2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

Overheal · 17-09-2020 06:11PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Tara Reade anyone?

*cough*

salmocab · 17-09-2020 06:26PM

Is holding out for the worst/best moment not a thing every politician the world over does? Bad news buried at a holiday Or released before elections is pretty standard I’d have thought. Just like Trump wants the vaccine before the election, I doubt anyone thinks he has humanitarian reasons for wanting that. Hilarys emails was certainly timed.

Overheal · 17-09-2020 06:27PM

On that note, 50% of Republicans even won't trust a vaccine if it is rushed out before the election: https://www.mediaite.com/news/whopping-59-percent-of-americans-would-distrust-covid-vaccine-released-before-election-including-half-of-republicans/

Even among those voting for Trump 39-44% of them state they wouldn't trust an october-surprise vaccine.

17-09-2020 08:42PM

Overheal wrote: »

On that note, 50% of Republicans even won't trust a vaccine if it is rushed out before the election: https://www.mediaite.com/news/whopping-59-percent-of-americans-would-distrust-covid-vaccine-released-before-election-including-half-of-republicans/

Even among those voting for Trump 39-44% of them state they wouldn't trust an october-surprise vaccine.

How many of them wouldn't trust a vaccine in any case?

Kidchameleon · 17-09-2020 09:20PM

I dont think anyone should trust any vaccine that is rushed out. How many years do these things normally take? Thalidomide springs to mind

Brian? · 17-09-2020 09:23PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I dont think anyone should trust any vaccine that is rushed out. How many years do these things normally take? Thalidomide springs to mind

Thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine. That’s a ridiculous comparison. Which I don’t believe “springs to mind” either. I’ve seen this same answer from multiple posters across boards. I imagine you’re all getting the same talking points from the same grifter.

Kidchameleon · 17-09-2020 09:27PM

Brian? wrote: »

Thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine. That’s a ridiculous comparison. Which I don’t believe “springs to mind” either. I’ve seen this same answer from multiple posters across boards. I imagine you’re all getting the same talking points from the same grifter.

Was not comparing them you know that. I was making a point that rushing to market can be dangerous. Everyone knows about the Thalidomide fiasco

ohnonotgmail · 17-09-2020 09:32PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Was not comparing them you know that. I was making a point that rushing to market can be dangerous. Everyone knows about the Thalidomide fiasco

the candidate you support would have no issue rushing a vaccine through. do you have any comment on that?

Kidchameleon · 17-09-2020 09:34PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the candidate you support would have no issue rushing a vaccine through. do you have any comment on that?

Its a bad idea IMHO. I certainly wouldnt be taking it.

salmocab · 17-09-2020 09:40PM

I would disagree with kid chameleon on nearly everything but he’s right rushing out a vaccine is a bad idea. I don’t think it will happen however.

salmocab · 17-09-2020 09:45PM

Brian? wrote: »

Thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine. That’s a ridiculous comparison. Which I don’t believe “springs to mind” either. I’ve seen this same answer from multiple posters across boards. I imagine you’re all getting the same talking points from the same grifter.

Thalidomide certainly came to mind for me, whilst it wasn’t a vaccine it was an improperly tested drug.

Overheal · 17-09-2020 09:49PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Was not comparing them you know that. I was making a point that rushing to market can be dangerous. Everyone knows about the Thalidomide fiasco

No I wasn’t familiar with this whatsoever

Kidchameleon · 17-09-2020 09:55PM

Overheal wrote: »

No I wasn’t familiar with this whatsoever

Its a facinating story, I recommend looking into it if you have time https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide. Check out some documentaries on YouTube also.

salmocab · 17-09-2020 09:59PM

Overheal wrote: »

No I wasn’t familiar with this whatsoever

It’s even mentioned in Billy Joel’s we didn’t start the fire.

Overheal · 17-09-2020 10:02PM

salmocab wrote: »

It’s even mentioned in Billy Joel’s we didn’t start the fire.

As far as music cognition goes I’m usually far more of a melody guy than the poetry, which tends to get phased out by me over the song aesthetics; just not a tragedy I was cognizant of sorry to say

extra gravy · 17-09-2020 10:23PM

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1306684848908754945?s=19

She says that at one point Trump asked whether COVID might be a good thing, because it meant he didn't have to shake hands with "those disgusting people" anymore. Just confirming the contempt he has for the American people.

Timberrrrrrrr · 17-09-2020 10:34PM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1306684848908754945?s=19

She says that at one point Trump asked whether COVID might be a good thing, because it meant he didn't have to shake hands with "those disgusting people" anymore. Just confirming the contempt he has for the American people.

I wonder what excuse the Trump zealots will have for this?

17-09-2020 11:15PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I wonder what excuse the Trump zealots will have for this?

Same ones as used for any other incident, unless they get inventive.

metaoblivia · 18-09-2020 12:02AM

Overheal wrote: »

No I wasn’t familiar with this whatsoever

That might because - and correct me if I'm wrong here - but you are American, like me, and this was one of the few instances where America got things right and never officially approved thalidomide for use in the US. Some samples were given out, but we didn't see nearly the number of devastating cases that some European countries saw.

Ah to have a functioning federal government again.

dwayneshintzy · 18-09-2020 01:47AM

Trump Announces 'Patriotic Education' Commission, A Largely Political Move

Absolutely awful stuff that will hopefully have no real effect whatsoever. There's little difference between a nonsense idea like this, and the CCP forcing patriotic education on Chinese children. They'll also claim with a completely straight face that their version of history is the "truth".

Overheal · 18-09-2020 03:38AM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Trump Announces 'Patriotic Education' Commission, A Largely Political Move

Absolutely awful stuff that will hopefully have no real effect whatsoever. There's little difference between a nonsense idea like this, and the CCP forcing patriotic education on Chinese children. They'll also claim with a completely straight face that their version of history is the "truth".

Because the right is losing their minds over the 1619 Project. There’s violent denial going on of our racist history.

Cody montana · 18-09-2020 08:01AM

“I'm not going to be a Democratic President. I'm going to be America's President.”
Biden

"So we’re down in this territory,"
"And that’s despite the fact that the blue states had had tremendous death rates. If you take the blue states out, we’re at a level that I don’t think anybody in the world would be at. We’re really at a very low level. But some of the states, they were blue states and blue state-managed."
Trump

Igotadose · 18-09-2020 08:44AM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1306684848908754945?s=19

She says that at one point Trump asked whether COVID might be a good thing, because it meant he didn't have to shake hands with "those disgusting people" anymore. Just confirming the contempt he has for the American people.

That is one very brave woman. I'm hoping to be wrong, but she should be prepared to go into hiding till after the election. The GOP will loose their maniacs after her.

As for how the zealots on Boards are reacting, the usual - Bill Kristol posted this! He's a Neocon! (not bothering to realize Kristol was linking to another site.) She's a Bush republican! (she voted for Trump, worked in his administration, etc etc.)

They have no defense, they'll be deflecting left and right. A day or two will go by and there'll be something else. Do we hear much about the Atlantic article from a fortnight ago? Nah. There's been way too much else to keep up with.

LessOutragePlz · 18-09-2020 08:47AM

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1306684848908754945?s=19

She says that at one point Trump asked whether COVID might be a good thing, because it meant he didn't have to shake hands with "those disgusting people" anymore. Just confirming the contempt he has for the American people.

I'm going to believe this man's version of the events rather than her version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f-PcTBFtHA

weisses · 18-09-2020 08:49AM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I'm going to believe this man's version of the events rather than her version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f-PcTBFtHA

Based on ??

LessOutragePlz · 18-09-2020 08:52AM

weisses wrote: »

Based on ??

Him saying that he's been to every Corona virus taskforce meeting and he's never heard the president say the those things that she claimed he has said.

ohnonotgmail · 18-09-2020 08:55AM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Him saying that he's been to every Corona virus taskforce meeting and he's never heard the president say the those things that she claimed he has said.

maybe he is lying?

Igotadose · 18-09-2020 08:58AM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Him saying that he's been to every Corona virus taskforce meeting and he's never heard the president say the those things that she claimed he has said.

Did she say the #IMPOTUS's odious blathering was made at Corona virus taskforce meeting? Even the #IMPOTUS might not be that stupid all the time.

And, you've got your evidence - someone stating something in public. What more do you need?

In related news, other members of the admin are bailing and stating bad things for the record about the #IMPOTUS. There's a group forming called "REPAIR"
of ex-Senior WH staff members offering to help clean up the mess once the #IMPOTUS and his failed administration are gone. Now, I think this is just swamp dwellers looking for a gig continuation, but I don't recall similar groups forming before previous elections. Do you?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/17/devos-aide-joins-anti-trump-group-417234

LessOutragePlz · 18-09-2020 09:01AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

maybe he is lying?

True and maybe she is lying so it's up to each individual person to decide who they are going to believe.

I think it's safe to say that Trump supporters are going to believe his version of the events rather than her version of them.

LessOutragePlz · 18-09-2020 09:04AM

Igotadose wrote: »

Did she say the #IMPOTUS's odious blathering was made at Corona virus taskforce meeting? Even the #IMPOTUS might not be that stupid all the time.

And, you've got your evidence - someone stating something in public. What more do you need?

I don't believe something just because it's said in public plenty of lies are told in public and behind closed doors.

2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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