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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    No deaths is great. How are hospitals looking today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Just how it works tho, no? If you’ve 6 cases one day they may have 3 contacts each which is 18 more. Repeat

    Your blatant defensiveness is hilarious.

    Beverly Hills, California



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    For clarity is there a recent breakdown of healthcare works testing possitive...if the got it at work or in the community, or at home?
    did their numbers start going up before we saw some of the other catagorys of people testing positive elsewhere?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Donegal has been having a rough time of it in the last week, are they still seeing the effects of the restaurant cluster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭Polar101


    We’re at about 260 cases a day at moment and the reproduction number is between 1.3 and 1.7,” he said.

    “If it’s 1.3 by October 14th we think there will be 400 cases a day. At 1.8 we get closer to 1,500 per day. If we get it below one it will tail away slowly but we’ll still be seeing about 150 cases by the 14th of October.”

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-274-more-cases-confirmed-but-second-wave-not-inevitable-1.4359585

    Some predictions for the next 4 weeks from dr Nolan. He also doesn't want to call this a second wave.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    fritzelly wrote: »
    274 cases
    no deaths

    Wow just when I thought there was some hope just 15 minutes later Another absolutely massive number comes in, probably creep over 300 soon. Backlogs or not, our 7 day average has doubled. I don't really get the 3 week restrictions either. By the time we see results it will be 3 weeks so another 2-3 weeks is nearly guaranteed on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,780 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Only other one is the Daily Mail. The Guardian and the BBC didn't think it important enough to report on. A third of deaths wrongly classified as COVID deaths isn't important it seems.

    "The Oxford study found people may have been included in the Covid-19 figures if doctors believed the virus might have exacerbated their condition"

    That's saying the ultimate cause of death was precipitated by covid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Jimi H


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Balancing act. Need to learn from past mistakes. Test, trace and isolation needs to be implementation at a more sophisticated level. Mass testing and quicker results would help alot. Proper protocol's implemented at airports. Education about Covid would help. Their is now a cohort of people believing in theories which seems to have grown from the first wave.
    Very difficult balancing act though. Professor Nolan said yesterday they’re only going back 48 hours to seek details of contacts of confirmed cases. He said this is to try and stop the virus spreading rather than find out who it was transmitted from. He said they don’t have the resources or time to go back further than 48 hours. While this is understandable, it doesn’t seem to me like a test and trace system that can keep this thing under control over a period of time. We’re essentially relying on international studies and the hope that a vaccine will become available sometime in 2021. Hard to see anything other than a start stop economy in the meantime. How they’ll keep the public on board is another question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    niallo27 wrote: »
    So reduce contacts and presume you have it until there is a vaccine. You realise how crazy that sounds.

    No presuming required, we take our cue from the published numbers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Wow just when I thought there was some hope just 15 minutes later Another absolutely massive number comes in, probably creep over 300 soon. Backlogs or not, our 7 day average has doubled. I don't really get the 3 week restrictions either. By the time we see results it will be 3 weeks so another 2-3 weeks is nearly guaranteed on that.

    Note 0 deaths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Golfgate wouldn't have helped.

    People said **** it after seeing our elected representatives in action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,776 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Wow just when I thought there was some hope just 15 minutes later Another absolutely massive number comes in, probably creep over 300 soon. Backlogs or not, our 7 day average has doubled. I don't really get the 3 week restrictions either. By the time we see results it will be 3 weeks so another 2-3 weeks is nearly guaranteed on that.

    Thats better.
    People dont like it when you do positive trolling.
    Once its negative it goes down much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Note 0 deaths

    It's the wrong way to look at it. You should count deaths by a time frame and not just singular days. Deaths happen around 6-10 weeks of having covid so 300 cases today doesn't mean there will be 6 deaths today. Look at Spain, 400 deaths, this virus hasn't weakened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭cyclops999


    Athlone town centre hotels crawling with Dubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    The might of the LVA, LVF is gone now and no harm either.

    They wanted MUP, wonder where that stands now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    Much more difficult to stomach this lockdown than the last one. At least the first time we had reason to hope that we were buying time to implement a test, trace and isolate system that would prevent future lockdowns.

    Even worse, Dublin is going to reopen in 5-6 weeks, this time likely at level 2, with schools fully open, pubs open and more indoor activity due to seasonal change. These conditions will probably shorten the time between this lockdown and the next one, as it has become plain as day that the state is not organisationally capable of implementing a suppression regime to avoid it. If we get any unexpected bad news on the vaccine front, the government will have no choice but to seriously consider an elimination strategy because 4 or 5 lockdowns will cripple the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Jimi H wrote: »
    Very difficult balancing act though. Professor Nolan said yesterday they’re only going back 48 hours to seek details of contacts of confirmed cases. He said this is to try and stop the virus spreading rather than find out who it was transmitted from. He said they don’t have the resources or time to go back further than 48 hours. While this is understandable, it doesn’t seem to me like a test and trace system that can keep this thing under control over a period of time. We’re essentially relying on international studies and the hope that a vaccine will become available sometime in 2021. Hard to see anything other than a start stop economy in the meantime. How they’ll keep the public on board is another question.

    It is yea and seems like it will a long term battle with this virus. The key will probably be how well a vaccine might work and how quickly it can be distributed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Deaths happen around 6-10 weeks...
    Link?
    I know the time will have increased with the increased testing, but that seems quite long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's the wrong way to look at it. You should count deaths by a time frame and not just singular days. Deaths happen around 6-10 weeks of having covid so 300 cases today doesn't mean there will be 6 deaths today. Look at Spain, 400 deaths, this virus hasn't weakened.

    There have been a few hundred deaths in Ireland from Covid since this whole thing began. In that time the economy has been destroyed, mental health wrecked, the human face covered up, towns and villages decimated, small businesses in dire straits, unemployment at 15%. And people are going on about a few cases, numbers which need to be taken with a gigantic pinch of salt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    wadacrack wrote: »
    It is yea and seems like it will a long term battle with this virus. The key will probably be how well a vaccine might work and how quickly it can be distributed.

    So much for a two week lockdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    spookwoman wrote: »
    charts
    I know I have thanked you before for these charts, but thank you again, as the change to the coloured ones is much easier to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    There have been a few hundred deaths in Ireland from Covid since this whole thing began. In that time the economy has been destroyed, mental health wrecked, the human face covered up, towns and villages decimated, small businesses in dire straits, unemployment at 15%. And people are going on about a few cases, numbers which need to be taken with a gigantic pinch of salt.

    You say a few hundred when it's less than a thousand. Stop downplaying death figures, we've had over 1700 deaths not a few hundred..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    You say a few hundred when it's less than a thousand. Stop downplaying death figures, we've had over 1700 deaths not a few hundred..

    A few hundred directly from COVID.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    There have been a few hundred deaths in Ireland from Covid since this whole thing began. In that time the economy has been destroyed, mental health wrecked, the human face covered up, towns and villages decimated, small businesses in dire straits, unemployment at 15%. And people are going on about a few cases, numbers which need to be taken with a gigantic pinch of salt.

    Well the top of the page says nearly 2000 deaths so I had to stop reading the rest of the nonsense you wrote after that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Well the top of the page says nearly 2000 deaths so I had to stop reading the rest of the nonsense you wrote after that

    Now that's funny , you accuse someone else of posting nonsense. Have you forgotten your own ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    A few hundred directly from COVID.

    :rolleyes: that veil dropped in record time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    :rolleyes: that veil dropped in record time.

    I did write 'from COVID' in my original post. 'from COVID' and 'directly as a result of COVID' are the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Now that's funny , you accuse someone else of posting nonsense. Have you forgotten your own ?
    It's just pots and kettles all the way down...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I did write 'from COVID' in my original post. 'from COVID' and 'directly as a result of COVID' are the same.

    We had 1200 more deaths between March and June than the average for that time in previous years, so your few hundred garbage doesn't add up. Where are you getting these figures?


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