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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    I really hate to break it to you but Cary Grant is dead....and when he was alive I am not sure he was an expert virologist...

    :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    We're really not all as clueless as each other here ACE.


    Sorry I forgot you showed us your degree in COVID-19 testing...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    :pac::pac:

    Your real name is not Woody79?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,545 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Wolf359f wrote:
    Leaving the positive element aside (hard to wrap my brain around that). In simpler to understand terms: if you test 10,000 sterile swabs, as theres zero covid RNA on it to replicate, you will get 10,000 negative results?
    Yes of course you should.

    But people arent sterile. We're hosts to millions of bacteria and viruses that can/may cause interference.

    People are also human, and when racks of identical small tubes are side by side theres always possibilities of things like cross contaminants or human error.

    There are safety procedures and checks in place to prevent all that but my point is, nothing will be 100% perfect every time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    She was on BBC Question time last week as well.
    The BBC have a nut job or two on everynight


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  • Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your real name is not Woody79?

    Exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,545 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Are you familiar with using the assay that the NVRL uses? If not then we're just as clueless as each other, to be fair.
    I think they use a Roche platform but im not sure. I think the poster mandrake might know.

    I wouldnt say im clueless, I do perform PCR as part of my job, although not for covid testing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭growleaves


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Yes of course you should.

    But people arent sterile. We're hosts to millions of bacteria and viruses that can/may cause interference.

    People are also human, and when racks of identical small tubes are side by side theres always possibilities of things like cross contaminants or human error.

    There are safety procedures and checks in place to prevent all that but my point is, nothing will be 100% perfect every time.

    I didn't want to mention cross continamation.
    But going by that, saying the false positive is based on all tests is incorrect so. It's based on the tests with a positive result.
    And which was already pointed out, a positive result can't distinguish if you're just over the infection or presymptomatic. So as you say, people should still isolate as they could still be infections or become infections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Are you familiar with using the assay that the NVRL uses? If not then we're just as clueless as each other, to be fair.

    As far as i know martina actually works in this field. Whats your qualification\experience outside of googling stuff?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭gipi



    I spotted 2 open clusters linked to public houses in the table on that tweet, there had been 5 closed clusters for a long time in the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Hope you mean Quinn, Higgins is a national treasure :D

    Yes thank you ;) edited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭bpb101


    Has anybody noticed rte have stopped their daily push notifications of cases?
    Or is it just me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    The BBC have a nut job or two on everynight

    The only chance Ryan would have of appearing on question time would be if he discovered a cure for Covid 19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,527 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Can you maybe actually comment on what you are posting rather than just posting random links constantly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Sorry I forgot you showed us your degree in COVID-19 testing...

    Really am baffled by the attitude you’ve grown in the last few weeks on here. Informative posting and really decent analysis of numbers has turned into absolute showmanship and downright rudeness to anyone who may have a different view.

    You’re telling posters to ignore people or “not bother” interacting because their views might be different or they hold them strongly. Sarcastically talking about degrees in testing after that poster said we’re not all equal in terms of knowledge, who was standing up for someone who does PCR testing as part of their job, and has been an absolute wealth of knowledge for those of us that don’t know about PCR testing.

    Plenty of assumed information, anecdotal information, second hand information - don’t get me wrong here, all valuable in their own right - posted by you here over the last couple of months. And yet, when anyone else does similar, you jump down their throats for doing the exact same.

    You can’t even wonder aloud here anymore about something unlikely but plausible without fear of being labelled a doom monger.

    Tonight you posted a link that was disputed by many, right or wrong, and you’ve fought and fought it, even when the expert weighs in you just dismiss it as “ah sure neither of us know what we’re talking about”.

    It’d be great to just have a discussion here tbh without all the extra attitude and snide comments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    bpb101 wrote: »
    Has anybody noticed rte have stopped their daily push notifications of cases?
    Or is it just me

    Same here - wonder is it deliberate or has someone forgot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    bpb101 wrote: »
    Has anybody noticed rte have stopped their daily push notifications of cases?
    Or is it just me

    I haven’t had them in the last few days, hoping they had stopped, but my wife is still getting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    petes wrote: »
    Who was off their head? Were you off your head watching it? She asked him to qualify an answer and he hadn't a notion what to say, looked like a deer in headlights. About time someone questioned these claims and it's certainly not going to be done by anyone in rte.

    Yes. She asked him about locking down a town ship in South Africa , out of the blue !
    No wonder he looked surprised:)
    I think even Miriam was startled !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Level 1 is fantasy. 2021.


    Level 3 I would say over 100 per 100,000 with a decent percentage of community transmission.


    Level 1 looks a fantasy alright, Sligo for example should be level 1 right now, had only 11 cases the last 2 weeks and no covid case in Sligo Hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Hahahaha so you only believe RTE and a certain group of experts but not an ICU doctor that is exactly working in the hospital.

    Makes perfect sense really since someone people can't be saved from their own ignorance.

    You do know that is not real don't you ?
    It is the Spanish version of Waterford Whispers :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    The question is:
    How many people who got a positive result were falsely told they were positve

    Answer e.g.: 0.8%
    So 0.8% of the people who got a positive result were false.

    Not 0.8% of every one who was tested.

    I think you are wrong based on this
    “Under one percent means that for all the positive cases the likelihood of one being a false positive is very small.” No, Health Secretary. The FPR is the percentage of all the people you’ve tested who are found, falsely, to be positive.


  • Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    Can you maybe actually comment on what you are posting rather than just posting random links constantly?

    It's obviously links you don't like.

    It seems all across Europe we maybe exaggerating level of actual covid cases in this second wave. Country after country seem to be admitting they maybe overcounting true cases. Made sense in the first wave but not when we are locking people down again with a possible material exaggeration of disease prevalent in an area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl



    Not 100, 000 tests per day surely , we should be so lucky :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    You do know that is not real don't you ?
    It is the Spanish version of Waterford Whispers :)

    Can you show me where you found this out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    BOOO !! Has the sky fallen down yet ?


  • Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Level 1 looks a fantasy alright, Sligo for example should be level 1 right now, had only 11 cases the last 2 weeks and no covid case in Sligo Hospital.

    Still an increase in a few months ago. Did they not go a month without a case. No county is at level 1. One county can easily infect another. All it takes is a case. Wasn't there a barber came back from Iraq and caused well over 20 cases in Sligo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    she was all rte could afford, probably just off the boat from India with fake papers

    There is no call for racism like this. Shame.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I think you are wrong based on this

    I think it’s wrong too. Based on this explanation using 80% sensitivity and 99.9% specificity as an example and an actual positivity rate of 0.1%
    in this scenario, 10,000 random people go for a Covid-19 test. With the infection level at 0.1 per cent, just ten people will have Sars-CoV-2 and 9,990 will not. Of the ten who turn up with an infection, 80 per cent will test positive, meaning eight people will be correctly identified while two walk away with a false negative.

    And of the 9,990 not infected, all but ten will be correctly diagnosed as negative: hence the success rate of 99.9 per cent (the specificity). But ten will be told they have Covid-19, when in fact they don’t. That leaves us with 18 positive tests: eight from people who genuinely had the virus and ten who did not. So only eight out of 18 (44 per cent) of the infections are real.
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-many-covid-diagnoses-are-false-positives-


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