subject to there being no local lockdown in place. Each class will go at separate times to pick pumpkins. No thought given to the fact it will probably be indoors so children from 3rd to 6th are supposed to be socially distant. All classes are supposed to only be mixing with their own pods. Does anyone else think this is madness?

Id have to see the details. They will be outside for picking. Are they seated on the bus with the kids they sit with in class, will they be picking with the same kids. There are alot of questions but I wouldn't rule it out.

also in agreement its a lovely idea and very thoughtful

downthemiddle wrote: »

Now you are being a Silly Willy. It is not within teachers remit to close schools. Surely even someone who appears to know as little as you do about Irish education is aware of that.

So if asti call a strike, just how exactly would schools operate?

Scoondal wrote: »

The schools can remain open now but they had to stay closed in June ... why ?

Same answer as I gave you the last time, ask the government. We had no hand, act or part in closing the school buildings.

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Yes, and here in the UK, we have firmly established that covid is an extremely intelligent disease. Schools and businesses are safe but having more than six people in your house with social distancing it will magically appear, also pubs are safe but only before 10pm since it has now learned how to tell the time.

Just be glad that testing is available - it is nothing short of a sh*tshow here where we can't get tests for symptomatic students, no such things as masks for staff (for our school our head has actually said sod their advice and for us all to wear masks in corridors) and not a tap of social distancing for kids.

But it's alright, anyone in a school building is magically immune!

How are post primary/secondary schools doing in the UK? I'd imagine ye are a few weeks ahead of what's about to happen here.

Prime time just said that the average number of contacts for a school case is 30. That doesn't match with what I have heard from schools that I know of.

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

30 in the class? Aren't they barely contacting the students sitting adjacent from confirmed cases? At least that's what I've heard.

And if they say the class are all close contacts, what happens when all classes mingle at lunch with no masks, or the teachers and snas moving to new classes.

It doesn't tally with cases I know of. Entire class plus teacher not considered close contacts. 3 out of 4 in a pod(how one is left out I don't know).

Also they said that only sixty something percent bother turning up for the second test.

Teachers are being told that they are at risk only if they are less than 1 metre from an infected person for more than 2 consecutive hours. Everyone else is told 2 metres and 15 minutes. Is there some sort of special immunity for students and teachers in primary and post primary? Third level is pretty much all online now.

Schools are so important, not for the education, but for the baby sitting service for working parents and the perception of normality. It’s what makes the most sense. Otherwise the guidelines would be the same across the board and we wouldn’t be putting so many at risk.

teachinggal123 wrote: »

So, all the teachers posting and bickering on Boards are “all” off on leave or sick?

That sounds a bit like the crazy claim that “all” teachers were working as hard as possible during shutdown.

LOL

Will Yam wrote: »

It wasn’t.

Unless you define more sneering condescion from veteran educators as an answer.

Will Yam wrote: »

Have a look at a replay of the gen sec of Asti last night on tv saying that more money was part of their demands.

Will Yam wrote: »

The quote says “teachers continued working”.

Do you mean SOME teachers continued working?

Will Yam wrote: »

So if a teacher sent one email during lockdown this qualifies as “teachers working”?

Will Yam wrote: »

Any clarification as to whether your 200 is schools, or cases in schools?

Or neither?

Or both?

Or whatever you’re having yourself?

Will Yam wrote: »

If I were you I’d take such a statement as a compliment from an embittered “veteran educator”

Mod: @Will Yam - too much noise, not enough signal. Up your posting style to something of more substance rather that just one line soundbites.

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

It doesn't tally with cases I know of. Entire class plus teacher not considered close contacts. 3 out of 4 in a pod(how one is left out I don't know).

Also they said that only sixty something percent bother turning up for the second test.

Probably so they don't confirm school transmissions.

Can't report school transmission if there's no tests done.

...Ghost... wrote: »

Teachers are being told that they are at risk only if they are less than 1 metre from an infected person for more than 2 consecutive hours. Everyone else is told 2 metres and 15 minutes. Is there some sort of special immunity for students and teachers in primary and post primary? Third level is pretty much all online now.

Schools are so important, not for the education, but for the baby sitting service for working parents and the perception of normality. It’s what makes the most sense. Otherwise the guidelines would be the same across the board and we wouldn’t be putting so many at risk.

Thats what I dont understand.
Also a special ed teacher I know has pupils from lots of different classes.
Then they go back to their own classes.
And children with brothers and sisters, sometimes even in different schools go home and have close contact with each other and all back into their respective schools next day.
Then you have teachers with kids, wither in the same school or different schools all mixing in the evening and back to the different schools next day.
Now this seems like a recipee for disaster to me, and should have huge testing of teachers and students just because of the risk.
And yet schools get ignored at the press conferences.


Reporter : "Ronan, You wouldnt be able to tell us how the schools are getting on would you? Just some figures and trends, you know, just to put our minds at rest about schools."


Reporter : "Ronan, would the rise in cases have anything to do with schools? Have you dont any number crunching on it? If they havent, let us know. Go on Ronan."

My wife works in a creche, they are far worse, 3-4yos don't understand social distancing, parents need them minded and send them in sick. Creche workers are at more of a risk than teachers imho, along with the young 3-4yo children they educate

Thierry12 wrote:

Amount of homework mine get they might as well be called correcters

This virus really is highlighting many problems, and sadly, there will probably be little change after the fact

irishblessing wrote:

Does anyone here know of anyone who's in an utter blackspot from every provider? I don't know anyone, and I asked this in our AGM the other day, too. No one knew anyone who couldn't get wifi, and we are rural.

I do know of some areas that have very poor broadband, streaming would have issues regularly enough, with fairly regular complete loss of phone signal also, some around mountainous areas