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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #4532
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Stheno wrote: »
    Seriously?

    No one has been in my house since March 4th.
    In the past two weeks I've had 2 close contacts other than my partner with whom I live, and those were his children whom we met on separate days for lunch

    I was out once with four friends and visited a friend and my Mum once since July

    I thought most people were behaving like this?

    You thought wrong. I'm similar to yourself in regards taking precautions but many just don't care. Holidays to the costas, house parties, sitting in pubs all evening long etc...

    We have lost the battle and are in for a dark few months.


  • #4533
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,504 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Arghus wrote: »
    I would agree. Foreboding feeling to it all.

    I find Nolan to be always very measured, but there was no disguising how deeply concerned he was. People can say "ahh, he's always like that" - but, no: he isn't always like that.

    There was no disguising it this evening, the first sentence out of his mouth was

    "I haven't been this concerned since April".


  • #4534
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,693 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    0 restrictions in Belarus, no lockdowns, Taiwan isn't in europe.
    Considering they didn't scare the bejasus out of their citizens they deserve a medal.

    Belarus scares the hell out of its citizens fullstop ...nothing to do with the virus.
    Its case counts are as reliable as its election results.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #4535
    mr_edge_to_you
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    Yesterday was so confusing and tiring that Fergal Bowers had to take the day off today.


  • #4536
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    PowerToWait wrote: »
    Billly big balls. We are all vulnerable if the hospitals are swamped and you need medical attention for whatever reason. Do you really think that this state of affairs affects only those DIRECTLY affected? Are people really that fcucking stupid?

    Ha,ha.

    It has nothing to do with what I want. It's what's happening.


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  • #4537
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    Seriously?

    No one has been in my house since March 4th.
    In the past two weeks I've had 2 close contacts other than my partner with whom I live, and those were his children whom we met on separate days for lunch

    I was out once with four friends and visited a friend and my Mum once since July

    I thought most people were behaving like this?

    I live alone (with the cat as per my username!) and only had one closing contact in the week prior to getting ill (and testing negative) recently. A cousin I met in a hotel lobby for coffee when I was visiting Kilkenny city where he lives. We sat chatting at a table in a corner, armchairs well apart. I let him know the moment I was referred for testing and the late evening when I got the negative result.

    However I see quite a lot of middle aged women (like myself!) in my area in south Dublin suburbs, having a chat whilst sitting very close together in coffee shops. Talking (unmasked as they sip coffee) right into each others' faces, and clearly from different households as they exchange bits of news. I presume this kind of thing is happening on a wider scale, and contributing to the spread in the city.


  • #4538
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    There was no disguising it this evening, the first sentence out of his mouth was

    "I haven't been this concerned since April".

    Says it all lockdown is coming. Hurry up with it.


  • #4539
    Roots 2020
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Roots 2020


    Dublin to be upgraded to a class 3 relic..


  • #4540
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Roots 2020 wrote: »
    Dublin to be upgraded to a class 3 relic..

    I wouldn't be surprised if the Archbishop is brought in to give the briefings soon.


  • #4541
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    It’s the schools.

    Everything else was open for weeks/months before the schools returned and coincided with this awful spike. So it might not originate in the school but the virus doesn’t care, just looking for hosts from kids going home, coming back in and all contacts in between and so on.

    But you will hear blame placed on everyone else....don’t travel outside Dublin, don’t meet more than six. Etc.

    But you can travel to a Green country abroad, but make sure your travel at home is within your county boundaries. You can go for a pizza and a pint, but don’t have a few drinks with friends at home. Verboten.

    And send your kids into infection city five days a week and all will be grand

    We don't know if its entirely down to the schools but the government are certainly ignoring it. Stick 30 kids in a room everyday and they're saying that's not the issue? Its adults having too many contacts?

    Simply doesn't add up. How many asymptomatic kids are spreading it in schools which then spreads to households?

    Cases have utterly skyrocketed since schools have opened, and no other restrictions changed in that time.


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  • #4542
    Roots 2020
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Roots 2020


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    I wouldn't be surprised if the Archbishop is brought in to give the briefings soon.

    I was up in Dublin recently and I got a great buzz off it...


  • #4543
    [Deleted User]
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    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    0 restrictions in Belarus, no lockdowns, Taiwan isn't in europe.
    Considering they didn't scare the bejasus out of their citizens they deserve a medal.

    Life expectancy in Belarus is 8 years less than here. The vulnerable were already dead


  • #4544
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,136 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    3 cases of covid in two different schools in my town .


  • #4545
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Has the concept of “cocooning” been forgotten about now? Was that an idea from the previous government which the new government have decided against running with? It doesn’t seem to be mentioned at all now throughout any of the guideline. Or will that be reserved for when/if thing get really bad?


  • #4546
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Standby. We’re going to DEFCON 3 ...


  • #4547
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Roots 2020 wrote: »
    I was up in Dublin recently and I got a great buzz off it...

    As long as you only got a buzz, you’ll be grand.


  • #4548
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Standby. We’re going to DEFCON 3 ...

    But the pubs are still opening, yeah?


  • #4549
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Makes me sick to the stomach to see these people disregarded by some as expendable. :-(

    They are indeed precious and deserve to be protected.

    Some miser gimp said on the last page panic over, it only affects certain demographics the rest of us will be getting on with our lives. Heartless prick speaks for so very few.

    It's a bit grating to see everyone all worried about protecting the elderly now, they always needed protection, not going to see granny when one of the kids are sick is nothing new or exclusive to this year. Viruses are nothing new in hospitals, plenty die every year from them.
    I'm glad to see were finally upping our game when it comes to letting viruses spread wildly in health care settings, what happened in previous years is a scandal. The acting CMO even said he's went to work himself while sick the other day and was urging health care workers to stop doing it. Even after everything he still need to give that advice which initself is just wrong.

    We do need to get on with our lives and we do need to let the over 66's get on with theirs and trust them to take their own precautions as they always have.

    We went from were all in this together to were all potential mass murders, meanwhile granny is crying herself to sleep as her children won't bring the grandkids around. Heartless pricks on both sides of the protect the elderly debate.


  • #4550
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    New decision making structure. Un ****ing believable

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1306323747507507202?s=19


  • #4551
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Too many cooks.


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  • #4552
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    stockshares wrote: »
    New decision making structure. Un ****ing believable

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1306323747507507202?s=19

    Five days, five levels. Clear and concise.

    But slow.


  • #4553
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    It's a bit grating to see everyone all worried about protecting the elderly now, they always needed protection, not going to see granny when one of the kids are sick is nothing new or exclusive to this year. Viruses are nothing new in hospitals, plenty die every year from them.
    I'm glad to see were finally upping our game when it comes to letting viruses spread wildly in health care settings, what happened in previous years is a scandal. The acting CMO even said he's went to work himself while sick the other day and was urging health care workers to stop doing it. Even after everything he still need to give that advice which initself is just wrong.

    We do need to get on with our lives and we do need to let the over 66's get on with theirs and trust them to take their own precautions as they always have.

    We went from were all in this together to were all potential mass murders, meanwhile granny is crying herself to sleep as her children won't bring the grandkids around. Heartless pricks on both sides of the protect the elderly debate.

    Granny crying herself to sleep, christ it keeps getting better. Granny is not crying herself to sleep so stop with the emotive language because you don't like being able to do what you want to do.


  • #4554
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    There is a sense of foreboding from many posters tonight.

    But if Gov don’t take the hint from the press Conference well we are back to square one.

    Min for Health hasn’t been great at all so far. No clear messages anyway and should have been out of the starting blocks day one.

    I often wonder if there is a power play going on between Nphet and the Gov. shouldn’t matter. Do what is right for people and forget about egos. The majority know what to do and are doing it already, the problem lies with those who don’t care.


  • #4555
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Communion and confirmation parties were a bad idea.

    Letting all kids mix then schools starting back.at the same time.


  • #4556
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    It's a bit grating to see everyone all worried about protecting the elderly now, they always needed protection, not going to see granny when one of the kids are sick is nothing new or exclusive to this year. Viruses are nothing new in hospitals, plenty die every year from them.
    I'm glad to see were finally upping our game when it comes to letting viruses spread wildly in health care settings, what happened in previous years is a scandal. The acting CMO even said he's went to work himself while sick the other day and was urging health care workers to stop doing it. Even after everything he still need to give that advice which initself is just wrong.

    We do need to get on with our lives and we do need to let the over 66's get on with theirs and trust them to take their own precautions as they always have.

    We went from were all in this together to were all potential mass murders, meanwhile granny is crying herself to sleep as her children won't bring the grandkids around. Heartless pricks on both sides of the protect the elderly debate.

    The question is, what are you willing to do to protect those 679 lives that could be lost annually with covid (based on the death rate of the last 17 weeks)?

    That is what we are now looking at; 679 "with" covid deaths per year; we are living in a hyperbolic comedy sketch at the moment.


  • #4557
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    There is a sense of foreboding from many posters tonight.

    But if Gov don’t take the hint from the press Conference well we are back to square one.

    Min for Health hasn’t been great at all so far. No clear messages anyway and should have been out of the starting blocks day one.

    I often wonder if there is a power play going on between Nphet and the Gov. shouldn’t matter. Do what is right for people and forget about egos. The majority know what to do and are doing it already, the problem lies with those who don’t care.

    Personally wouldn't be surprised if its a case of trying to keep themselves in power. More freedom for people the more chance they think of keeping the votes


  • #4558
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,173 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    3 deaths and 254 cases

    136 are in Dublin, 20 in Donegal, 13 in Louth, 12 in Wicklow, 9 in Waterford, 7 in Carlow, 7 in Cork, 6 in Galway, 5 in Kerry, 5 in Wexford and the remaining 28 cases are located in Clare, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laois, Leitrim, Limerick, Longford, Mayo, Monaghan, Offaly, Roscommon and Westmeath

    24 community transmission

    What is happening in Cork and Kerry, increasing, is it schools?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #4559
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    AdamD wrote: »
    We don't know if its entirely down to the schools but the government are certainly ignoring it. Stick 30 kids in a room everyday and they're saying that's not the issue? Its adults having too many contacts?

    Simply doesn't add up. How many asymptomatic kids are spreading it in schools which then spreads to households?

    Cases have utterly skyrocketed since schools have opened, and no other restrictions changed in that time.

    Agree. It is the elephant in the room that is NEVER mentioned in dispatches as a possible vector. Wonder why that is, when it is obvious to many given the timing of the spike...reopening of schools + 14 days. F


  • #4560
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Granny crying herself to sleep, christ it keeps getting better. Granny is not crying herself to sleep so stop with the emotive language because you don't like being able to do what you want to do.

    Well my mother in law was, thinks the government are a shower of bastard's for what they've done to them.
    Look at all the posters that haven't visited their parents or brought the grankids over, won't let them hug them etc. It's wrong on so many levels. Were not protecting them were terrorising them.


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  • #4561
    New Era
    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭New Era


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    Your last paragraph is what I don't accept and the rest of your post is not a good enough reason to just accept it. It is not fair to criticise those that seek to "invoke language like "it's only older people that suffer from covid". This is our data; 93% of all deaths were over the age of 65, 78% over the age of 75 and 94% had clinical underlying conditions. This is in the context of the average life expectancy being between 80-84 in Ireland and with 75% of all cases coming in those under the age of 65. This data comes from https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/

    In addition, the language "Should face significant consequences and should be called out for such provocative language"; what sort of language is that other than provocative and hysterical language? This is a public discussion forum as you note which means data can get lost in opinion but your statement is completely OTT and detached from data.

    If you read that particular comment (I won't name the poster who posted it so not to give him or her any credit, when clearly they don't deserve any) and fair dues to Shinzon who reported it, then you know it was a grave and insensitive to portray and dismiss older people as if "ah well they are old and they are probably better off gone from this world"

    I have to say that as a son who saw my mother what she had to go through in her final stages of motor neurone, particularly since the start of covid, where she fought and fought getting a covid test at home, as she was too unwell to go to her nearby covid testing centre, while having to deal with none of her family and friends going to see her as she was cocooning. And do you know what, she still would have preferred to spend more time with her grandchildren that she cherished and loved, in spite of her pain that she was going through, rather than passing on.

    Data deals with numbers and all that. But no figures of numbers, percentages etc can ever explain what it means when you face the loss of a mother, father, son and daughter, close relative, a friend and so on. Death brings such upsetting and lonely memories. Do you honestly think that those people who have died from covid and their grieving families care about data and about being "another number" ?

    I think that there is a reality detachment here between those that still dismiss this virus with that far right protest last weekend in Dublin a prime example, and those that well know what a dangerous and contagious disease covid 19 is and what damage it has inflicted on families all throughout Ireland and the world.

    I sincerely hope that with all the warning signs are there and anyone watching the dept of health press briefing tonight, would be left in no doubt of what could happen in the coming days and weeks if people continue to dismiss and not take the drastic action that is required to contain covid. So as you imagine assetbacked I don't agree that I'm ott. I like yourself just want the best for the country and the paramount of protecting public health is top of the list.


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