Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

DangerScouse · 21-09-2020 10:26AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

It's hard to take him seriously, seems to just jump on the most popular bandwagon of the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_P2RmrA6U

That should have finished his career off but for some bizarre reason he's a regular in the media to this day.

crossman47 · 21-09-2020 10:26AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Can you explain how there were little to no cases in nursing homes for about 3 weeks after they finally banned visitors? How did it get in if there were no visitors?

Via staff - that's clear now.

Happydays2020 · 21-09-2020 10:26AM

Eod100 wrote: »

Some reports in UK media that Johnson will announce restrictions for UK tomorrow

Interesting that restrictions go down well with his base - usually when those restrictions are elsewhere particularly disadvantaged areas.

Roger_007 · 21-09-2020 10:26AM

Eod100 wrote: »

Some reports in UK media that Johnson will announce restrictions for UK tomorrow

That is the UK except Dominick Cummings.......I presume?

crossman47 · 21-09-2020 10:30AM

normanoffside wrote: »

What about the residents that Holohan sent back to the homes Covid Positive (without test) from Hospital in order to clear beds for the younger population?

How on earth can you say Holohan sent them back. Hes the CMO - he doesn't run hospitals or nursing homes.

Hurrache · 21-09-2020 10:36AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Look what ever your into yourself, I was there and that's what I noticed when the crowd dispersed, I've no reason to make up something like that. If you could kindly move along now it's yesterdays news and your just trolling now.

LOL, I'm trolling by serving up your own words back to you? I'm happy to move on, you've proven yourself to be a liar on numerous occasions.

Away With The Fairies · 21-09-2020 10:37AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

CDC have been busy.....
Finally.

https://twitter.com/albertoangelo17/status/1307922276986257410?s=21

How long will it take Ireland to make this news official so that we can make better plans like perhaps mandatory masks in all indoor public places. There's still factories operating without face masks and offices aren't included in the government's list of where to wear a mask.

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 10:40AM

Hurrache wrote: »

LOL, I'm trolling by serving up your own words back to you? I'm happy to move on, you've proven yourself to be a liar on numerous occasions.

Do it move on, I'm not lying stop trolling.

crossman47 · 21-09-2020 10:41AM

The Tipp county final was a great game yesterday but the scenes afterwards make me worry we won't see much more games this year. I know a first county means so much but fellas hugging, back slapping, etc as if social distancing doesn't matter at a match can only lead to problems.

sideswipe · 21-09-2020 10:44AM

Just caught a couple of minutes of NewsTalk with Pat Kenny and Luck O'Neill chatting while I was in a shop this morning. O'Neill said that only 1 in 5 people who test positive are actually infectious! That's a pretty significant claim.

jusvi2001 · 21-09-2020 10:46AM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

And it only took 5865 deaths to get them there. They're also about five weeks behind the rest of Europe in reaching a first trough, so cases may well hit a surge yet.

Many of them died with Covid not from Covid. they had underlying conditions as well. Look at the death rate in ireland during flu season. lot of the elderly people with underlying conditions wont survive even with a chest infection. unfortunately there is no accurate data to show death rate from covid.

Measures should be taken according to scientific evidence and data. Politicians often take decisions to save their government from backlash.

Lockdown not only crashing economy but affecting people with health conditions other than covid waiting for diagnosis , procedures, etc. mental health, depression , domestic abuse and list goes on...

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 10:47AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

How long will it take Ireland to make this news official so that we can make better plans like perhaps mandatory masks in all indoor public places. There's still factories operating without face masks and offices aren't included in the government's list of where to wear a mask.

Until when, a vaccine arrives, we need a certain amount of herd immunity even with a vaccine. Dragging this out for as long as possible doesn't seem like a correct strategy. There's certain people who need to protect themselves, that is on them. The rest of us should carry on as normal and get that immunity as quick as possible. We've made a mistake by not doing this while we had good weather.

Roger_007 · 21-09-2020 10:47AM

sideswipe wrote: »

Just caught a couple of minutes of NewsTalk with Pat Kenny and Luck O'Neill chatting while I was in a shop this morning. O'Neill said that only 1 in 5 people who test positive are actually infectious! That's a pretty significant claim.

How would he know that?............or is he just spoofing, as usual?

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 10:51AM

sideswipe wrote: »

Just caught a couple of minutes of NewsTalk with Pat Kenny and Luck O'Neill chatting while I was in a shop this morning. O'Neill said that only 1 in 5 people who test positive are actually infectious! That's a pretty significant claim.

Do we know what percentage of positive tests are symptomatic, Paul Reid said 8% of close contacts are found to have the virus but again I don't know what percent of that 8% are symptomatic.

1 in 5 seems very high, wonder where he's getting those figures.

Denny61 · 21-09-2020 10:52AM

sideswipe wrote: »

Just caught a couple of minutes of NewsTalk with Pat Kenny and Luck O'Neill chatting while I was in a shop this morning. O'Neill said that only 1 in 5 people who test positive are actually infectious! That's a pretty significant claim.

Yes but if you walk in to.a room with those 5 people..how are you to know which one in 5 is infectious ??.so it goes back to the manta that expect all to be infectious ..

theballz · 21-09-2020 10:54AM

Disaster in a creche a friend of mine uses.

One of the workers got results of test this morning. Tested positive and I believe the children were told not to come in today.

However, over the weekend with communions some of the families had visits (from 1 house hold) over the course of the day. Therefore all of them need to also self isolate whilst the family of the baby in the creche go for covid test today.

Cannot for the life of me see how Creches, schools and colleges are going to remain open

Away With The Fairies · 21-09-2020 10:59AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Until when, a vaccine arrives, we need a certain amount of herd immunity even with a vaccine. Dragging this out for as long as possible doesn't seem like a correct strategy. There's certain people who need to protect themselves, that is on them. The rest of us should carry on as normal and get that immunity as quick as possible. We've made a mistake by not doing this while we had good weather.

Double lung transplant in a young woman in her 20s.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/coronavirus-woman-double-lung-transplant-chicago/

We cannot let this spread.

Roger_007 · 21-09-2020 11:00AM

theballz wrote: »

Disaster in a creche a friend of mine uses.

One of the workers got results of test this morning. Tested positive and I believe the children were told not to come in today.

However, over the weekend with communions some of the families had visits (from 1 house hold) over the course of the day. Therefore all of them need to also self isolate whilst the family of the baby in the creche go for covid test today.

Cannot for the life of me see how Creches, schools and colleges are going to remain open

Disaster?

You mean like a plane crash or something?

B.A._Baracus · 21-09-2020 11:02AM

theballz wrote: »

Disaster in a creche a friend of mine uses.

One of the workers got results of test this morning. Tested positive and I believe the children were told not to come in today.

However, over the weekend with communions some of the families had visits (from 1 house hold) over the course of the day. Therefore all of them need to also self isolate whilst the family of the baby in the creche go for covid test today.

Cannot for the life of me see how Creches, schools and colleges are going to remain open

Yeah. It's crazy indeed.
I mean kids are going to be kids. They'll play and they won't really get the social distancing thing or washing hands etc. They're kids!

Maybe it's time to re-evaluate schools and creches.

What Username Guidelines · 21-09-2020 11:07AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Until when, a vaccine arrives, we need a certain amount of herd immunity even with a vaccine. Dragging this out for as long as possible doesn't seem like a correct strategy. There's certain people who need to protect themselves, that is on them. The rest of us should carry on as normal and get that immunity as quick as possible. We've made a mistake by not doing this while we had good weather.

Can you define who they are?

blade1 · 21-09-2020 11:07AM

England looking at 50'000 cases a day by 13th Oct if current trend continues.

podgeandrodge · 21-09-2020 11:07AM

I no longer know what to think. So surfaces fine, and masks will stop spread. But no spread when there were no masks albeit less people congregating obviously. Masks don't seem to have had much impact over the last 2 months, and I think they have removed the hygiene standards drummed into us back in March. That could be the problem.

What Username Guidelines · 21-09-2020 11:10AM

blade1 wrote: »

England looking at 50'000 cases a day by 13th Oct if current trend continues.

And we're looking at 2,000 in Dublin alone apparently. Has any country had such an incident rate? I'm not saying open her up, but what's this projection based on?

GooglePlus · 21-09-2020 11:10AM

English scientific aid to CMO acknowledging that antibodies fade over time and that roughly 8% of the UK have them but that their fading means they're not a guaranteed protection.

GooglePlus · 21-09-2020 11:11AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

And we're looking at 2,000 in Dublin alone apparently. Has any country had such an incident rate? I'm not saying open her up, but what's this projection based on?

I think it was a worse case scenario with a doubling every 7 days.

blade1 · 21-09-2020 11:12AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

And we're looking at 2,000 in Dublin alone apparently. Has any country had such an incident rate? I'm not saying open her up, but what's this projection based on?

The English one?
Doubling every 7 days.

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 11:12AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Can you define who they are?

High risk groups
The list of people in high risk groups includes people who:

are over 60 years of age
have a learning disability
have a lung condition that's not severe (such as asthma, COPD, emphysema or bronchitis)
have heart disease (such as heart failure)
have high blood pressure (hypertension)
have diabetes
have chronic kidney disease
have liver disease (such as hepatitis)
have a medical condition that can affect your breathing
have cancer
have clinically stable cystic fibrosis
have a weak immune system (immunosuppressed)
have cerebrovascular disease
have a condition affecting your brain or nerves (such as Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis, or cerebral palsy)
have a problem with your spleen or have had your spleen removed
have a condition that means you have a high risk of getting infections (such as HIV, lupus or scleroderma)
are taking medicine that can affect your immune system (such as low doses of steroids)
have obesity
are residents of nursing homes and other long-stay settings
are in specialist disability care and are over 50 years of age or have an underlying health problem.

Hurrache · 21-09-2020 11:14AM

So your advocating that responsibility only lies on those people? Moronic.

blade1 · 21-09-2020 11:14AM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I think it was a worse case scenario with a doubling every 7 days.

A worse case scenario would be spreading more then double.
Its going by the current scenario.

drunkmonkey · 21-09-2020 11:14AM

GooglePlus wrote: »

English scientific aid to CMO acknowledging that antibodies fade over time and that roughly 8% of the UK have them but that their fading means they're not a guaranteed protection.

That's the problem with the slow draw, vaccine will be pretty much useless without opening up as you'll end up in the same position.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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